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April 10th, 2021 | #1 |
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Did Hitler actually kill himself?
I don't think he did. It is more likely that the Israelites murdered him and sold it as "suicide". And he is not the only person they did that with.
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According to what I had red in Natures Eternal Religion,official Third Reich version was that he had died in battle as warrior. It is like question did Nero burned Rome or Christians? Or did NS burned German parliament or communists? I do not belive in official versions on those questions.
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Second, it's ridiculous to volunteer such a statement without the evidence and details supporting it. (The source of the evidence and details should not be someone's imagination)
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.. Now did Mr. 18 kill himself?? I don't think so!! I think he went to South America and hung out with some of his buddies like Dr. Mengla!! |
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I agree, and I can't remember having claimed that he did. I do agree that he died that day. I only disagree that he died the way most of us think he did.
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I too have long used the word Israeli, as people are programmed to explode in an epic fit if you say "jew" about anything.
Even if people counter with, "No, he is American", you can explain, "No, he has duel passport". (Maybe they can then wonder why such an honor is bestowed) |
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I always heard he offed himself after seeing what happened to Mussolini.
Whether it's true or not is anyone's guess. Some claim he escaped to South America.
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The subject of Hitler's fate - did he escape Berlin in 1945 or not? - comes up so regularly on various Internet forums, that a few years back I wrote a definitive answer. Now, instead of having to type the same response each time the question arises, I can just copy and paste the following:
The Myth of Hitler's Survival: It's Time to Put this Tall Tale to Bed Once and for All by James Harting I. Death In Berlin April, 1945: The Second World War in Europe is coming to its bloody, brutal, tragic end. The Allied armies push forward into Germany from the West, while in the East the Reich is being overrun by the Asiatic hordes of the Stalin's Red Army. In Berlin, Adolf Hitler is hunkered down in his subterranean command center known as the Führerbunker. Above, the Bolsheviks press forward relentlessly against the outnumbered and outgunned German defenders, who have mounted a heroic but doomed defense. Hitler realizes that the end has come. He marries his longtime companion, Eva Braun, thus legitimizing her place in history. He writes a "Political Testament" and a private will. He gives away the few personal possessions remaining to him, such as a small portrait of Frederick the Great. He takes leave of his staff and entourage, saying goodbye and shaking hands with each of them. Then, with quiet dignity, Hitler and Eva repair to a private chamber where they take their own lives. In this manner the Führer completes his earthly mission and passes into history. Sic transit gloria mundi. The bodies are carried to the surface and set alight in a makeshift funeral pyre. A small knot of followers witnesses the burning. They give a last, grief stricken salute to their fallen chief, before returning to the relative safety of the bunker. The area where the corpses lay is soon pounded by Soviet artillery fire, all but obliterating them. II. Why Did Hitler Take His Own Life? In the English language we have only a single word for the act of taking one's own life: suicide. German, however, draws a distinction between Selbstmord ("self murder"), when a person kills himself in shame or desperation, and Freitod ("free death"), which is when someone ends their own life voluntarily, in a clearheaded and deliberate manner, because they believe that their life has run its course, and it is now time to exit the stage. Noted historian Mark Weber discusses Hitler's freewill decision to take his own life: In Hitler's view, military commanders who order soldiers to defend a given position to the death are ethically obliged to set an example themselves, either by dying in battle or by taking their own lives. Following the calamitous conclusion of the Battle of Stalingrad, he had expressed contempt for the behavior of the German commander, von Paulus, who surrendered (and then later served as a Soviet propagandist). Von Paulus should have taken his own life, said Hitler, thereby showing the same level of manly resolve that dozens of Soviet commanders in similar situations had already exhibited.And that should have been the end of it, except that some people simply refused to believe that Hitler was dead. III. The Hitler Survival Myth Although the precise moment of Hitler's death was a private one, there were dozens of people in the bunker command center at the time, and who were witness in some part to the event, including the cremation of the bodies. Some of these people, such as Dr. Joseph Goebbels and his wife Magda, and Reichsleiter Martin Bormann, did not survive the War. But many others did, including:
Despite the absolute lack of any credible evidence, almost immediately rumors began to circulate that Hitler had, indeed, survived the maelstrom in Berlin. It now appears that first rumors were deliberately spread by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin, who felt that the survival myth gave him some tactical advantage in the post-1945 Cold War manuvering. The notion that Hitler was still alive captured the imaginations of those who were conspiratorily inclined. At first he was said to be hiding out in the Bavarian Alps. Soon the story moved him to the Patagonia region of Argentina. In the end, their imaginations unleashed from any constraints of reason or reality, conspiriologists had Hitler sequestered in a secret "Nazi UFO" base in Antarctica - and even on the dark side of the Moon! Even some National Socialists were taken in by the myth. The notion that the Führer was dead was just too horrible for them to contemplate. The renowned NS philosopher Savitri Devi maintained that Hitler was alive in two of her books written in the immediate post-War period, Defiance (1952) and Gold in the Furnace (1953). She recounts various conversations with Germans from that period, who express their belief that Hitler was still alive. Indeed, so strong was her faith in Hitler's survival, that she wrote and distributed thousands of leaflets that she wrote with the following text: German People,By the mid-1950s, however, she had come to grips with the realization that Hitler had indeed perished in Berlin years earlier. If there was even a one percent of one percent chance that the Fuehrer had escaped Berlin alive, he would have been the subject of a worldwide manhunt, the likes of which had never been seen. News of his survival would have been the lead story on the front page of every newspaper, not relegated to page 57 of True Crime magazine. Stormfront member @lord flints volunteer, who is not a National Socialist, correctly notes: Quote:
IV. The World Union of National Socialists Investigation By the mid-1950s, no National Socialist seriously believed that Hitler was still alive. Nevertheless, rumors to this effect continued to circulate in conspiritological circles. By the 1970s, the US-based World Union of National Socialists had emerged as the foremost international NS formation. In 1975, because the issue of Hitler's alleged survival was one of such fundamental importance, the World Union decided to launch its own investigation to settle the matter to its satisfaction once and for all. A commission of World Union officers visited Germany, where they spoke to as many survivors from the Bunker whom they could locate. The commission was led by World Union Commander Matt Koehl, and included the Danish NS leader Povl Riis-Knudsen, whose father had been an officer in the Waffen-SS. Among those to whom they spoke were Hitler Youth leader Arthur Axmann; Hitler's personal pilot, Hanna Reitsch; Otto Guensche; and Heniz Linge. (It should be noted that is some variants of the survival myth, Reitsch was said to have flown Hitler to safety.) Everyone interviewed by the WUNS commission said the same thing: Hitler ended his mortal life in the Bunker. Some 31 years after the event, there was no reason for any of them to conceal the truth, even if there had been a cover-up in 1945. V. But His Spirit Lives On! No, as tragic and heartbreaking as it may be, Adolf Hitler perished at his own hand beneath the burning rubble of Berlin. But although his body perished on that black April afternoon, his memory and his will continue to live on in the hearts and minds of his followers everywhere. As long a single National Socialist remains on the face of the Earth, Adolf Hitler will live on in spirit!
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April 12th, 2021 | #12 |
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I think Harting puts it well. I'm not aware of any evidence supporting an alternative. I know there were a number of 'Elvis sightings' of him, I recall reading a few in the FBI files.
However, the fact that they kept the file open and followed up on the few (very few) plausible sightings shows they, at least at first, were not certain. Nothing credible ever turned up. I've uploaded the FBI files on Hitler and the interrogation of his sister Paula here - https://ulozto.net/folder/PriawDI2Tpew The Marriage Certificate, Private Will and Political Testament - https://ulozto.net/file/tJBOGNqLEqO5...olf-hitler-pdf On the manner of Hitler's death: Not only was suicide the only choice for Hitler, it was his duty. Like countless leaders before him who found themselves on the losing end of a war (e.g., Hannibal Barca, Boudica, Mark Antony, Cleopatra VII, etc.) to fall into enemy hands would mean an ignominious and torturous end. Consider what had recently happened to Mussolini (or Gaddafi 10 years ago) He did what he had to do .
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Although I don't know whether Hitler killed himself or not, the fact is that his body was never found. The official story was that his body was doused with gasoline burned in the open air and then burried in the Chancellery garden. If that were the case, then significant remains would still have been left over. Even proper cremation in an oven leaves remains; open-air burning would leave significantly more remains, yet none have ever been found. The Goebbels bodies were found, as well as the unburnt body of a man wearing Hitler's uniform, but no remains of a burned body have ever been found. The jawbone found there was proved to be that of a woman, and the teeth likewise have been shown to be a hoax. So, if he did kill himself, the mystery still remains of what became of his body.
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I don't think burning a body with petrol, particularly in the open air, would do much to appreciably reduce the bones.
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Stalin wanted Hitler delivered to him.. Red Amy took the body, he was dead by then almost certainly, and Hitler's remains were sent to USSR.
For what exact reason? and after.. probably buried somewhere deep in Siberia .. |
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