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Fred, some of the most fervent believers and leaders in real, live nationalist organisations and parties were socialists, as their history shows and they themselves say.
Vlaams Belang which are the Dutch nationalists in Belgium who are splitting Belgium apart, were once composed almost entirely of ex nazis, the real ones, not the costumed actors and clowns in the US. They found NS didn't work, so focused upon the national part of national socialism, dropped the socialist part, and today are in the process of seceding from the French part of Belgium, taking one of the richest areas in Europe with them. I don't believe that religion is the ultimate answer to saving our race, and believe that living in line with the laws of nature is, but certainly fighting religion just gets peoples killed, and doesn't get anyone anywhere, in real life. Religion is simply a formalised pathway for those seeking spirituality. [QUOTE] They all claim to be Christians, do they not? They all claim to be based on the teachings of Jesus, who they all believe to be the son of God. [QUOTE/] The denominations are based on the interpretation of the teachings by the various founders of the denominations, a very different thing. The original bible was created in Byzantium, and formed the core of the Byzantine religion, which morphed into the greek and russian orthodox religions today, quite different from Catholicism, which in turn is quite different to most Protestant religions, apart from Anglicanism. They even use different bibles. It kept the roman empire in the east going for over a thousand years after the western half fell, against all manner of invaders, which Rome never had to contend with till the end of Italian Rome, and when it did, it collapsed. It was then recreated by German Roman Catholics. Catholicism and Anglicanism are mostly based upon the writings of Romans interpreting the texts, not the texts as they stand. Most have around a hundred or two quotes or stories from the NT usually that they use to illustrate points. The actual beliefs and behaviours are based upon verbal instructions and sermons passed down. It's no different to politics. Members of and voters for political parties base their support on what is said, by who, and how it's presented, not what is actually written. I have yet to encounter any political or religious figure who paid more than lip service to written documents. They do what they think, and what their supporters want, and couldn't care less what someone else wrote. That's why arguments against Christianity based on the bible always fail, since its not based upon the bible. The word "bible" is a vague, all encompassing, catchall concept, rather like politicians burble on about laws and constitutions, or evolutionists talk about science. People grasp onto a couple phrases and ideas that make sense to them in their situation, and go with that. [QUOTE] You seem to be saying here that Jesus was not a historical figure but was rather a composite figure from various religious mythologies. That is what we so called "atheists" have been saying. So I don't quite understand your problem with it. [QUOTE/] Not seem to, I am saying it. I don't have a problem with it. As if any Jew would even consider self sacrificing themselves for humanity. It is whatever the priests say it is. A very different thing. Sooner or later, you'll find shouting into cyberspace loses its appeal. Once you move out into politics and registered NGOs etc, you'll find Christians involved at every level. Then what? [QUOTE] Does the xtian bible contain the OT and the NT? I am not sure what point you are trying to make here. It really doesn't matter who wrote exactly what of the xtian bible, what does matter is what the bible says. And that matters because all the xtian sects claim to be based on what is in the bible. [QUOTE/] Christianity is based upon phrases out of and interpretations of the new testament, not the old testament, and very very few have ever read it. The lifestyles, practice and beliefs in no way shape or form resemble that described in the OT, and few of the precepts, and central ideas behind christianity are based upon the NT. They do however resemble very closely those of Rome. It matters a great deal who wrote the texts. The OT is based upon the beliefs of Sumerians and Babylonians, filtered by the peoples they later mongrelized into, Arabs and Asians. The NT is based upon the beliefs current in Rome and Byzantium at the time. Both have the zodiac and cardinal compass points, as well as solar, lunar and stellar religions for their core and structure. Behind both the OT and the NT, seems to lie a vastly older, unified religion, that once encompassed them both. One can't help but wonder what it was that drove our people to build pyramids, the stone circles etc. [QUOTE] Xtianity is actively working against us, not with us. That is part of the problem with it. The other part of the problem with it is it's teachings. They are not true. [QUOTE/] It's not working against us. It wants nothing to do with us, and is trying to separate from us, looking after it's own, and gradually stopping trying to look after those who oppose it. Most traditional Christians lead highly moral, productive lives, with large healthy families. [QUOTE] Sigh! It is hard to discuss evolution with people who don't even know what it is. Evolution, for your information, is not concerned with the beginnings of the universe. Or even the beginning of life. It is concerned with the process by which life changes, by inherited traits, from one form to another through either natural selection or genetic drift. It can be thought of as a method of creation. If you wish you may even think of it as the method by which a god has created life as we currently know it from earlier forms. Evolution does not directly concern itself with the beginning of life, which is the field of abiogenesis, the study of how life arises from inorganic matter. [QUOTE/] There is micro evolution, which is how birds beaks change, how skin and feather colours change etc. Then there is macro evolution, which is how it all started, the origins of the laws of nature, of the first living things, which are claimed to be single celled organisms. Except there's just one problem. The constituent parts of single celled organisms cannot exist independently, so have to have all developed independently yet in co-operation within one organism, and all functioned perfectly, at the same time. NASA refers