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#1 Conjunction of MGTOW and White Nationalism
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Good topic
Agree, lots of layered importance and concepts intertwined.
This topic and philosophy deserves study and brainstorming. here's also some meat on the bone: https://dailystormer.name/self-help-...-keep-a-woman/ |
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I feel deeply for the men who wish to have a traditional family but are not after finding a mate for whatever reason. You can PM me if you like, I am from a place with a very low divorce rate, semi-traditional culture and suffering economically from out-migration. 99% white and not a single nonwhite have I seen for 3 months (last time I went to town). Even in town there are hardly any nonwhites, won't see them outside of the hospital or the university. If you wish to PM me I can tell you where I am at and possibly help you immigrate if you were interested. Because there are a lot of nice single women that want marriage and kids. Many of our men and boys are after going away to work, some towns the sex ratio is 70% female 30% male. The divorce rate here is very low. I don't understand why Daily Stormer is against traditionalism and thinks traditionalism can't work. There are traditional white communities that exist. Amish and so on. Personally I believe the slander against women is unwarranted and I think that modern people, in general, male and female, are not good. Women are not inherently rotten, evil whores. I have no idea what he's talking about, we are not even sexual inherently until some external influence makes us become sexual. Really women are not very sexual at all and I believe that most of modern women's hypersexuality is FAKE to get attention. I don't think men realize how nonsexual most women really are. They are projecting and think women are like them. I think women are acting the way they do nowadays because of all the media brainwashing. Also they know men like to watch porn so they think men want them to behave like the women in porn. Girls are first seeing this stuff when they are still children, along with Ariana Grande and similar things on mainstream TV, and they internalize these types of women as their role models and mimic their behaviour because they see them getting praise and attention. Traditional women don't get praise or attention. Women behave in the way that will get them attention and social status. Women act like whores because the guys around them show that they want women who act like whores, that's who they give attention to, so they think that's what men want. Divorce rate here is very low but I don't know many men who act like the "alpha" man stereotype from the red pill sites but most people around the bay do traditional things like hunting and gathering to store food for the winter, not for an ideological reason but because we need to in order to survive, for example people try to get fat before winter when there is a lot of food because when winter comes the boats will stop running and we will be isolated with nothing coming in. And there might not be food. So people try on purpose to get fat before winter, eat less and lose weight over the winter while rationing food. So people aren't soft like on the mainland. We can survive in this degenerate age because we are not disconnected from the reality of being an animal that has to obtain shelter, heat, and food to stay alive, something most people don't think about anymore. Anyways these Daily Stormer writers are sick to suggest child marriage, really, I don't know any father who would let an adult man near his daughter. What is the point of marrying a girl that young if it would increase her chances of problems during pregnancy and birth. Only if it's some weirdo's personal fantasy and who would make policy based on some one's sexual fetish. I mean if adult men are wedding very young girls what is to happen to the young men? Are they to be angry virgins for decades? The best marriages are those between high school sweethearts or two people who lost their virginity young to each other. Promiscuity leads to social disharmony and chastity needs to make a comeback. I am after knowing a lot of young virgin girls and its young virgin men they all want to marry. I don't know why white men hate us for feminism when they are the ones after pushing feminism and birth control on us so they can use us for sex. Women here where I am from are so sweet and so kind hearted I don't know how anyone could hate women. My husband believes the same and all the men I know IRL say the same. Maybe mainland women acting evil but then, its big city culture giving people anonymity. Small town culture keeps people well behaved because their reputation is at stake. Along with the antibiotics for STDs being inaccessible, so you can't act like a whore or you'll get a disease you won't be able to cure easily. But it goes the same for men as for women, men can't be using women for sex and then be expecting them to be good girls and not be damaged by that treatment and become whores. That's what happens. If men want women to be good they have to not be defiling them. Most men think girls that don't act like whores are boring prudes and this is what almost all guys were like, when I was on the mainland. Men love the way that whores act and want women to act like the slutty girls they watch in pornos. When women act like that it changes their personality for the worst and she'll misbehave in other ways. I wonder if you ever met a girl who wasn't exposed to mainstream culture, or seen porn, or been sexually influenced. Really most girls are not inherently sexual. My husband believes why women leave their men is that since women are biologically wired to have frequent pregnancies they start desiring a new man if they aren't having frequent pregnancies. Subconsciously, they think the man is sterile, so they look for someone new. My husband says men cannot misuse our women so that they can have consequence-free sex, and then get angry at them and blame them when they are all screwed up. I don't believe the majority of men can or want to have a traditional woman. Because traditional women don't want to do the weird sex acts they watch in porn, and they want to have a lot of babies that most men probably can't handle supporting and don't want to have. I love my husband, in part because I have been pregnant and nursing infants the entire marriage and he's never made me put an end to that like most men would. The answer to all of it is to go back to small town living, and get rid of or at least drastically reduce the availability of birth control and the antibiotics that cure the STDs because those are the things allowing people to act with no consequences. Please PM me if you like English or Irish girls and small town living I can help you best as I can, if you are a nice person and sincere.
