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Old May 11th, 2016 #21
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Privet Alex--I hope you don't mind I posted this. It's not Soviet of course, but Tsarist Russian from World War I. Ilya Muromets, or Sikorsky S-22, the world's first heavy bomber. Designed by Igor Sikorsky, who later emigrated to the US and founded Sikorsky Aircraft, most well-known for building helicopters.

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Old May 12th, 2016 #22
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Privet Alex--I hope you don't mind I posted this. It's not Soviet of course, but Tsarist Russian from World War I. Ilya Muromets, or Sikorsky S-22, the world's first heavy bomber. Designed by Igor Sikorsky, who later emigrated to the US and founded Sikorsky Aircraft, most well-known for building helicopters.
Hello Ray!
Of course, I don't mind.

Cartoons about man (no heavy bomber) Ilya Muromets is here - http://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=1948718&postcount=31
 
Old May 12th, 2016 #23
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Hello Ray!
Of course, I don't mind.

Cartoons about man (no heavy bomber) Ilya Muromets is here - http://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=1948718&postcount=31
Yeah, I read that thread. Did IM really knock all the church steeples in Kiev down because he was angry at Prince Vladimir?

Interesting there are two Tu-160 bombers in the modern Russian Air Force, RF-94103--Igor Sikorsky and RF-94105--Ilya Muromets.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/295042312...-Attack-Tu-160
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Old May 13th, 2016 #24
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Did IM really knock all the church steeples in Kiev down because he was angry at Prince Vladimir?
It was really (in fairytale)
Ilya knocked down steeples of the palace of Prince Vladimir by arrows.


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Interesting there are two Tu-160 bombers in the modern Russian Air Force, RF-94103--Igor Sikorsky and RF-94105--Ilya Muromets.
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Cinema-Week №1 (1918)



0:05 - "№1. 20 Мая 1918 г."="№1. May 20, 1918"

0:09 - "К столетию со дня рождения Карла Маркса. Юбилейная колесница московского союза металлистов."="On the centenary of the birth of Karl Marx. Jubilee car of Moscow Union of Metalworkers."

0:32 - "Председатель Совета Народных Комиссаров - тов[арищ] Ленин."="Chairman of the Council of People's Commissars - сomrade Lenin."

0:50 - "Народный комиссар по военным делам Л. Троцкий принимает парад."="People's Commissar for Military Affairs - L. Trotsky greets members of parade."

2:00 - "Орша. Возвращение беженцев в оккупированные германцами губернии."="Orsha. Refugees returning to the provinces occupied by the Germans."

2:07 - "Беженский пункт на демаркационной линии."="Point for refugees is on the demarcation line."

2:19 - "Очередь за получением пропусков."="The queue is for obtaining permits."

2:30 - "В Орше граница между русским и германским расположениями проходит через ж[елезно]-д[орожный] вокзал."="The border between Russian and German posts pass through train station in Orsha."

3:06 - "Переговоры между русской и германской властями."="Negotiations is between the Russian and the German authorities."

3:23 - "Вследствие недостатка подвижного состава, беженцам приходится неделями дожидаться отправки на родину."="Refugees have to wait for weeks to send back home by lack of trains."

3:42 - "Москва, 9 мая. Дело Дыбенко в революционном трибунале."="Moscow, May 9. Dybenko's case is in the revolutionary tribunal."

3:45 - "трибунал"="tribunal"

4:03 - "Председатель трибунала - Берман."="Chairman of tribunal is Berman."

4:16 - "Защитники тов[арищи] Штейнберг и Егоров."="Advocates are comrades Steinberg and Egorov."

4:32 - "Обвинитель тов[арищ] Крыленко."="Prosecutor is comrade Krylenko."

4:45 - "Бывший Народный Комиссар Павел Дыбенко, обвиняемый."="Accused is former People's Commissar - Pavel Dybenko."

5:06 - "Дыбенко под Нарвой."="Dybenko near Narva."

5:13 - "Курск. Народный комиссар по военным делам т[оварищ] Подвойский на параде красной армии"="Kursk. People's Commissar for Military Affairs - comrade Podvoisky on the parade of the Red Army."

5:43 - "Петроград. Председатель Финляндского Совета Народных Уполномоченных Маннер бежавший в Россию."="St. Petersburg. Chairman of the Finnish Council of the People's Deputies - Manner escaping to Russia."

5:58 - "Москва. Народные гулянья на Девичьем поле."="Moscow. Festivities was on the Virgin's field."

6:35 - "Кустарные игрушки."="Handicraft toys."










"Orsha (Russian: О́рша) is a city in Belarus in Vitebsk Region on the fork of the Dnieper and Arshytsa rivers.

