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Old July 31st, 2011 #101
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Here's an example of something I really detest. It doesn't totally fit this thread, but I'm gonna jam it in there like a retard finishing a puzzle with a few pieces left over.

The city council in Sheboygan, Wisconsin wants to remove the mayor from office because he's a self-proclaimed alcoholic who recently went on a three-day bender during which he got into a fight and passed out at some schlubby tavern that, from pictures, looks just like how stale Cheese Doodles smell.

Sheboygan Mayor Bob Ryan says his lost weekend began on a Friday at dinner, and ended three days later. "I'm not proud of it," he says. "That's not me, but that's the alcoholic within me."


Fuck you, Bob. That IS you.

Again, I blame christ-insanity for this. The cult that claims it believes in free will, yet insists there is a distinction between the sinner and the sin.

Here's what I sez, and you can mark it down.

IF YOU DID IT, IT'S YOU.

And how much more so if you do it over and over and over again, eh Ryan?

Another modern thing, people generously offering us access to their interior like they're some kind of walking Disneyland. We are invited inside to watch their inner boxing match, their inner artistic torment. Pathetic, itz.

"I went on a three-day bender. If you don't like it, don't vote for me. Is Sheboygan in the black? Then what are you bitching about? The city park's still open. The carp lagoon is well stocked. You've still got a fair chance to get your Friday night supper on. Now get out of here, I've got some Amstel heavies to kill."

http://gawker.com/5826246/mayor-wont...-public-bender

I seriously doubt that, in the entire history of Sheboygan, a single thing has happened so important it required sobriety to deal with.

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Old July 31st, 2011 #102
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Old July 31st, 2011 #103
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[Funny comment from someone elsewhere..]

As an aside, I always love it when people offer the phrase "I find it difficult to believe..." as if it had some sort of probative value in a discussion. Yes, of course, reality organizes itself around whatever you find easiest to grasp.
 
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Apparently, kinder was not satisfied by the ass beating that he received in his asinine attempt to claim that Martians, Atlantians, and Solutreans built the ancient structures of America before vanishing into thin air, and he will therefore receive another ass beating here, in line with his own desires.

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'Fascist' as used by you and every other leftist has no meaning beyond you-don't-like-it.
Not at all true. If you actually looked on RevLeft instead of making unsupported assertions regarding leftist beliefs, for example, you'd see that to be untrue. As I've stated, fascism, bluntly summarized, is the combination of extremely authoritarian state and corporate capitalist power, with jingoistic/chauvinistic features such as racism and nationalism typically being characteristics of the fascist regime. To consider the elements of fascist political and cultural ideology and economy, we might look at Umberto Eco's conception of "Eternal Fascism," or Zanden's Pareto and Fascism Reconsidered (thanks, Reiver), which provide important insights.

As Zanden puts it, "obedience, discipline, faith and a religious belief in the cardinal tenets of the Fascist creed are put forth as the supreme values of a perfect Fascist. Individual thinking along creative lines is discouraged. What is wanted is not brains, daring ideas, or speculative faculties, but character pressed in the mold of Fascism." Eco agrees, writing that, "there can be no advancement of learning. Truth already has been spelled out once and for all, and we can only keep interpreting its obscure message." Fascism also has a necessarily anti-democratic nature because its class structure emphasizes elitism, and the natural arrangement of a select few governing the masses for their own good. As Zanden notes, "the mass of men is created to be governed and not to govern; is created to be led and not to lead, and is created, finally, to be slaves and not masters: slaves of their animal instincts, their physiological needs, their emotions, and their passions." Similarly, Eco writes that "the Leader, knowing his power was not delegated to him democratically but was conquered by force, also knows that his force is based upon the weakness of the masses; they are so weak as to need and deserve a ruler."

Fascism is based on populist rhetoric, however, very clearly exhibited in the radio broadcasts of Depression-era pro-fascist demagogue Father Charles Coughlin. That might even include appeals to socialist and syndicalist ideology (along with plain appeals to democracy and liberty, ironically enough), so as to entice the working class, though I wouldn't expect that particular sort of rhetoric to manifest itself in the U.S. Regardless, however, the economic structure of the most significant fascist regime to ever exist remained decidedly capitalist. We can consult Buccheim and Scherner's The Role of Private Property in the Nazi Economy: The Case of Industry:

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Private property in the industry of the Third Reich is often considered a mere nominal provision without much substance. However, that is not correct, because firms, despite the rationing and licensing activities of the state, still had ample scope to devise their own production and profiles. Even regarding war-related projects, freedom of contract was generally respected; instead of using power, the state offered firms a number of contract options to choose from. There were several motives behind this attitude of the regime, among them the conviction that private property provided important incentives for increasing efficiency.
Rationing and licensing activities are carried out by state bodies in every capitalist economy, since "free market" capitalism is a utopian abstraction with no history of existence. The fascist economy is thus fundamentally capitalist, and I wouldn't expect deviation from that, in light of the necessity of elitism in fascist society.

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I, for one, have been consistently against centralized state power, which means it is impossible for me to be a fascist if the world has any actual meaning it can't be untethered from.
Obviously, you haven't legitimately been against centralized state power; you've been opposed to the consequences of presently existing state power, which you (incorrectly) perceive as providing support for ethnic minorities. The role of the state in the capitalist economy is actually to sustain the physical efficiency of the working class, and preserve their role as manual laborers. Yet, since your delusions of ethnic cleansing will require authoritarian hierarchical force on the part of a vanguard to carry out, that constitutes support of centralized state power.

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Neither do you pay the slightest attention to the fact that none of us here support the "White Man's Burden," as the people of those times referred to it. We, most of us, are not christians, and don't give a fig about leading you little brown people out of savagery into civilization - we don't think you're capable of it.
LOL! You speak of euros "leading" others of other continents "out of savagery into civilization." The great civilizations of the ancient world arose in Sumer, Babylonia, Mesopotamia, Egypt, China, India, and of course, Mesoamerica. For millenniums, the ostensibly biologically inferior people of these lands produced social and technological advancements that the population of Europe lacked, and even when the classical civilizations of Greece and Rome came to be, the Germanic and Celtic peoples of the north were often engaged in the nomadic tribalism that you claim is a sign of biological inferiority in other peoples.

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That was a mistake made by our christ-cranked forebears, and we certainly will not repeat it. We demand our own nations, entirely free of your muddy presence, and that is what we will have, sooner or later.
Your demands are inconsequential inasmuch as they conflict with ours, as euros are the parasitic cancer of the world, scarcely able to even merit the description of humans, and will have "their own nations," but as livestock are enclosed in their pens. After the repatriation occurs, measures will be taken to extract reparations from Europe, followed by a permanent confinement of its inhabitants.

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What we or you or anyone thinks about genetics is interesting or boring but in any case irrelevant. By no rational description is what we here at VNNF want today in 2011 any faintest relation to any ruling class ideology of old. The only similarity is that the oldsters, like we today, respect physical anthropology and genuine racial science - IQ measurements and such.
As I correctly stated, the fascists of today rely on the same pseudo-scientific dogma of the fascists of yesterday. The difference, aside from the modern irrelevance of such beliefs, is that a vast literature of social science, biology, and genetics has accumulated against that same dogma, which its proponents (such as you), condemn with logical fallacies, because you cannot actually comprehend the empirical method that produced its results. When asked to provide a detailed methodological refutation of some of these studies in question, you are never able to, because as a religious fundamentalist, you lack the intelligence and understanding of the scientific method.

