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Old November 9th, 2010 #1
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By Yggdrasil

Why The Occidental Quarterly Exists

We fear for the future of our grandchildren in America.

What We Fear:

•Relentless policies in pursuit of cheap labor resulting in:
◦Falling living standards for our children and grandchildren.
◦Increasing costs of welfare as low wages cause millions to opt for leisure over work.
•Relentless demonizing of White Americans resulting in:
◦Ideological justification for racially motivated attacks and ethnic cleansing of neighborhoods.
◦Block voting in favor of tax, welfare and preference policies burdening Whites.
•Relentless media stereotyping of White Americans resulting in:
◦Conditioning competing racial groups to think successful White business men are criminals.
◦Conditioning Whites to think of themselves as lazy and stupid, thus accepting their subordinate status in our “multicultural” society.
•Relentless discrimination against White Americans based on skin color resulting in:
◦Talented white children earning less valuable college degrees from less prestigious universities.
◦Talented whites relegated to lower paying jobs than they would qualify for if their skin were a different color.
•If discrimination is this pervasive while we are a majority, how severe will the consequences be when our children and grandchildren are minorities?
◦What is the probability that the escalating demands for racial demonizing, collective punishment and reparations will decrease once Whites fall to minority status?
◦Are there any reasons for optimism on this front?

What We Deserve:
•A halt to widespread discrimination based on the color of our skin.
◦Admission to Colleges based solely on objective academic performance and test results with the same standards applied to all skin colors.
◦Hiring based on objective tests and performance criteria applied equally to all skin colors.
•A halt to the relentless drive for cheap labor.
◦Stop the outsourcing of American jobs to Asia.
◦Stop immigration as long as unemployment exceeds 5% of the work force.
◦Stop issuance of H1b work visas for technical jobs.
◦Decrease immigration and cut welfare benefits so that Americans will take available jobs, limiting the demand for illegal immigration and decreasing the welfare burden at the same time.
•A restoration of meaningful democracy.
◦Restore literacy and issue awareness tests for voting.
◦Enforce term limits on all political offices.

What We Can Do:
•Educate our fellow Whites.
◦Ironically, racial justice requires political confrontation – the civilization of conflict.
■We must condition Republican politicians to begin representing the interests of their middle class White constituents rather than Republican businesses seeking to personalize the profits and socialize the costs of cheap labor.
■Given the geographic system of representation in the United States, and the demographic “Big Sort”, Republicans can control Congress for a very long time once they abandon the “big tent” and begin motivating their base.
◦Effective political motivation demands an identifiable “them”.
■Our competing racial groups have an identifiable “them” in their stereotype of the evil and undeserving White man.
■We need our own identifiable “them” which is, of course, those who benefit from the current repression of Whites under the regime of “multiculturalism.”
■Then the trick is to make the “them” apparent to our own people without inflaming and motivating our opponents.
We should not name “them” explicitly. Rather, we advance policies that directly thwart the extractions and benefits “they” get from “us”, thus generating the kind of policy-oriented anger that will motivate and unify “us.”
■Universalist abstractions such as “traditional values” and “lower taxes” do not focus on the identifiable “them”.
■The “big tent” is dead. Get over it!
•Starve the beast!
◦The multicultural regime depends on us being “consumers.”
◦We need to:
■Begin purchasing generic foods and avoiding the brand names which provide advertising revenue to our enemies in the media.
■Stop watching professional sports, thereby denying the media the “eyeballs” upon which their ad revenue depends.
■Cancel our cable subscriptions, thereby depriving television content providers of a vital stream of revenue.
◦If 50% of America’s Whites were to lock up their credit cards for 5 months the system would have no choice but to accede to our demands.
◦Condition our people to avoid the false sensations of evolutionary fitness that the consumer role provides, and to seek instead real sensations of evolutionary fitness produced by:
■In the case of males: a job, a wife, children, no debt and substantial savings and investment.
■In the case of females: a husband, children, job skills that can provide in an emergency, no credit card debt, substantial savings and investment.
◦Exploit the fragility of the “service economy”.
■Wash your own car.
■Mow your own lawn.
■Clean your own house.
■Cook your own meals.
■Select and rent your own entertainment (cancel cable – subscribe to Netflix)
■Save your money.
•Form local associations for mutual aid and support.
◦Identify those with the talent and skills necessary to administer a government.
◦Provide mutual aid and assistance to other members of the group to counteract—to the extent possible—the disabilities imposed on us by multiculturalism.