to the evolution of the universe, so yes, evolution also refers to the origins of the universe. [QUOTE] That is of course a separate matter from the beginning of the universe itself. Nothing about a belief in evolution requires a belief that the universe arose from nothing, and I doubt if many scientists believe that. Most believe in something like the big bang theory. If you want to posit a god behind that, feel free. But if there is a god behind it, something like the big bang is how he did it. [QUOTE/] How so? The origins of life need to go back to the origins of how life started. NASA believes everything emerged from essentially nothing which became light, which then somehow gained mass, and will return to nothing, so yes, that's the official line. I don't see any conflict between evolution and creation and someone or something that created it, just because people have personified the creative and destructive forces that exist. [QUOTE] Dust forms into sand, then rocks, then larger masses because of gravitational attraction. Once it reaches a certain mass it is capable of the sustained nuclear reactions of stars. If you want to put a god in charge of that, have at it. Just don't try to ignore the basic scientific principles behind it because ignoring gravity can get one hurt. [QUOTE/] Except that it doesn't. The meteors, comets and asteroids are breaking up as they collide and move, not growing in size, in direct contradiction to the official scientific thinking. Further, according to NASA most stars were formed out of gasses. The gasses heat up as they come together, that is known. After they supernova, there are many that have become a kind of rock. There aren't any in the process of going from rock to star that I've heard of. Earth would then logically either have once been gas, then a star, or be turning into a star if rock turns into stars, except that it wasn't and isn't. [QUOTE] You see rocks breaking down into sand and then dust because they are acted upon by various forces of erosion, such as wind or water, freezing or heat. That doesn't negate gravity. [QUOTE/] Erosion and friction occurs in space, when they collide against and rub against each other. That's why asteriods are becoming smaller, not larger. [QUOTE] They rest of us share an ANCESTOR with all current plants. We share DNA with plants. That indicates a shared ancestor. If you are so determined to doubt basic science I would like to suggest that perhaps you should quit using computers and cell phones and other products of science because after all, what do them atheist scientists know anyway. [QUOTE/] So seaweed evolved into fish? There is no record today of half rock half plants, or half plant/half fish creatures. To me it indicates a shared basic design fundamental and essential to all living creatures, not that they evolved from each other. Did worms evolve from bananas? Logic dictates that since there is no record of plants turning into plankton, fish and insects, they didn't.
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I noticed someone posted of a video of 'the blues brothers', as if that had something to do with Christianity.
I was reading some of this book, 'Race, Rock and Elvis" on google books. Race, Rock and Elvis This books really shows how the Jew promoted nigger concerts of Fats Domino and Otis Reading and a whole legion of black musicians to really lure in the stupid white teenage girls, who would glady forsake 1000 years of the earth's greatest civilization for a cute nursery rhyme ditty. One thing I have noticed, there is a 'stealth' christianity, unnoticed by many, a common christ theme in many of the movies and music the Jews produce. The Jews are actually, secretly pushing Christian mind control is many of the movies we think of as secular. Just look at the lyrics to this song by Kesha. Quote:
LadyGaga claims she writes her songs for Jesus, well, this is actually true, she's actually promoting a secret kind of secret Christianity, which is what Freemasonry really is. Her song, Paparazzi, is really about Jesus, PapaRazzi is what they call the Pope in Italy, Papa Ratzinger, so she's singing a song about the metaphorical head of the Christian Church, Jesus himself. Soooo many rock musicians are really writing songs with allusions to Christianity and christ, from the soft, effeminate melodies of girl bands to the hardest rock and gangster rap, it's all part of the same mind control matrix that has existed for a thousand years, it's part of that same spell of witchcraft. The worship of Mary, or Madonna, is part of the Christ cult, in the Catholic church, and you will notice many subtle references to this religion of the female, this worship of the Mother Figure, and linking it to Jesus, the Jew, identifying one's subconcious feelings for one's mother with a love of the Jew. Who is the biggest whore of all time in rock? MADONNA, her name is ACTUALLY MADONNA. But there are many other songs, they just take melodies and rewrite the words, to fit the spell. Soul Sister, by Train Quote:
I've noticed this over and over, in so many songs and movies, it seems to sick and weird to be real, but after you make enough connections, you realize, it HAS to be real, and you realize, there is some sort of deep, spell being cast on these people, because this Mary worship is very ancient, people hallucinating, seeing miracles that Mary has performed. The song "maria' by Blondie, Quote:
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My point to all the above rambling is, there is a depth and complexity to Christianity that people do not understand. If the spell has not been cast upon you, you may not be considered worth the time or effort. Most of our leaders are usually the object of this satanic witchcraft, our superstars. the public almost never hears the sane, rational objections to the Christian voodoo magic. Objection to Christianity is portrayed in movies like The Exorcist. And that's exactly how Christians feel about intense objections to their religion, you are simply the Devil. It's important that you understand that, because you are dealing with insane, REAL power. millions of people were tortured for being witches, by the Christians. It seemed logical to them, to torture you. They feel the most intense, fear and dread for you, you could ever imagine. You are the BAD guy. That is all they know, that is the extent of their rational mind, the extent the spell allows their mind to perceive. you give them an irrational feeling of evil they have never imagined before.