Orsha was first mentioned in 1067 as Rsha, making it one of the oldest towns in Belarus."


about the German soldiers - "The Treaty of Brest-Litovsk was a peace treaty signed on 3 March 1918 between the new Bolshevik government of Soviet Russia and the Central Powers (Germany, Austria-Hungary, Bulgaria, and Ottoman Empire), that ended Russia's participation in World War I. The treaty was signed at Brest-Litovsk (Polish: Brześć Litewski; since 1945 Brest), after two months of negotiations. The treaty was forced on the Bolshevik government by the threat of further advances by German and Austrian forces. According to the treaty, Soviet Russia defaulted on all of Imperial Russia's commitments to the Triple Entente alliance.

In the treaty, Bolshevik Russia ceded the Baltic States to Germany; they were meant to become German vassal states under German princelings. Russia also ceded its province of Kars Oblast in the South Caucasus to the Ottoman Empire and recognized the independence of Ukraine. Furthermore, Russia agreed to pay six billion German gold marks in reparations. Historian Spencer Tucker says, "The German General Staff had formulated extraordinarily harsh terms that shocked even the German negotiator." Congress Poland was not mentioned in the treaty, as Germans refused to recognize the existence of any Polish representatives, which in turn led to Polish protests. When Germans later complained that the Treaty of Versailles of 1919 was too harsh on them, the Allies (and historians favorable to the Allies) responded that it was more benign than Brest-Litovsk.

The treaty was effectively terminated in November 1918, when Germany surrendered to the Allies. However, in the meantime, it did provide some relief to the Bolsheviks, already fighting the Russian Civil War, by the renouncement of Russia's claims on Poland, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Belarus, Ukraine and Lithuania."

"Pavel Efimovich Dybenko (1889-1938) - (Russian: Павел Ефимович Дыбенко), was a Soviet revolutionary and a leading officer of Ukrainian descent.

From 1907 onward, Dybenko became active in a Bolshevik group, distributing revolutionary literature throughout the Novozbykov region - progressive publications such as the Peoples Gazette and the Proletariat which spoke to anti-Tsar sympathies.

He moved to Riga and worked as a port labourer. He tried to avoid enlisting, but was arrested and forcibly enlisted.

In November 1911, he joined the Baltic Fleet. The first six months he served on the ship "Dvina".

The "Dvina" was utilized by the Navy as a training vessel for the new recruits at Kronstadt. Formerly known as the Pamiat Azova its sailors were veterans of the 1906 revolutionary actions.

In 1912 he joined the Bolshevik Party. In 1915, he participated in the mutiny on board of the battleship Emperor Paul I. He was imprisoned for six months and sent as an infantry soldier to the German front. There he went on with anti-war propaganda, and was again imprisoned for 6 months.

He was released after the February 1917 revolution, and returned to the Baltic Fleet. In April 1917, he became the leader of the Tsentrobalt.

Dybenko was appointed the People's Commissar (minister) of naval affairs. Lenin, who knew Dybenko well enough as not to rely on him as a Navy commander, assigned to him an assistant, an ex-tzarist admiral who helped manage professional affairs of the Navy.

On February 18, 1918, the German army advanced towards Petrograd. The Lenin-Trotsky government sent Dybenko to defend Petrograd by the force of the Baltic Fleet.

The truth is that Dybenko and his mariners fled the field. According to the memoirs of Bonch-Bruyevich, the mariners came by a barrel of pure alcohol and consumed it. Their whereabouts were unknown for at least a month. Lenin wrote in his famous article on 25 February 1918, in Pravda evening edition: A lesson humiliating but necessary : Refused to fight,... refused to defend the Narva line, ...failed to destroy everything as they retreated...

Lenin added: From the point of view of the defence of the fatherland it would be a crime to enter into an armed conflict with an infinitely superior and well-prepared enemy when we obviously have no army. ... implying that Dybenko and his mariners definitely were not an army.

The government issued an order to arrest Dybenko and to deliver him to Moscow, that he might face court martial. His command was taken over by General Parsky. The Germans were in fact stopped by the ex-Tzarist general Nikolayev who organized some retreating Russian soldiers to fight.

The defeat at Narva caused the Bolshevik government to sign the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk. Another outcome was the transfer of the Bolshevik capital from Petrograd to Moscow.

In April 1918, he was dismissed from the government, expelled from the communist party and put to trial for cowardice. Unexpectedly, the court martial declared him innocent, since "Being no military expert, he was absolutely neither competent nor trained for the task,... he was not prepared to fight..."."

"Narva (Russian: Нарва) is the third largest city in Estonia. It is located at the eastern extreme point of Estonia, at the Russian border, on the Narva River which drains Lake Peipus."

"Kursk (Russian: Курск) is a city and the administrative center of Kursk Oblast, Russia, located at the confluence of the Kur, Tuskar, and Seym Rivers. The area around Kursk was the site of a turning point in the SovietGerman struggle during World War II and the site of the largest tank battle in history.

The first written record of Kursk is dated 1032."


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