Yggdrasil is the pen name of the new President of the Charles Martel Society.

http://www.toqonline.com/blog/featured/why-toq-exists/
 
Old November 9th, 2010 #2
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Ultimately, what we fear is the process and consequences of being dispossessed. From the perspective of organized jewry and that of the liberal/non-white coalition, we Whites are to be herded, milked then slaughtered like the goyim-cattle we are. Targeted for destruction through a process of marginalization, psychological conditioning, racial admixture and moral intimidation we are confronting the death of our race, our culture and consequently, our entire civilization. The antidote to this process of dispossession, an antidote which will lead to the girding, reinforcing and perpetuation of our race, culture and toward a civilization of beauty, order and sanity is the doctrine of White Nationalism as espoused by Dr. William L. Pierce.
 
Old November 9th, 2010 #3
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TOQ is just another paleocon outlet. Ignore it or steer TOQ users to sites like VNN and TOQ will fall on its own unsupported weight.
 
Old November 9th, 2010 #4
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That articla just shows once again that a jew is a jew a filthy fucking jew. For those of you that still think that there are some good jews, wake the fuck up idiot.
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Old November 9th, 2010 #5
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Yggdrasil has been around for quite a while, and pretty much covers all the bases. There's no real disagreement as to what the problem is.
It's how to solve it in real life, and deal with real people in real organisations, where there are very real consequences people differ over.

http://www.whitenationalism.com/
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TOQ is a great journal; it is radical and revolutionary in outlook, not conservative!
 
Old November 10th, 2010 #7
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Yggdrasil:

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■Our competing racial groups have an identifiable "them" in their stereotype of the evil and undeserving White man.

■We need our own identifiable "them" which is, of course, those who benefit from the current repression of Whites under the regime of "multiculturalism."

■We should not name "them" explicitly.
So our competing group, the Jews, identify us as White man, but we should not identify the Jew. So the Jews have an ethnic group by naming the Goyim and today the White, but Whites should not name names.

More faleshoods from the person who would rather listen to the Jew Mendelsohn than Bach.

He is focusing on benefit rather than architects.


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Old November 10th, 2010 #8
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Ygg's living in a fantasy world like the rest of them.

We must condition Republican politicians to begin representing the interests of their middle class White constituents

How? This has been preached for forty years, even though it has never come close to working.

A rational man, even if irrationally interested in influencing the Reps rather than destroying and replacing them, as a genuine movement would insist on, would examine who the Reps are influenced by now, then ask how the influencers achieved their result.

Who will deny that Reps are influenced by fear of being racist. So much so they abandoned states rights for MLK communist race-egalitarianism.

So the way to influence Republicans is make them fear your ability to affect their reputation.

Praising them, fawning over them, sucking up to them, as Yggdrasil and Macdonald advise, accomplishes nothing but make the Republicans confident they can continue their cowardice and lying and still get the White vote.

The correct path is to abuse the Republicans, just as the jews do. The jews abuse them as racists. Whites should abuse them as non-racists.
 
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Who will deny that Reps are influenced by fear of being racist. So much so they abandoned states rights for MLK communist race-egalitarianism.
Opposition to the sovereignty of the States is the reason the GOP was instituted in the first place.
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Old November 10th, 2010 #10
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Kevin MacDonald is a great man. There isn't a soul on the website that has contributed more to the struggle for White freedom than KM.
 
Old November 11th, 2010 #11
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Kevin MacDonald is a great man. There isn't a soul on the website that has contributed more to the struggle for White freedom than KM.
If only gigantic scientific dissertations were ever used in history as a means of mobilizing the masses.

Sure. The communist manifesto was written. Mein Kampf was written. Blah blah blah this and that gigantic tome of mindfuckery was written.

But at the end of the day, 95% of those masses that made it happen, did not read those books in full. They just stood up, and said "GET THE FUCK OUT OR DIE!"

It was only common sense in their minds that there was no reason it had to be this way, and that it could, and SHOULD, be a better quality of life for their people.

If only my iPod had a Hitler quote app, I'd dig out the one where he said all movements are based on simplistic popular and emotional messages.

Why? Because most people are on the mental level of children. Their attention span is not suited for Culture of Critique, or Mein Kampf, or Mr. Mordecai's trojan horse.