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What's consistent is your refusal to accept our position for what it actually is, and your insistence that we be something we are not. Our position is this: race and races exist; and the differences between races matter politically. There's no mention of anything related to determinism, genetic or otherwise.
Obviously, "races," in the sense of branches of a phylogenetic tree, or defined as clades or clines, do not exist, not only because of the arbitrary nature of drawing meaningful divisions within the phylogenetic tree (since genomic diversity is a continuum rather than sharply segmented), but also because the various branches have admixed since time immemorial. The modern populations that you fallaciously define as "races" are themselves produced of admixture from previously existing populations themselves defined as "races," as described in Jack Forbes's The Mestizo Concept: A Product of European Imperialism:

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Racially, the modern Spaniard probably carries relatively few indigenous genes, the latter having been greatly overwhelmed by Carthaginian, Celtic, Latin-Roman, Germanic, Arab, Moorish, Berber, Jewish, black African, and Gitano intermixture.

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The same kind of analysis can be made about England, Scotland, Russia, and a number of other nations. The English are clearly mestizos- a mixture of Celtic (and pre-Celtic), Angle, Saxon, Danish, Norman-French, Flemish, and other descent. Likewise, English cultures highly mixed (for example, half of the words in these-called English language are of Latin origin, the English practice a “foreign” religion- Christianity-and the great bulk of contemporary English characteristics are of foreign origin- including even tea drinking!) It is safe to say that the modern Englishman has very little in common with the Britons and pre-Roman times or even with the Anglo-Saxons before Christianity.

The Scots are, of course, a mixture of Pictish, Gaelic (Scottish), Norse, Norman-French, Flemish, English (Anglic), Saxon, and other stocks. Culturally, little remains (except for a few place names) from the indigenous Picts. Even the culture of the invading Scots (coming from Ireland) had been eroded to such an extent that the Scottish language is spoken only in a few remote regions and is officially ignored by the government. Except for some “colorful” Highland characteristics here is little left of purely Celtic origin, although many Celtic, Germanic, and Latin traits have mixed together to produce modern Scottish culture.

The Russians continue to speak their native Slavic language, but their culture is extremely mixed (showing Greek, Turkish, Mongol, and German influences). Racially the Russians have absorbed large quantities of Finish, Kahzar, Turkic, Mongol, Greek and other alien ancestry.

Interestingly, the English, Scots, and Russians (like the Spanish) are never categorized as mestizos. Seldom does one ever ask a Scotsman if he is part Norman-French, nor indeed, does anyone ever ask a Scotsman if he has even a drop of Celtic (Pictish-Scottish) blood. Such questions are seemingly only asked of knocked-down, conquered, colonized, and powerless peoples.
Consistency is not your strong point.

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It's a real world fact that races only mix under coercion, except around the edges, and that the vast majority of whites prefers to live around other whites.
Obviously, neither of those "facts" is true, as the defining point of the modern world is the actual fact that euros ventured without invitation or welcome to every other inhabited continent and admixture with the inhabitants of those continents occurred.

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That's what our politics is based on. You continually try to construe rough racial groupings as though they're atomic particles. It doesn't work. It's you who refuses, yes, refuses, to see our politics for what it is, and insists it be something imaginary and inconsistent.
Fascism is in many regards mutated and extremist conservatism. The intensification of fascist measures is created by crisis, either legitimate or false-flag, such as the Reichstag Fire and the commencement of WWII in the case of Nazi Germany. The racist element of fascism comes through the association of crisis with certain ethnic groups and often, usage of genetic determinism to attack them.

We can empirically determine the effects of crisis associated with an ethnic group through consultation of Effects of terrorism on attitudes and ideological orientation: "A quasi-experimental study on the effects of terrorism on racial prejudice and ideological orientation is presented. Two independent samples were contacted before and after the Islamic terrorist attacks against railways in Madrid (11 March 2004). Anti-Arab and anti-Semite prejudices, authoritarianism and ideological orientations (liberal against conservative) were evaluated. Results showed that those terrorist attacks provoked changes in a reactionary and conservative direction: stronger prejudices not only against the target group (Arabs), but against another uninvolved group (Jewish); an increase in authoritarianism; stronger attachment to traditional conservative values, and a reduction in the attachment to liberal values."

That there is a scalar relationship between moderate and severe crisis and commensurate moderate and severe response in terms of negative ethnic discrimination is supported by a mainstream pundit's linkage of the two in advocacy of such negative ethnic discrimination, namely Michelle Malkin's
In Defense of Internment: The Case for Racial Profiling in World War II and the War on Terror In Defense of Internment: The Case for Racial Profiling in World War II and the War on Terror
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The book features this product description: "The author of Invasion argues that the internment of ethnic Japanese during World War II was the result of real national security concerns, just as the Bush administration's moves to interrogate, track, and deport suspected terrorists is moderate and restrained."

That there is a precedent for U.S. citizens perceived as associated with a hostile foreign ethnic group that functions as a treasonous or seditious fifth column is indicated by this wartime Los Angeles Times editorial: "A viper is nonetheless a viper wherever the egg is hatched...So, a Japanese American born of Japanese parents, nurtured upon Japanese traditions, living in a transplanted Japanese atmosphere...notwithstanding his nominal brand of accidental citizenship almost inevitably and with the rarest exceptions grows up to be a Japanese, and not an American...Thus, while it might cause injustice to a few to treat them all as potential enemies, I cannot escape the conclusion... that such treatment...should be accorded to each and all of them while we are at war with their race."

So your program is one of American or euro fascism bolstered by colonial-era propaganda.

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And of course, you chip in your usual inability to conceive that a single anomaly doesn't destroy a valid generalization based on thousands pattern-producing examples.
The "anomalies" that I refer to (i.e. successful black Caribbean islands, Mexican crime correlating with euro admixture, historic Argentine crime), are themselves general trends based on large data sets, not individual anecdotes, which could accurately be defined as exceptions to a rule.

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Silly reductionism. The colonialists weren't thick in the way you present them. It is you who dumps reality that contradicts ideology. The ruling class is whatever you say it is. So are colonialists. So are white nationalists. They're stock figures in the judeo-left's devil's pantheon, not actual creatures who act in history.
Colonialists developed their propaganda in accordance with their current desires and intentions regarding the indigenous people that they subjugated, principally due to the aid of communicable disease.

As James Loewen writes in Lies My Teachers Told Me of Columbus himself, "When Columbus was selling Queen Isabella on the wonders of the Americas, the Indians were 'well built' and 'of quick intelligence.' 'They have very good customs,' he wrote, 'and the king maintains a very marvelous state, of a style so orderly that it is a pleasure to see it, and they have good memories and they wish to see everything and ask what it is and for what it is used.' Later, when Columbus was justifying his wars and his enslavement of the Natives, they became 'cruel' and 'stupid,' 'a people warlike and numerous, whose customs and religion are very different from ours.'...Columbus gives us the first recorded example of cognitive dissonance in the Americas, for although the Natives may have changed from hospitable to angry, they could hardly have evolved from intelligent to stupid so quickly. The change had to be in Columbus."