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And you don't need the state to change the laws to have a successful traditional life, depends on how badly you want it, you need to live where survival is difficult imo and not use birth control. Have a lot of children. There are lots of outport places where there's no municipal government and no police, the rest of the world has kind of given up on them, where people live in anarchy really except its not violent or chaotic or anything, people govern themselves just fine, community puts out their own fires and all those kinds of things, everyone knows each other and its peaceful. When I lived in a big city on the mainland I was upset about the world all the time too, like everyone on here. I thought all women are whores and all men are filthy perverts. You can choose to live away from all that if you want it badly enough. Really why do white nationalists nowadays talk against traditionalism? Back when I was part of it everyone was pro-traditionalism.
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Appreciate your input Breanna, yet please understand that your point of reference is quite specific.
Based upon what you write, I reckon you likely are referring to Nova Scotia or Newfoundland, etc. something like this? or perhaps Alaska maybe. That's quite a unique situation. Few points to consider: the FAR majority of women the average American Man is exposed to do not reside in any location similar to where evidently you are. Not disparaging, just saying...mainland ? most of us are on a Mainland somewhere. Also, please don't take this personally, yet the far majority of women are hardcore jewdified and conditioned (& many/most Men too) to embrace materialism, consumerism, peer approval, multiculturalism (to varying degrees or to at least parrot it and all the tired cliche concepts forced fed to everyone via mass media) and candidly, rarely are ever happy as their day to day lives revolve around the mass media brainwashing that we all are faced with. As for sex : Women are VERY hyper sexual - not quite sure where you may think they are no interested in sex is coming from. perhaps the women in your area are too busy trying to survive or eke out a good living in a harsh environment. Women are also not loyal. sorry, just the way the far majority of them are. Family courts? total government approved arena to destroy men and profit off the destruction. hell hath no fury like a woman scorned (or one who thinks she has been scorned) We could discuss this topic more, yet the sad reality is that the far majority of 'mainland' females are cunts. The mass media and family courts are just enabling and exploiting the worst aspects of them. Yes, there are some good quality females out there, yet very few and due to many reasons, women have turned against men and this is not always conscious. It's to this level the brainwashing has been accomplished. |
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Many MGTOWs are only a hair's breath away from becoming jew wise. It's only a matter of making the connection for them between the creation of the white whore monsters they've come to despise and the creator of those monsters, the jew. The MGTOWs need to be told feminism is a jewish invention purposely created to steal their women away from them. They need that piece of the puzzle. Having said this, I firmly believe many self-appointed spokesmen in the MGTOW movement are with the jew. And they make sure to focus the MGTOW anger on feminism or some other red herring. And furthermore, IMO the jew's vested interest in MGTOW is that it effectively reduces the potential for white babies to be born. The jew must also be aware the MGTOWs are free thinkers to some degree and for that the MGTOWs must be watched closely. And I suspect this sort of predictable paranoid tendency of the jew would put that trucker on the kike's radar. I make it a point to visit MGTOW YouTube comment sections and drop seeds every once in a while. Fuck the jew!
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I'm not saying that makes it ok, it doesn't, I would just like to explain the motivations behind the behaviour, because I think a lot of men assume women are intrinsically sexual like themselves and act slutty just for physical pleasure, when that isn't the case. To fix the problem, the motivation for the people causing the problem is important to consider. Unfortunately for those who are single, most wholesome people pair off when they are very young. Young women who value family, monogamy, chastity, sexual fidelity, and so on tend to get into a relationship early, and stay in the relationship. And the young man they choose is a person like themselves, a young man who isn't interested in sleeping around but, like them, wants to have a family. They met while they were still in school, played together as children, lost their virginities together, and so on. Because these women aren't out in society and aren't seen, because they've never been available, men think they don't exist and that all women are bad. Once the people who value having a family are after leaving the dating market, what's left are the men and women who were interested in sleeping around and having fun instead of having a family, and they are the matches left for each other. I'm not speaking for all single men that want families, but a lot of the men into the red pill stuff are men who wanted to sleep around and have fun and are upset they can't now quit that and find a nice girl. The thing is that chaste wholesome girls aren't attracted to men like that, they're attracted to chaste wholesome young men. So those red pill men could have likely had a marriage and family with a nice girl if they themselves passed on the sleeping around and instead got into a relationship with a young girl when they themselves were 14 or 15 or so, and stayed in that relationship, but because they didn't, they are now seeing women in the dating market who are exactly like them. Women after wanting to sleep around instead of having a long-term relationship, and those women are exactly the same as them and are their perfect matches really. Even though women are more easily damaged by casual sex than men are, I know that wholesome girls see men that sleep around as damaged goods and not worthy of consideration the same way men views women that sleep around. I'm not speaking for all single men that want families, but a good many of them I suspect are exactly as I have described.