It's suited for "THE TSAR IS A COCKSUCKER! OPPRESSOR! KILL!"

or

"JEWS ARE THE CAUSE OF *insert shit here*"

or - *ahem* Mel Gibson Voice *cough*

"Tale your Anglish men they won't fook our brides no more!"

And those people that speak the most common sense and clearest truth, the basic emotional obvious conclusion, are the ones who move.

Like that recent podcast someone posted here a week or two ago that had both David Duke and Kevin MacDonald.

Duke's message (the one he is speaking today anyway), moved me and was a lot more effective and alluring to listen to, than MacDonald's, in that interview.

It was similar to the communication difference between Hitler and Rosenberg. One strikes hard with painful emotional imagery - and knows how to use imagery and emotion to move, the other is full of cold, lifeless, sleep-inducing facts, that, while accurate, put people in a state that is counter to a fighting spirit. It puts people in a passive observational spirit against an enemy who is ruthless, and is where they are because of their cultivated abilities in manipulation of emotion (hi Schindler's list, and every other stupid piece of media they sling that is so simple yet so powerful in telling whites why they are horrible).
 
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Kevin MacDonald is a great man. There isn't a soul on the website that has contributed more to the struggle for White freedom than KM.
He is a great man. He is also wrong about some of the most important things, in particular the strategy Whites should pursue.
 
Old November 11th, 2010 #13
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He is a great man. He is also wrong about some of the most important things, in particular the strategy Whites should pursue.
At least we are agreed that KM is a great man. So far as strategy goes, why not multiple strategies reflecting our multiple temperaments?
 
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At least we are agreed that KM is a great man. So far as strategy goes, why not multiple strategies reflecting our multiple temperaments?
Not enough time, money or manpower.
 
Old November 12th, 2010 #15
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Much of this fantasy comes from MacDonald's belief that the Tea Party movement is a case of "implicit whiteness." Apart from the left's racism smear (used on Reagan and so many other non-racists), I think this is as "plastic" as the Freudian ideas MacDonald rightly condemns. How do you validate "implicit whiteness"? For example, if the Beltway GOP nominates Bobby Jindal to the national ticket in 2012 and the TP rejects him, I'd concede that supports MacDonald's theory. But if (as I suspect) they support Jindal, will MacDonald concede that cuts against his theory? Or will he just say it shows how very implicit the whiteness is?
 
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Much of this fantasy comes from MacDonald's belief that the Tea Party movement is a case of "implicit whiteness." Apart from the left's racism smear (used on Reagan and so many other non-racists), I think this is as "plastic" as the Freudian ideas MacDonald rightly condemns. How do you validate "implicit whiteness"? For example, if the Beltway GOP nominates Bobby Jindal to the national ticket in 2012 and the TP rejects him, I'd concede that supports MacDonald's theory. But if (as I suspect) they support Jindal, will MacDonald concede that cuts against his theory? Or will he just say it shows how very implicit the whiteness is?
Yep. Implicit whiteness doesn't really mean anything. KM thinks its good that this or that group is made up of whites; the jew-lefts thinks it bad. But if the people themselves aren't conscious of the fact and understand why it matters, then it's academic.

What must be done is polarize the nation between whites and jews, and this is best done by attacking the conservatives by lumping them in with the 'liberals.'

"We are different - we are the real thing - we are the only ones who understand the problem and have the courage to fight. We are the only ones who CAN win."

Some version of the above is what Whites must do. Trying to influence Republicans only strengthens them, puts them further in the position of power, and is seen by the parties we should be trying to win over as weak. It only strengthens their view that Fox and the Republican Party are serious, and anyone who pitches a line to their (White) right is a dangerous extremist unworthy of anything but being laughed at. Really, contra Jack Toot and the other fools, appealing to people is entirely the wrong mindset. We should be demonstrating that we are different, we are capable, we are serious, and we are radically, revolutionarily different from the DC happy-sad clowns.
 