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Jews are a racial hybrid - inbreds culturally and genetically a race unto themselves.
There's no such thing as the "Jewish race." Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews tend to cluster with euros, or at a position somewhat closer to Middle Eastern populations than most other euros, whereas other Jews tend to cluster with neighboring populations.

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It doesn't matter than they have genetic similarity of some degree to certain subsets of Mediterranean white
Then your genetic determinism "doesn't matter" either, as many wops not only have a closer FST distance to euro Jews than they do to northern euro populations; they indeed have a closer distance to Palestinians than to those northern populations.

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jews are distinctly hostile to Europeans, their race and culture - according to both us AND them.
There is no euro "race or culture." There were formerly thousands of communities that became hundreds of city-states, that are still heterogenous and diverse nation-states with dispossessed ethnic minorities within them, that have substantial differences in language, religion, and all the other characteristics of a meaningful ethnic group.

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Again, your non-argument is simply another example of your false belief that a single counter example disproves a valid generalization. Race is rough around the edges is all your pseudo-argument reduces to. You're trying to turn that commonplace into the common lie that the White race does not exist to serve your vile anti-White agenda. But it does exist.
Cite peer-reviewed genomic research that illustrates that there is a greater FST distance between all euros and all other populations than there is between euros themselves. The greatest degree of diversity occurs within so-called "races."

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It's not an association, and it's not socialism. Marx was the original pseudo-scientific socialist, the creator of the system that created the worst horrors mankind has ever seen. He was dead by that point, but it was other jews just like him who boosted his ideas an put them into actual practice on the bodies of hundreds of millions of innocent Europeans. Jews aren't associated with communism, they are communism - per the quote from rabbi Wise.
LOL! "Hundreds of millions"? I thought the usual "Black Book" count was 100 million, most of that in China. I guess, apart from wishing numbers out of existence (American and Jewish Holocausts), you can wish them into existence at your leisure too.

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The problem with SE European immigrants wasn't racial but cultural;
This is the Big Lie produced by the Judeo-communist multicult public schools and mass media, and fed to the gullible WASP goyim. Race exists. You can't define guineas out of existence.

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as soon as these groups met the, let's say, Anglo minimal for public interaction, they were more or less tolerated and accepted.

To the extent they were acting like monkeys or following the jewish criminal scum into communist conspiracy, they were detested just as the radical jews were. The science of IQ and genes was not wholly worked out back then, so much of what was written was guesswork to account for the gap between what was observed and what was factually demonstrated beyond doubt to be the cause of any particular deficiency or peculiarity in a given immigrant group.
The bigots of that day had exactly the same scientific justification for negative discrimination against this social underclass of euro immigrants on the grounds of genetic determinism that the modern bigots do, which is to say none. They had no evidence; they had pseudo-scientific methods based on phrenology and similar charlatan techniques, just as you do today.

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Not at all. Our thing is based on the commonsense notion that groups that don't get along shouldn't be forced together. And that means any groups - men, women, young, old, ethnicities and races. Yet again, your peculiar cataract obstructs your vision: the fact that ethnic tension exists within the white is used by you to invalidate far grosser and more dangerous racial divides and murderous incompatibility.
It's your subjective perception that those "ethnic tensions" are smaller, yet I would wager that many Saami and Basques would find more commonalities with Native Americans than they would with their colonialist neighbors. And moreover, your own cataract is one of extreme inconsistency; you define a small ethnic population with very great genomic similarity to many euros as a greater and more fundamental threat than populations with considerably more distance from euros, thereby confirming your own belief that so-called "anti-white" threat is not necessarily commensurate to genomic distance from euros.

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Really? I would have guessed it was the noise that gurgles out of a roadrunner crushed by a Toyota Tundra.

But seriously, it's cute that yet another white man took the trouble to turn the babble of stick-igloo dwellers into something vaguely reproducible on a computer keyboard. I'm sure you'll thank and credit him.
I'm sure you'll thank and credit southern euro civilization as superior to that of northern euro civilization, in that case, since the West Germanic language that you are typing in is being reproduced in the Latin alphabet. Can you reproduce it in the West Germanic alphabet?

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Yeah...about as sure as I am the jews will credit the christians with curing all those other diseases.
The most significant euro contribution to medicine in ancient times was that of Galen, certainly not a Christian. For the centuries of euro Dark Ages, the only light in the darkness was the Berber occupation of Iberia and the advancement produced by the Islamic Golden Age, and the likes of physicians such as Al-Zahrawi. Throughout the Dark Ages, Europe remained vastly inferior in science and medicine.

After the interlopers devastated America through their transmission of diseases, which they believed were divine plagues, the precious metals that they converted into bullion and cultivated crops that they harvested in Europe produced research and development as well as population increases that eventually brought about western euro advancements in the Scientific Revolution, Enlightenment, and eventual discovery of antibiotics. It's something that would have been accomplished by any other population in their place.

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I like what I like, but I like to write about what I don't like. I don't do heartstrings, nostalgia, love, or any of the other stuff that most do. Figuring out what's wrong is what interests me. I throw in personal anecdotes from time to time, where they are relevant. I make no more of them than is in them. You ought to concern yourself with your inability to grasp the simple fact that a statistical anecdote does not refute a profusely-exampled generalization.
A conclusion reached through empirical analysis of a large data set is not an anecdote, but analysis of an aggregation of anecdotes, and a sufficient basis for developing cautious inferences if reached by multiple researchers using peer-reviewed methods.

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But of course that's nothing more than what the great Twain said about the redskin's racial character. Since you keep harping, I will too: why do you ignore what the great man said, at length and repeatedly, for what the man of no particular note said once and fleetingly? How is that not being selective and prejudicial and partial and bigoted and all the other charges you level against me? Your description of me doesn't fit me but it sure does fit you.
Was Samuel Clemens a member of a wartime expedition to capture the most famous guerrilla warrior that the United States has ever known? Did he eat, sleep, and travel amongst Apaches? Has it occurred to you that there might be a difference between Chiricahuas and an unrelated tribe in an unrelated cultural area, even if his observations were spot-on?

Is this the same man who said this of the Philippines? "The enemy numbered 600 - including women and children - and we abolished them utterly, leaving not even a baby alive to cry for its dead mother. This is incomparably the greatest victory that was ever achieved by the Christian soldiers of the United States."

Is this the same man who said, "Who are the oppressors? The few: the King, the capitalist, and a handful of other overseers and superintendents. Who are the oppressed? The many: the nations of the earth; the valuable personages; the workers; they that make the bread that the soft-handed and idle eat."

This member of the Anti-Imperialist League who wrote King Leopold's Soliloquy is the man you're attempting to appropriate into your fascist movement, because of colonialist claims he made in his early life, as opposed to the mature anti-colonialist thought of his later life?

Moreover, if you are under the mistaken impression that Captain Bourke praised the virtues of Indian scouts "once and fleetingly," you can feel free to peruse the free Google eBooks of his writings.

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Most of the stuff you do dredge up that isn't false is off point. That we don't bother on about it persuades you you've won the argument and crushed us like bugs. Whatever, if it makes you happy to think so, that's great. If there were world enough and time, it might be interesting to delve into the history of asian interlopers in America, but there isn't, and so we focus where it's needed: on the ruling jews and how to organize against them.
Obviously, you had an interest in defending the false claim that there were euros in America prior to Indians, given the time that you invested into it. That you were definitively refuted by genetic research and fell flat on your face in your inept attempts to promote your mythology does not contradict the fact that you still invested that time.