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Literally not one thing matters LEGALLY except the woman's feelings. Not one thing. That's the LEGAL reality. The rest is a bunch of shoulds, and they dont matter. Quote:
You can build a family today, but it's exactly like building on the beach. Any storm can take you out. The man has no LEGAL power over his own family or property, once he gets involved to the extent of having a woman in his house. Quote:
Traditionalists join hands with feminists in blaming men for everything - holding men responsible for women's bad decisions. Women should have NO power whatsoever. We must go forward to women being property of men again. That's the only system in which the family is safe. A man can't reasonably & safely form a family when its basis - his responsibility and power over it - can be removed from one day to the next based on whims of a woman - member of a sex notable not for stability and far-seeing wisdom but for the opposite! - being fickle and easily influenced by transient feelings - and we know where the (((influences))) come from. Last edited by Alex Linder; December 10th, 2018 at 12:33 PM. |
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I hope you'll understand that I can't take half of my husband's stuff in a place like this where people have nothing, there is nothing to take. Take half of what? Half of the moose in the deep freezer? Would women go to court over that? I agree completely with everything said that the system shouldn't be that way, but Ill always be discouraging people from giving up because of it and I'll all the time be arguing them when they say it's impossible to have a happy family until the system is overthrown. I am never understanding the logic of a woman divorcing a man in order to be taking half of his stuff. Surely while they are together she is enjoying his prosperity, and likely more than half of it? Likely she is enjoying all of his prosperity in the form of the house they share, the food he provides, and so on? It seems to me if a woman is divorcing a man to take half his stuff, she is having LESS stuff than if she just stayed with him no? Quote:
Surely you would not in earnest be supporting a regime under someone that thinks it's totally ok for girls to get raped, be made sex slaves, as a youth have sex with adult men, and that it's ok for men to be sleeping with nonwhite prostitutes? I know not a father that would not be fighting such thing, not the one who would not be made furious at the thought of such future for his daughters. As terribly wrong as it is that modern women are all the time using men for their own ends just as wrong it is for men to be using women. So what is wrong with going back to traditional life where everyone seemed happy all round? The only reason I am seeing for someone opposing that is that they must be having sadistic feelings and want to take revenge on women, which I can understand (kind of) if the men in question are after being hurt in the past, but the younger girls? Surely they are innocent?
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Herr Linder gets it.
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Dailystormer is satire written by a possible fed and an outed Jew. Does anyone really take that site serious/y?
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Interesting discussion, when i was young we don't talk about these matters.Everything was simple in that time,my dad learn me that a man must take care for the opportunity to a woman in what she is best.Be a mother for her children and take care for the house.
Maybe this is old way,but it works very well.If i look to people/families this day,it's one big bunch of idiots who walk hard to put their nose in jewish ass. |
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The family courts should just be completely and totally abolished, who in the hell's business is any of it excepting the family themselves? Why must government stick its nose in and why can families not manage their disagreements within themselves?
I think this along with what I mentioned above about birth control and STD medications being unavailable, and people living in small groups rather than huge cities, would solve most of these problems on their own. Where I live men can't use women for sex because every single woman he knows is either his relative, or a relative or mate or former mate of one of his friends. And women cannot screw over men likewise because every man she knows is related to her, or related to or in a relationship with one of her friends. The lack of promiscuity is not ideological it is pragmatic because promiscuity creates discord in a close-knit social group. With all due respect Mr. Linder I have a strong opinion that (and I may be wrong here though I don't believe I am) female modesty and chastity was always policed not by male force, but by gossipy old ladies. Which is a good thing to be sure and I believe red pill men neglect all the good that grandmothers do when they condemn all women as being evil and useless.
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That's not to tell anyone what he should do, it's to make clear the risks so that he goes in with his eyes open. THAT is the point of MGTOW. Quote:
All women talk like you do. But when it comes down to it, they are very well aware of the actual legal situation. And so are the bitter middle-aged hags who have ruined many a marriage by putting poison in their daughters or daughter-in-law's or coworker's ears. You're underestimating how many women who get their fee fees hurt for this or that reason would do anything to punish the man, they dont care about the effect on themselves or the children. All that matters is their feeling of vindictiveness and using the courts to damage the man. Quote:
Your comments about men are beside the point, which is the laws AS THEY STAND TODAY. A man can have a bad character in every way - the law doesn't support him. But it does support the woman with the bad character. Quote:
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Artificial wombs have already nourished lambs. They will soon go into experimental use on premature human babies.
Robotics, AI, and synthetic materials will soon be able to create an artificial tradwife that's indistinguishable from a real woman -- aside from it actually being loyal. A man will be able to procure a donor egg and have his own child grown in one of these things. It will care for the newborn baby, cook and clean the house, and fuck him. Then these spoiled, vain, selfish, hypergamous vagina niggers (women) will find themselves in unenviable positions. No one will even need them, let alone be willing to put up with their bullshit.
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Alex, you need to write a whole article about this issue. White men DO NOT understand the true nature of women today. One interesting fact: women are very vengeful compared to men. When a man gets into a physical fight with another man, 3 days later, they are best friends. The hatchet is buried. But when a woman gets into a physical fight with another woman, she will never be friends with that woman, ever. No way. She'll go out of her way to sabotage that woman. White men need UNDERSTANDING of women today. They need it badly. Help them, Alex. ------------------- |
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Sometimes, one of them ends up in a tank full of dermestid beetles for a few days, then having his bones and teeth pulverised.
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