Anyways, just saying, you protestors of christianity, may not respect the forces you are dealing with. It is not simply a matter of logic, is a matter of the magic, and the power one mind can exert over weaker minds. And if the Devil wanted you, he could probably have you, the Devil needs opposition, though, it furthers his cause, to have people opposing his Cult, especially when they are rabid about it, because Fear is an emotion the Devil manipulates with the wisdom of a million year old Serpent. Mainstream culture is satanic and evil, but it is really secret Christianity. And there is an army of unconscious followers. They are under it's spell, they will do it's will, upon command. |
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what's really weird is, once you start putting these pieces together, all these popular songs, with the cryptic lyrics, you suddenly realize what they all mean, they are all interwoven in a tapestry of awesome, powerful suggestion.
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do you bob like a chickenhead when you pray?
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Do you take yourself so seriously that you actually believe yourself to be the wisest of gurus, and an all knowing oracle? Do you honestly believe that all you spew is holy writ simply by virtue of the fact that it issued from your cakehole? Is to question you an offense to GAWD and an assault on his boy, 'boo? Can you answer any of these question in an honest and forthright manner without blowing your own ram's horn?
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Communism was really Christianity, revealed, or RE-veiled, a complex system of mysteries and esoteric jibberish only the 'developed' mind could understand, but it is the same Demon, in a different form.
Also, I'm not trying to say you should be afraid.. Oh , it wants you to be afraid. It wants you to, in fact, feel sheer terror, it feeds off of those emotions. Have you ever felt, the feeling of power, when someone is afraid of you? A kind of energy drains from that person, into you. I fills your capillaries, it fills you with life, the sensation of being alive, dominant, sexual, worthy. the feeling of fear and terror that whites give to Blacks, actually makes them physically stronger. It envigorates them, sexually. you are showing submission, acknowledgement of their superiority. It is a scientific fact, that these behaviors cause the dominant male of any species, to secrete testosterone, to develop sexually. It's called "psychosomatic agency" In this video, they say "psychosomatic, addict insane" which sounds like 'psychosomatic agency', but the two phrases are connected in meaning. Basicly, people become addicted the feeling of making people afraid, they become addicted to the rush, that instilling terror gives them. When you look at the lengths, that every government on earth goes to, to instill fear in the populace, or their own people, or other nations, building nuclear weapons, etc, what I am saying should become obvious after very little thought on the subject. so we have a situation, where blacks have become so addicted to the sexual feeling of terrorizing pathetic, cowering whites, that they are always looking for a new excuse to threaten them, over use of words they don't like, maybe a sideways look, maybe a gesture that seems racist. In the words of Judas Priest, Quote:
Songs like this one, have very distinct backwards messages, that the singers and bands themselves are completely unconscious of. I don't know how one could more clearly prove they are demon possessed, than for their songs to say things backwards in them, without their knowledge. |
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Anyone else notice that cult is part of culture?
[Latin cultus, worship, from past participle of colere, to cultivate; see kwel-1 in Indo-European roots.] |
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I read a book by Gore Vidal, where he says Christianity is the worship of Death. I forget the name of the book, maybe it was Messiah. I forget the whole explanation, though.