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Um...well...yeah...sort of. Germany is pretty heavily populated. There's no scenic vistas as you get in the Old West. So they like reading adventure stories, so what? It doesn't mean anything more than that. The American Westi is a great place, and as far as I know, there is nothing like it in Europe. Germans like traveling, in books and in real life. Everywhere you go you will find Germans.
Actually, we'll soon find neither krauts nor any other species of trespasser in our lands.

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Now...if you want to get personal. I've never in my life been fat, and spent my entire youth outside playing sports, to the extent I wasn't reading books privately or in school.
You've never in your life been fat? I've not yet seen a skinny infant.

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Honestly, red "man," is there a white vice you haven't acquired yet? You've taken up the worst our shitty bible preachers and crank academics;
I absorbed what I was brought up in, just as you weren't born a fighting ninja of a RAHOWARRIOR. My approach to empirical research was a more autonomous personal choice.

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you've gotten fat and sloppy from our crappy processed food;
Though not physically incapable at the level of sedentary euros.

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you spent at least as much of your life on computers during the prime physical years of your life as anyone
Actually, I've not, which is why I don't have the time or patience to generate instantaneous book-length replies as you do. If I couldn't copy and paste most of my posts from previous posts, since idiots don't read the first time, or type more than a hundred words a minute, I wouldn't invest the time myself.

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I live White. Do you live red? Fuck no you don't. And you don't want to. And that's ok. What's white is vastly preferable to what's red. What's not ok, or what is despicable, is that you can't even admit that truth to yourself, which gutlessness is the only truly red thing about you, at least if we're to accept Twain's characterization of indians as cowardly. Maybe he's wrong, but we you can't prove it by you. Can we?
You don't "live white," exactly. You live Indian, since the expansion in euro population size was enabled by Indian cultivated crops. Maybe we could also say that you live East Asian; who leads innovation in these consumer electronics that you inaccurately describe as "white"? And of course, according to your own claims, you live in a country governed by Jews. You could go live in the Occupied Territories, and take the fight against them directly. But you won't put your money where your mouth is; you prefer to remain a keyboard warrior in Sticksville. And that's a damn shame, because your excuse of a "movement" is actually dependent on the vanguardist actions of extraordinary individuals, whereas my goals are merely dependent on the continuation of a demographic phenomenon that's been occurring for decades and will inevitably continue, since we are coming back into our own.

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Who the fuck is stopping you from living EXACTLY the way your people have lived since they wiped out the aboriginal whites in the American Southwest, or another subset of reds who accomplished that mission before the Apaches displaced them? The evil racists at VNN that you "crush like bugs"?
There were no "aboriginal whites in the American Southwest"; try not to repeat stupid lies. But on this same note, what's stopping you from living in the same tribalist manner that the traditional West Germanics did while the people of Mesoamerica built complex civilizations and urban structures?

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You're the joke, son. Now go take a lap, spray someone else's property with your tuff little gangfag sign and make yourself feel better. Tool.
Do I have time to take laps or spray property? I thought my only time was devoted to the Internet, according to you.
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When I'm grand dictator of all concerned, I will see to it that that useless second 'o' is removed. All will thank me.
Goddam - it's the political Holy Grail we've been looking for!
 
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The blogger at Furry Girl had a different take on it: She found it exploitative, pointing out that there was no way to know for sure that these women were sex workers and that they hadn't consented to this man profiting off their images.

http://jezebel.com/5826029/book-of-r...le-street-view

"Sex workers" - fuck. Got a perfectly suitable word like prostitute or whore, and you have to drab it out as 'sex workers.' Fucking stalinists. You can smell the concrete block of flats. Really puts the drab in drabs. (Look up drab if you don't what I'm getting at.)

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Just sayin' - At the end of a sentence that might not be considered popular opinion. It seems passive aggressive to me.

"Epic" - Epic this, epic that.

"Fail"

Any text talk, said out loud, or typed.
 
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Apparently, kinder was not satisfied by the ass beating that he received in his asinine attempt to claim that Martians, Atlantians, and Solutreans built the ancient structures of America before vanishing into thin air, and he will therefore receive another ass beating here, in line with his own desires.
Um yeah, I think you have me confused with your special friend at the bathhouse.

If you're referring to me re the stone sorta pyramids in southern Mexico region, I said I wouldn't be in the least surprised if structures attributed to browns were actually by Whites. Or space aliens, for that matter. Who would be?

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Not at all true. If you actually looked on RevLeft instead of making unsupported assertions regarding leftist beliefs, for example, you'd see that to be untrue. As I've stated, fascism, bluntly summarized, is the combination of extremely authoritarian state and corporate capitalist power, with jingoistic/chauvinistic features such as racism and nationalism typically being characteristics of the fascist regime.
And like I said, this sort of definition says basically nothing. It could just as easily to 2011 AmeriKwa as Hitler's Germany or Mussolini's Italy. Fascism is better taken as 2-3 regimes, big men, and their histories, rather than some genuine ideology or political system. In fact, I would say it is basically just Mussolini's ideas and instantiation, not even Hitler's, really. What I advocate is considerably different from either of these, altho there are similar elements. To use the term to describe me personally or what I advocate (in a subforum devoted to the future White stat) makes no sense - unless you're simply trying to class me as the enemy, which is exactly what I said fascism is used to do. Yes. I'm a heretic from your communist church. That's the only way the term applies. The term is applied to anyone who is not a leftist. That's undeniable. It has no real credibility as a denotation unless you're discussion Mussolini's Italy.

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To consider the elements of fascist political and cultural ideology and economy, we might look at Umberto Eco's conception of "Eternal Fascism," or Zanden's Pareto and Fascism Reconsidered (thanks, Reiver), which provide important insights.
Why read leftists? All they're going to do is go over history I can get from others, and draw bogus or irrelevant parallels to modern pols they don't like. I've read Eatwell's "Fascism" and Griffin's Fascism reader, to get a taste of the words of the originals. I don't really get a lot out of any of it, altho there's nothing wrong with the writing or thinking. Fascism just isn't that distinct. It's all big-government statism with some element of racialism or nationalism. Not what I advocate, which is a bunch of microstates beneath a monofunctional federal umbrella. You should know that from reading here. And not apply to me what doesn't fit what I advocate.

What dictator out there doesn't have some kind of combo of state power + big business and some kind of theory of the people that has elements of racialism and nationalism? They all do. All big men think like that. Even the ones who are overtly anti-racist like Castro or Chavez or Stalin do. I don't. So it's not applicable, except as a general epithet.

Fascism has no clear meaning. It's simply what Mussolini said and did, and to a less extent Hitler. There are superficial similarities with what I advocate, but not enough it's correct to call me or VNN fascist. What self-respecting fascist would have a website with a woodpecker on it? That right there is a sign for the non-tone deaf. And it's backed up by what I actually advocate, which is in one specific way harder than anything NS or the blackshirts pushed, and in most other ways, looser and less intrusive.

The truth is what I said: fascist, as used by leftists, is simply an epithet. In common leftist parlance it refers to anyone who doesn't accept leftist lies about Whites and race in general. It's used by leftists to indicate a man is not on your side.