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Much of this fantasy comes from MacDonald's belief that the Tea Party movement is a case of "implicit whiteness." Apart from the left's racism smear (used on Reagan and so many other non-racists), I think this is as "plastic" as the Freudian ideas MacDonald rightly condemns.
These are what is relevant about the Tea Party:

- its members are almost all white
- this fact is seen and noticed by the left, which hates whites and makes no secret of it, resulting in continual racial and other abuse (tea-baggers, etc)
- the TP leaders are ideologically against race importance
- the TP followers show zero willingness to buck a system, since they forgo a strong-point racial cry for separation in favor of a puling for lower taxes
- the tacit agreement here might be overtly expressed like this:

says the left to the right: we will allow you to protest in favor of your own economic interests without destroying your reputation, but in no other way. you will never be allowed to defend yourself racially, which we recognize, if you do not, is the obvious thing you have in common, and the only even potentially effective way to defend youself, since you have nothing in common with us and hardly need us to exist, in fact quite the reverse. we the lying/murdering jews and sponging minorities need you, but we will continue to abuse any of you who figure that out, so be content to whine selfishly about lower taxes, but any other attempted racial defense (racial defense is redundant as the only kind of defense that works is racial) and we will utterly destroy your reputations and careers and even lives, as we have done to so many before you. better is that you accept your life and lot as economic helots to the new nigger (jew) overlords and be grateful we dont murder you all physically yesterday the way we assassinate your reputation around the clock in our media and through the institutions we control today.

So instead of kibitzing the libertarian games, KM or any White with a brain should be saying what i've said above - competing for leadership, not trying to influence people who are either gutless, stupid, or ideologically opposed to racial defense.

What it ultimately comes back to, comes down to, every single time, as the Steele railroading shows, nothing will change until we develop a physical response to our oppressors. How clear do they have to make it that they don't give a fig for the law, they will use any means to destroy our people? and since the media and the courts and the bureacracies are full of their people, they can act illegally with essential impunity. They have proved this 1,000x over yet the MacDonalds of the world never acknowledge it. out of fear or stupidity they keep on acting like it is our behavior that is causing our failure, we just aren't leveraging the system correctly. No, no, no, no, no. We are failing because we are being attacked and defeated by the enemy. Mostly by illegal means.

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This strategy just encourages conservatives and liberals to come together in opposition to WN. I monitor Free Republic (was banned long ago) because it is a good nexus for news articles. Sometimes I read the comments, and it is readily apparent that a good many "freepers" are indeed "implicitly white", but they are also on-the-fence, for whatever reason, probably job security. What is to be gained by attacking these people? I doubt they come and join us as a result of being attacked by us. We want them to join us, and trust someday soon circumstances will throw them into our ranks.

The argument currently is that there are two groups within our ranks, the "vanguardists" and the "main-streamers", and supposedly these two groupings are at odds, and some of us are at odds, but there is also a middle ground, where each group tolerates the other, i.e. doesn't attack the other group, and we both do our own thing, with the ultimate objective in mind: a Whites-only living space, call it the White Republic, or call it something else.

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This strategy just encourages conservatives and liberals to come together in opposition to WN.

I get what you are saying, but aren't conservatives already against WN?

I watched Abe Foxman on FOX this morning shilling for his new book "Jews & Money."

The way they were fawning over that repulsive toad and all things kosher was sickening.
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Anyone who even thinks that your average white conservative thinks there is anything remotely wrong with jews is just fooling himself or herself. Just listen to Hannity or Boortz or any of those radio nitwits who conservatives line up behind, and they have NO CLUE about what jews have done or are doing to Whites.

I've talked to Linder about what needs to be done and here it is: Before anything will change in this country, there must be a group of Whites who will stand up to the media jews vocally and in public, and answer every single comment, article, news story, etc. that is put out there by the jews. That is the only way your average white conservative will ever see what is being to his/her race. The truth must be right there in front of White people, day in and day out.

Posting on the internet is not going to get the job done either. It must occur in real life.

How do you do that? Especially when the news media is controlled, owned, and written by jews? Well, there needs to be White groups for each geographical region, probably each state, that have regular meetings. There needs to be White people willing to stand on street corners holding signs, handing out leaflets, putting up billboards, talking to groups when they are asked, etc.

In other words, there must be White people who are available 24/7/365 days a year, who do not have to work for a living, or worry about paying bills, etc. Their entire lives must be geared to educating the stupid masses of White people who are clueless right now.

Even if this is done, there is no guarantee that things will turn out for Whites in this country. But, if nothing is done, we can pretty much guarantee that nothing will turn out right for Whites.

Whites must be shown, day after day, how their lives have been and are being ruined by jews and niggers and their ilk. There must be Whites who are willing to risk life and limb to get this message across.

Now, how many Whites are able/willing to do this?
 
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