Possibly Warrior cultures worship death more, one could argue, since you have a chance of dying in wars. There is no freedom without war, though, life without freedom is worse than death. Some say War is driven by the desire to kill, and be killed, it is a ritual worship and celebration of death. Christianity is certainly not a war culture. |
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Many of the best songs, the popular songs, strike a chord with our christ complex, just take the above video, notice the clearly christian references in the lyrics. Quote:
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Of course, if you identify with Jesus, then you make the next conclusion, that maybe you are King of the Jews. Well, who will you serve with the most intense devotion? the people who recognize your greatness, who appreciate it. You will serve them with a devotion that nears perfection. there's a scene in the movie, The Devil's Advocate, where Al Pacino is giving a speech to Keanu Reeves, about "250 million people who think they're God", it was a pretty good movie, I thought, but these movies are very popular sometimes because they deal what is both FANTASTIC, and REAL. You can make a movie about the fantastic, the improbable, but if people don't relate to it, because there's nothing real about it, it's not a great movie. |
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Another poster made a comment earlier along the lines of there is more religion to be found from a walk in the woods than from all the churches in the world. That is true. And it drives you wannabe gurus nuts. Bilbo, you are nuts. Of course that rational assessment of your psychological condition will roll off of you like water off of a duck's back, you will just dismiss it as more atheism and go about your merry way plotting your kingdom of god. Fortunately most of you clowns are way too stupid to influence many (in your case any) people. When you do it is usually people like the crowd at Jonestown. Quote:
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Why don't you cite some of YOUR vast religious knowledge? So far all we have managed to get out of you is that you somehow have all this great knowledge but you never share any of it. I have repeatedly challenged you christers to share with us just what it is you believe makes xtianity in any way essential to Whites. Give us some specific doctrines or teachings that you think are essential, not just generalities. We "atheists" have furnished you with many examples of the lies and insanity that makes xtianity unsuited as a religion for Whites and actually make it dangerous to the preservation and advancement of our race. You don't even attempt to refute our charges, all you do is call us atheists. In the banjo world anyone who doesn't agree with him is an atheist. You are nuts. Quote:
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Most young whites of Today want a strong, powerful religion, their prophets are the likes Niggers with Attitude, N.W.A, that is today's generation's religion. It's basically a rejection of weak Christianity, because Christianity doesn't work, in niggerworld.
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Here's a murder rap to keep yo dancin with a crime record like Charles Manson When niggers murder a bunch of people, it's super cool, when Charles Manson does it, it's spooky, bizarre, supernaturally evil. But how can whites, hold two completely different feelings, about the act of murder, the idea that when blacks do it, it makes them really hip and cool, when whites do it, it is awful and horrifying? Will whites ever make it cool and hip to murder blacks? will they write catchy songs about it? No, because they are sexless women, a bunch of fags and faggot sympathizers. They will trample eachother in a mad dash to hand their cash over to their negro athlete heroes convicts. To see these big dumb, brawny fags worshipping nigger athletes shows masculinity isn't about being a big, mindless piece of meat. Jews hardly ever accomplish anything in athletics, yet the world is their bitch, because they control the money, because they are organized, intelligent, sneaky, conniving and aggressive. I would have to say they are very masculine. |
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Someone should write a book,
Don Juan banjo billy: A Quacky Way of Knowledge Howz dat fer a title! (btw, bb, do you like professional wrestlers?)
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Trust me, Billyboy, the jews will be taken care of BUT then the christians will get what they have coming too. The christ-tards will start thinking racially and realistically or they will be destroyed. The choice will be theirs in the end. Once eradicated that kike religion will never be allowed to rise again.
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Hey, Steve,
Doesn't he sort of remind you of an old VNN pal? A certain canard of a suave and debonair bearing.
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What is fascinating is that there are Christians like Banjo Billy in this modern age, still falling for the ancient jewish drug cult, without the use of drugs.
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Part of the secret Christian religion is teaching white males how to become homosexuals, or eunuch's for 'God', eunuch's for the Jew. It began with 'glam rock' or homosexual rock. White rock n' roll has been a way to turn homosexuals into rock stars, songs about love, while black rap stars are super masculine, all about raping and killing without mercy or feeling.
Rap music teaches this black generation how to kill whitey with joy in their ugly faces, and a song in their hearts. when they really do it, it still doesn't phase whitey. Incredible, that people do not riot when blacks distrubute this music, yet blacks will riot if a white leader doesn't stick his pinky out far enough when sipping tea. Blacks are being taught to massacre whites, whites are being taught how to be massacred. It's plain and simple. All rich whites want to give their money to poor negros, because they want to appease them, they believe they will not be killed if they give them money. |
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Jesus was a mushroom and his followers are mushheads....
It is my opinion, after looking into the origins of Christianity, that Jesus was nothing more than a psychedelic mushroom, who's life story was patterned after the live of Julius Ceasar, and the battle campaigns of Titus, when the Jews needed to give him a life story in the second century.
I am not going to re-create some 30 posts here on this thread, go to this link to see the "crucification" of Caesar, years before the magic jesus was made up. http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=121609 Over heard in 265CE, "Hail Caesar, and pass the 'shrooms....opps, I meant Praise Jeebus." Last edited by SmokyMtn; February 13th, 2011 at 07:44 PM. |
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