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As Zanden puts it, "obedience, discipline, faith and a religious belief in the cardinal tenets of the Fascist creed are put forth as the supreme values of a perfect Fascist. Individual thinking along creative lines is discouraged.
Yeah, cuz if there was one thing Nazis weren't it was creative. Right. Face it - that's just ideology you're citing, it doesn't refer to the real world, where leftists are about 100x more lockstep and intolerant than any 'nazis' you care to meet.

The whole point of the Fuhrerprinzip is that you rise to the level of competence. It was all about initiative, personal responsibility, and results. Neither did Hitler micromanage industry. He knew darn well that you can't fake industrial or commercial knowledge by replacing proven managers with political hacks, he simply coordinated the larger concerns to ensure he had the raw materials he needed. The opposite of how your communist buddies did it in the USSR. Ideology, meet real world - and get slapped down.

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What is wanted is not brains, daring ideas, or speculative faculties, but character pressed in the mold of Fascism."
You ever read any NS diaries from wartime? Think about Skorzeny's rescue of Mussolini. Did that take any brains, daring and speculation? And the SS were the highest example of NS - the type of man it actually valued and tried to create. Of course, average people were trained in doctrine and useful physical skills. Germany was 200 miles away from world-historical mass-murderers, and needed to prepare to defend itself, since blood relatives of those murderers were attempting the same revolutions within Germany.

Somehow these super-rigid Nazis got their nation out of debt, created autobahns, ended unemployment, develop rocket science and concept of blitzkrieg, but some communist clown says they didn't want brains, daring, or speculative faculties. Well, the evidence says...they did. Of course, real life isn't subject to peer review, so I understand why you'd rather get your opinions out of the head of a sympathetic communist.

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[/I]Eco agrees, writing that, "there can be no advancement of learning. Truth already has been spelled out once and for all, and we can only keep interpreting its obscure message."
Yeah...the NS were so intellectually dead the Americans and British didn't steal literally thousands of copyrights out of Germany after the war. And the NS ideas were so stupid that the "democrats" didn't outlaw them, ban their parties, and mass-burn all the books - because they were stupid, shallow, wrong, and hidebound. Christ, if there's one hallmark of NS, it's sure as hell not stasis. It's movement. Intellectual, physical, martial, political - all kinds of movement. New films, plays, roads, cars, uniforms, public buildings, money-arrangements. A new political order purely based from real-life social engineering to overcome the formerly unovercome-able jew. Remarkable, itz. And the commies say their ENEMY's system is stultifying? Are you kidding?

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Fascism also has a necessarily anti-democratic nature because its class structure emphasizes elitism, and the natural arrangement of a select few governing the masses for their own good.
Actually, what NS emphasized, in poster after poster, was the head and hands working together. NS was national and focused not on class conflict but class comity. NS emphasized elitism in the sense of rewarding competence, at least within the party.

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As Zanden notes, "the mass of men is created to be governed and not to govern; is created to be led and not to lead, and is created, finally, to be slaves and not masters: slaves of their animal instincts, their physiological needs, their emotions, and their passions."
A far apter description of communism than any other system.

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Similarly, Eco writes that [I]"the Leader, knowing his power was not delegated to him democratically but was conquered by force, also knows that his force is based upon the weakness of the masses; they are so weak as to need and deserve a ruler."
And that would be a simple lie. Hitler was elected. He was also responsible. In a democracy, no one is responsible, it's all just group buck-passing - see the current congressional-executive debacle over the pending default. All government does is mark certain markets off limits, and interfere in the legal ones. Markets themselves preexist government. It's purely a matter of how much and in which areas government interferes. 'Capitalist' is another word that can't be tied to a specific meaning and so is better avoided.

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The fascist economy is thus fundamentally capitalist, and I wouldn't expect deviation from that, in light of the necessity of elitism in fascist society.
Mere buzzwords. It never occurs to your level mind that the knowledge to run industry is not built up overnight. That's why your inferior kind, where it gains power, simply nationalizes all business until the economy dies. And then it uses slave labor to create stuff that doesn't really work. And more people die creating stupid damns out in the wilderness than ever died in any evil capitalist factory, not to mention capitalism gets progressively abler over time, whereas communism sucks from start to finish. The people you're smearing as fascists are smarter than that. Because they grasp concepts of competition, competence, and free markets. That's why when your kind is in power, 'the people' you non-'elitists' claim to represent the interests of have to stand in line for toilet paper.

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Obviously, you haven't legitimately been against centralized state power;
Depends how you want to look at it. I support a racial dictatorship because there is no other way to deal with the mess jews have made. But I'm on record since the mid-80s advocating DEcentralization once an all-White society is created. The only duty of the central state as regards business is to make sure no one is allowed to profit by undermining the racial basis of the state. That far I will go with Hitler - the state as the vehicle of the race. But I don't agree the state should be undertaking fifty kinds of research, public health, eugenics, Mars trips, Operas in every last hamlet - none of that. My view is not the same as Hitler's, and I'm pretty sure my view is better, at least for Americans. The state does one thing: defends the race from enemies external and internal. The rest is up to the people themselves. If they don't like the racial basis of the state, they can fight to prevent its birth (1), leave after it gets established (2) (if they're ordinary people and not war criminals), or (3) enjoy a sort of rumspringa when they turn legal adults if born into it. Beyond that, anything they want is up to them to devise in their various microstates. And if they decide wrong, they are free to go to another microstate. Thus, one fucked up small group does not fuck the entire nation. Now you tell me how that squares with Hitlerism? It doesn't. So you calling me fascist is precisely analogous to me calling you mexican: inaccurate as description, functioning only as insult.

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you've been opposed to the consequences of presently existing state power, which you (incorrectly) perceive as providing support for ethnic minorities.
Yeah...this whole forum documents (correctly) that this nation is run by jews for their own racial benefit, and with muds favored and privileged, legally, over Whites. It's not a matter of opinion.

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The role of the state in the capitalist economy is actually to sustain the physical efficiency of the working class, and preserve their role as manual laborers.
Really? Is that why 'working class people' are so damned obese? The last thing the state does is encourage health among workers. Rather, it damages them by sucking huge amounts from them in taxes, preventing their ever getting ahead by honest work. Yet another reason the state must go.

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Yet, since your delusions of ethnic cleansing will require authoritarian hierarchical force on the part of a vanguard to carry out, that constitutes support of centralized state power.
Yes, that's true. To that extent. And for a limited time - until the new state is firmly established on a racial basis, with the means to sustain itself through the creation of monofunctional defense agency that will be the new founding government.

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LOL! You speak of euros "leading" others of other continents "out of savagery into civilization." The great civilizations of the ancient world arose in Sumer, Babylonia, Mesopotamia, Egypt, China, India, and of course, Mesoamerica.
No one but you considers Mesoamerica a "great" civilization. And nothing in the others is remotely on the level of what White men built in a scant 2,000 years. If you were a thinking man, rather than a repeating page-rifler, you'd use this test to tell: list everything you can see with your eyes open inside your room. Now find one thing in that mess that isn't a product of White culture. It's all good? Nah. ITZ ALL WHITE.

Ancien Sumer? Lol. You've got to be kidding.

"They wouldn't put it in a book if it wasn't true!"

Oh, but they would.

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For millenniums, the ostensibly biologically inferior people of these lands produced social and technological advancements that the population of Europe lacked, and even when the classical civilizations of Greece and Rome came to be, the Germanic and Celtic peoples of the north were often engaged in the nomadic tribalism that you claim is a sign of biological inferiority in other peoples.
Yet the Germanic and Celtic people eventually equaled, if not surpassed, what the Greeks did. So it can't be biological. What other race has gone as far as the Germanic tribes in Europe, in such a short time? Negroes? Mexicans? Chinese?

I don't beqrudge the squints and the ewoks their modest achievements, I just don't think they're even interesting next to what my people achieved. All the best writing is ours, all the humor, all the sports creations and the vast majority of the superior performances in sports, music, art, etc. It's not us whites rushing off to pollute Nigeria; it's nigerians and mexicans and vietnamese and chinese rushing off to invade our civilizations. You don't have to listen to a WN, you can take it from the mudskis themselves: our way is better. And for you to claim we "stole" all this we made here -- even you know that's ridiculous.

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Your demands are inconsequential inasmuch as they conflict with ours, as euros are the parasitic cancer of the world, scarcely able to even merit the description of humans, and will have "their own nations," but as livestock are enclosed in their pens. After the repatriation occurs, measures will be taken to extract reparations from Europe, followed by a permanent confinement of its inhabitants.
That's the plan, anyway.

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Obviously, "races," in the sense of branches of a phylogenetic tree, or defined as clades or clines, do not exist, not only because of the arbitrary nature of drawing meaningful divisions within the phylogenetic tree (since genomic diversity is a continuum rather than sharply segmented), but also because the various branches have admixed since time immemorial. The modern populations that you fallaciously define as "races" are themselves produced of admixture from previously existing populations themselves defined as "races," as described in Jack Forbes's The Mestizo Concept: A Product of European Imperialism:
Yet neither of us has any difficulty identifying the other as enemy, for racial reasons. So in the sense that matters, the functional sense, races do exist, do matter, and are at odds, and your actual behavior, no matter your attempted pseudo-intellectualizing of it, reflects that base and unchanging fact.

I'll say again, race is rough around the edges, everyone recognizes that. But that doesn't mean, as you try to force it to mean, that race does not exist, or does not matter.

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Consistency is not your strong point.
It's not yours, you mean. By the token you just used. If race doesn't exist, why do you hate Whites and want to kick them back to Europe?

There isn't a gang of injuns out there that wasn't in perpetual battle with its neighbor tribes. Not a single thing you blame on the white tribe couldn't apply to the Aztecs and Incas (and the rest of them) against every other tribe they came in contact with. Yet your only problem is with one race - mine. So I wouldn't be yapping about consistency if I were you.

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Obviously, neither of those "facts" is true, as the defining point of the modern world is the actual fact that euros ventured without invitation or welcome to every other inhabited continent and admixture with the inhabitants of those continents occurred.
Aztecs and Incas didn't start out where they ended up either, and they ass-stomped their fellow brownskins along the way. Not to mention that the balance of evidence suggests Europeans are the true original Americans, thus hoisting you on your own petard.

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Fascism is in many regards mutated and extremist conservatism. The intensification of fascist measures is created by crisis, either legitimate or false-flag, such as the Reichstag Fire
All democratic politics runs the exact same way - the manufacturing of crises as a pretext for expanded government. You ought to get out more intellectually. Read some Mencken.

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." --H.L. Mencken

He wasn't talking about 'fascists,' just ordinary democratic politicians - which, come to think of it, Hitler was.

"Education crisis,' 'health care crisis,' 'budget crisis.' - every one of those terms can be found in tomorrow's paper. And I don't think we have a 'fascist' government.

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and the commencement of WWII in the case of Nazi Germany. The racist element of fascism comes through the association of crisis with certain ethnic groups and often, usage of genetic determinism to attack them.
No, it comes from observing a tiny hostile group of aliens conduct a successful revolution a couple hundred miles away, while using the same rhetoric and techniques to try to produce the same thing at home. That's judeo-bolshevism, as the Nazis termed it. It's no association like they invented it. The jews themselves BRAGGED about what they were doing. "Some call it communism, I call it Judaism" -- Steven Wise, the #1 rabbi in the US in the first half of the 20th century. But no, you go on believing Hitler made it all up. The jews didn't really murder the royal family and institute a communist revolution and starve and in other ways mass murder tens of millions of people.

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We can empirically determine the effects of crisis associated with an ethnic group through consultation of Effects of terrorism on attitudes and ideological orientation: "A quasi-experimental study on the effects of terrorism on racial prejudice and ideological orientation is presented. Two independent samples were contacted before and after the Islamic terrorist attacks against railways in Madrid (11 March 2004). Anti-Arab and anti-Semite prejudices, authoritarianism and ideological orientations (liberal against conservative) were evaluated. Results showed that those terrorist attacks provoked changes in a reactionary and conservative direction: stronger prejudices not only against the target group (Arabs), but against another uninvolved group (Jewish); an increase in authoritarianism; stronger attachment to traditional conservative values, and a reduction in the attachment to liberal values."
Meaningless.

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That there is a scalar relationship between moderate and severe crisis and commensurate moderate and severe response in terms of negative ethnic discrimination is supported by a mainstream pundit's linkage of the two in advocacy of such negative ethnic discrimination, namely Michelle Malkin's In Defense of Internment: The Case for Racial Profiling in World War II and the War on Terror, The book features this product description: "The author of Invasion argues that the internment of ethnic Japanese during World War II was the result of real national security concerns, just as the Bush administration's moves to interrogate, track, and deport suspected terrorists is moderate and restrained."

That there is a precedent for U.S. citizens perceived as associated with a hostile foreign ethnic group that functions as a treasonous or seditious fifth column is indicated by this wartime Los Angeles Times editorial: "A viper is nonetheless a viper wherever the egg is hatched...So, a Japanese American born of Japanese parents, nurtured upon Japanese traditions, living in a transplanted Japanese atmosphere...notwithstanding his nominal brand of accidental citizenship almost inevitably and with the rarest exceptions grows up to be a Japanese, and not an American...Thus, while it might cause injustice to a few to treat them all as potential enemies, I cannot escape the conclusion... that such treatment...should be accorded to each and all of them while we are at war with their race."

So your program is one of American or euro fascism bolstered by colonial-era propaganda.
It would help if you stated directly what you imagine your citations are proving. Malkin is a know neocon married to a jew. Not just Japanese but Germans and Italians were put in camps in WWII, altho that fact is never brought up by the neocons or the communists, the two wings of the one-party system.

As you ought to know from reading here, we are not neocons, we are their enemies. They are trying to wreck our white nation with colored immigration, but that same immigration lets in muslism who hate jews. A conundrum, itz.

We Whites are consistent: we don't want ANY muslims or jews in our nation.

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The "anomalies" that I refer to (i.e. successful black Caribbean islands, Mexican crime correlating with euro admixture, historic Argentine crime), are themselves general trends based on large data sets, not individual anecdotes, which could accurately be defined as exceptions to a rule.
Yeah, that's true, but AS DATA SETS, they are anomalies against other groups of data sets taken from, say, the fifty or 100 largest American cities. You have found 1-2 dubious examples, if we stipulate your findings, which I don't care enough about to more than skim, due to their being boring and lack of time, but we could come up with 100 data sets just as large from our cities to prove that race is correlated with crime. How do you not grasp that? 1-2 hazy examples vs 100 absolutely clear-cut examples. The latter crushes the former.

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Colonialists developed their propaganda in accordance with their current desires and intentions regarding the indigenous people that they subjugated, principally due to the aid of communicable disease.
And just maybe they developed their theories based on their observations and experiences with redskins.

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As James Loewen writes in Lies My Teachers Told Me of Columbus himself, "When Columbus was selling Queen Isabella on the wonders of the Americas, the Indians were 'well built' and 'of quick intelligence.' 'They have very good customs,' he wrote, 'and the king maintains a very marvelous state, of a style so orderly that it is a pleasure to see it, and they have good memories and they wish to see everything and ask what it is and for what it is used.' Later, when Columbus was justifying his wars and his enslavement of the Natives, they became 'cruel' and 'stupid,' 'a people warlike and numerous, whose customs and religion are very different from ours.'...Columbus gives us the first recorded example of cognitive dissonance in the Americas, for although the Natives may have changed from hospitable to angry, they could hardly have evolved from intelligent to stupid so quickly. The change had to be in Columbus."
Well, you see, that's why you got to write your own history. I would think with being an 'advanced' civilization and all you'd have some of that, but hey, I guess not.

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There's no such thing as the "Jewish race." Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews tend to cluster with euros, or at a position somewhat closer to Middle Eastern populations than most other euros, whereas other Jews tend to cluster with neighboring populations.
Race has a number of meanings, and jews certainly qualify for at least one of them. Their entire thing is how apart they are from every other group in the world, and that alone qualifies them as a race, no matter what genes tests say.

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Then your genetic determinism "doesn't matter" either, as many wops not only have a closer FST distance to euro Jews than they do to northern euro populations; they indeed have a closer distance to Palestinians than to those northern populations.
We aren't genetic determinists. That's a strawman you created. We might be genetic determinists after we get our racial state, but for today, looks white and acts white (and is not jewish) is enough.

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There is no euro "race or culture." There were formerly thousands of communities that became hundreds of city-states, that are still heterogenous and diverse nation-states with dispossessed ethnic minorities within them, that have substantial differences in language, religion, and all the other characteristics of a meaningful ethnic group.
No two snowflakes are the same, therefore snow does not exist. Everything is an abstraction at some level, and race is a perfectly functional one.

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Cite peer-reviewed genomic research that illustrates that there is a greater FST distance between all euros and all other populations than there is between euros themselves. The greatest degree of diversity occurs within so-called "races."
There's no need to because that's not the relevant criterion.

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LOL! "Hundreds of millions"? I thought the usual "Black Book" count was 100 million, most of that in China. I guess, apart from wishing numbers out of existence (American and Jewish Holocausts), you can wish them into existence at your leisure too.
I've seen different numbers, some of them well over 100 million. Who knows what the truth is? The bottom line is that jewish-communism got more people killed dead than any other system devised by humans, and it's not done yet.

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This is the Big Lie produced by the Judeo-communist multicult public schools and mass media, and fed to the gullible WASP goyim. Race exists. You can't define guineas out of existence.
Maybe you should go to the Jersey Shore and tell Snooki and the Juiceheads they're niggers, eh?

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The bigots of that day had exactly the same scientific justification for negative discrimination against this social underclass of euro immigrants on the grounds of genetic determinism that the modern bigots do, which is to say none. They had no evidence; they had pseudo-scientific methods based on phrenology and similar charlatan techniques, just as you do today.
The tests hadn't been perfected yet. Some mistakes were made. But IQ tests have proven reliable over time. No serious person disputes they measure something real. And there are observable differences, both between races and within them. So what? Everybody knows that already.

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It's your subjective perception that those "ethnic tensions" are smaller, yet I would wager that many Saami and Basques would find more commonalities with Native Americans than they would with their colonialist neighbors.
It's telling the only way you can make even the pathetic arguments you do make is by running to some distant corner of the world and dragging up some tiny group that is in some small way deviant from the bulk. It's just dumb.

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And moreover, your own cataract is one of extreme inconsistency; you define a small ethnic population with very great genomic similarity to many euros as a greater and more fundamental threat than populations with considerably more distance from euros, thereby confirming your own belief that so-called "anti-white" threat is not necessarily commensurate to genomic distance from euros.
History shows jews are a threat to Whites. If they behaved like Amish, who would care about them?

Just go ask jews themselves if they're white. They'll say they're not. Genes is only part of it.

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I'm sure you'll thank and credit southern euro civilization as superior to that of northern euro civilization, in that case, since the West Germanic language that you are typing in is being reproduced in the Latin alphabet. Can you reproduce it in the West Germanic alphabet?
I give credit to anyone or culture that deserves it. It's not problem to me if this or that group created more than my ethnic group, I couldn't care less.

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The most significant euro contribution to medicine in ancient times was that of Galen, certainly not a Christian. For the centuries of euro Dark Ages, the only light in the darkness was the Berber occupation of Iberia and the advancement produced by the Islamic Golden Age, and the likes of physicians such as Al-Zahrawi. Throughout the Dark Ages, Europe remained vastly inferior in science and medicine.
Yeah, that's bullshit. The clowns you get this from write about Europe in the way you object to when it's about your people.

Yeah, which injun, spook, slant discovered the virus, the microscope, the x-ray? Yeah, sonny, there's your truth of the matter. NO race did jack shit in medicine before the industrial revolution, and that revolution and the medical revolution that sprung from it were 100% white.

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After the interlopers devastated America through their transmission of diseases, which they believed were divine plagues, the precious metals that they converted into bullion and cultivated crops that they harvested in Europe produced research and development as well as population increases that eventually brought about western euro advancements in the Scientific Revolution, Enlightenment, and eventual discovery of antibiotics. It's something that would have been accomplished by any other population in their place.
I'm sure it's comforting to you to believe that.

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A conclusion reached through empirical analysis of a large data set is not an anecdote, but analysis of an aggregation of anecdotes, and a sufficient basis for developing cautious inferences if reached by multiple researchers using peer-reviewed methods.
Whatever level you want, comparison of crime stats proves the racial correlation or cause.

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Was Samuel Clemens a member of a wartime expedition to capture the most famous guerrilla warrior that the United States has ever known? Did he eat, sleep, and travel amongst Apaches? Has it occurred to you that there might be a difference between Chiricahuas and an unrelated tribe in an unrelated cultural area, even if his observations were spot-on?
He traveled all over the west and saw pretty much everything there was to see.

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Is this the same man who said this of the Philippines? "The enemy numbered 600 - including women and children - and we abolished them utterly, leaving not even a baby alive to cry for its dead mother. This is incomparably the greatest victory that was ever achieved by the Christian soldiers of the United States."
It sure is. Notice that we White Nationalists reject the christ-crank concept of raising brownclowns out of savagery into civiliztion - but I said that already.

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Is this the same man who said, "Who are the oppressors? The few: the King, the capitalist, and a handful of other overseers and superintendents. Who are the oppressed? The many: the nations of the earth; the valuable personages; the workers; they that make the bread that the soft-handed and idle eat."
I know everything Twain said, or close to it. So what?

When he wrote his portrait of the red man, he wasn't referring to any particular tribe but the whole wretched mass of them. Ow, that's gotta sting.

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This member of the Anti-Imperialist League who wrote King Leopold's Soliloquy is the man you're attempting to appropriate into your fascist movement, because of colonialist claims he made in his early life, as opposed to the mature anti-colonialist thought of his later life?
My movement isn't fascist, and I don't try to claim Twain for anything except an honest observer who was no doubt accurate in his writings a lot more often than wrong. It's true that whites sometimes are as vicious to blacks and browns as they are to each other all the time. But of course, no one expects much of the brown and black races, as all history shows they aren't capable of it.

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Moreover, if you are under the mistaken impression that Captain Bourke praised the virtues of Indian scouts "once and fleetingly," you can feel free to peruse the free Google eBooks of his writings.
Pettifogging; you know darn well I could dredge up an infinite number of accounts of indiots engaged in the most vicious slaughter of white pioneers.

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Obviously, you had an interest in defending the false claim that there were euros in America prior to Indians, given the time that you invested into it. That you were definitively refuted by genetic research and fell flat on your face in your inept attempts to promote your mythology does not contradict the fact that you still invested that time.
The balance of evidence is not conclusive either way, but leans toward Europeans predating Asians. Keep clinging to your study, though. It will hold until they either start testing Europeans or they are finally allowed to study the old skeletons and report the findings without interference.

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Actually, we'll soon find neither krauts nor any other species of trespasser in our lands.
Yet another from your bottomless bag of bogus theories.

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You've never in your life been fat? I've not yet seen a skinny infant.
Well, you got me there, Cocheezy.

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I absorbed what I was brought up in, just as you weren't born a fighting ninja of a RAHOWARRIOR. My approach to empirical research was a more autonomous personal choice.
Empirical research is where you've vested your religious impulse, it is clear.

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Actually, I've not, which is why I don't have the time or patience to generate instantaneous book-length replies as you do. If I couldn't copy and paste most of my posts from previous posts, since idiots don't read the first time, or type more than a hundred words a minute, I wouldn't invest the time myself.
Are you friggin' kidding me? I only did this super long interpolation for one year, and that year was 1997. Back then I could fly. Now I'm slow by comparison. I almost never do it, only if I can make some points or blast some morons for amusement.

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You don't "live white," exactly. You live Indian, since the expansion in euro population size was enabled by Indian cultivated crops.
You're getting high off your own farts, at this points. Remember what your jewish buddies say: don't plow too deep to see over your own furrow. I can drive 20 miles and see all kinds of DeKalb test rows, and Indians have nothing to do with corn, these days, as they have to do with anything else.

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Maybe we could also say that you live East Asian; who leads innovation in these consumer electronics that you inaccurately describe as "white"?
Who created the entire industry? Whites. Sure, asians do some stuff. Not the basic stuff though.

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And of course, according to your own claims, you live in a country governed by Jews. You could go live in the Occupied Territories, and take the fight against them directly. But you won't put your money where your mouth is; you prefer to remain a keyboard warrior in Sticksville.
The occupied territories is not MY fight, it's the Palestinians'.

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That's closer to a valid point, and I agree mostly. Did you see what happened in Norway the other day?

Your "coming into your own" is purely a function of jewish control of our government. You think whites fear your collection of t-shirted bangers, but they don't. They're just middle-class people trying to get by; the minute the hard times come, or the political price paid for resisting the jews is lifted, you will be surprised how quickly things change.

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There were no "aboriginal whites in the American Southwest"; try not to repeat stupid lies. But on this same note, what's stopping you from living in the same tribalist manner that the traditional West Germanics did while the people of Mesoamerica built complex civilizations and urban structures?
Unlike yours, my people have gone forward, and I'm not overly unhappy with where we are, technically at least. So I run with it. And work on the stuff I don't like - the shitty religion and political missteps.

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That's why you need to take a lap and do some soul searching. And ask yourself why whites run mexico (according to you) when you guys dominate it demographically. And what does that imply for you pipe dream of taking over the US?
 
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Using "ghetto" to describe something in poor shape. This is more of a thing said by white women, who all over the country seem to have transformed into valley girls, but some white males are turning into valley girls too.

"Becky, that is sooooooooo ghetto..."
 
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Go/Went: Instead of "said"
 
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Go/Went: Instead of "said"
Trashy white people, especially young girls, use "go/went" and even more prevalently, "was like" instead of "said". Niggers use "say" instead of "said". Thus:

Niggers:

I say to dat ho: "Is you messin' wid mah man Tyrone"?

She say: " I ain't even know no Tyrone"

I say: If I catches you wid him I cuts both yo' throats.

She say: Git outs my face, bitch.

Trashy White Girls:

I was like: "Are you seeing my boyfriend, Jack, behind my back?"

And she was like: "I don't even know Jack."

And I was like: "If I catch you two, I'll kick your ass AND his ass."

And she was like: "Whatever"

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Hello: As in "That racism shit was supposed to be over 50 years ago. Hel-lo??"

So: "That is sooo not cool, dude."
 
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White men should not wear the jersey or number of another man. White men should not put on their vehicle/truck the number of their favorite sporting personality. This is direct proof that the nfl flavored Kool-Aid has estrogen as a base component.
 
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I heard the "like" word used in a similar manner in 1958. One day teacher Mrs. Leach announced in most somber voice: "we have a crisis. Pat Anderson is transferring into this class." Pat Anderson was the (female) troublemaker.

Pat's favorite expression- "well I mean LIKE woowww." Snotty, narcissistic bitchiness. The Beatnik generation was just starting- acting cool was in. It'z been a "Beatnik Party" ever since.



The Beat Generation is a group of American post-WWII writers who came to prominence in the 1950s, as well as the cultural phenomena that they both documented and inspired. Central elements of "Beat" culture included experimentation with drugs, alternative forms of sexuality, an interest in Eastern religion, a rejection of materialism, and the idealizing of exuberant, unexpurgated means of expression and being.

Allen Ginsberg's Howl (1956), William S. Burroughs's Naked Lunch (1959) and Jack Kerouac's On the Road (1957) are among the best known examples of Beat literature.[1] Both Howl and Naked Lunch were the focus of obscenity trials that ultimately helped to liberalize publishing in the United States.[2][3] The members of the Beat Generation developed a reputation as new bohemian hedonists, who celebrated non-conformity and spontaneous creativity.

The original "Beat Generation" writers met in New York. Later, the central figures (with the exception of Burroughs) ended up together in San Francisco in the mid-1950s where they met and became friends with figures associated with the San Francisco Renaissance.

In the 1960s, elements of the expanding Beat movement were incorporated into the Hippie counterculture.

Beat_Generation Beat_Generation

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"Decimated" when "devastated" is meant.

Decimated, from the root word 'deci', meaning 10 or tenth, means to destroy, or kill, or take away 1/10th of. Thus, if something has been "decimated", it is still 90% intact.

"Devastated", on the other hand, means to wipe out, to lay waste to.

So that the niggers can understand:

This area has been decimated by a tornado:



This area has been devastated by a tornado:


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Saying "try and...." when they mean "try to...". Example: I'm going to try and straighten out that idiotic liberal's thinking with a good ass-kicking."

Another one is saying "I could care less" when they mean "I could not care less".
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