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Old October 26th, 2020 #1
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Posen speeches

The Posen speeches were two "secret speeches" made by Heinrich Himmler on 4 October 1943 and 6 October 1943, in the city of Poznan (Posen). Speech texts and an audio recording of one of the speeches were "discovered" after the war and are very often cited as evidence for the politically correct view on the Holocaust and have even been described as the "best evidence" against Holocaust revisionism.

Holocaust revisionists have argued that the politically correct interpretation of the speeches is incorrect and/or that the speech records are not authentic and are edited/fabricated.

Context and significance

Quote:
if a document has been retyped at a key point, then I hold that document to be suspect [...] this isn't just any page...I suppose it is probably the most important page of the most important speech in the whole of the Holocaust history, and this page, of all pages, when we look at it, turned out to have been tampered with.
—David Irving, testifying in court on the 6 October speech, at the second of Ernst Zündel's Holocaust trials.[1]

The first speech on 4 October was given before 92 SS officers, the second on 6 October before Reichsleiters and Gauleiters (NSDAP party leaders), as well as other government representatives.

Allegedly, although the Holocaust was not the central topic in either of them, both carry great historical significance in reference to it. Himmler allegedly did away with the usual extreme secrecy (see Holocaust documentary evidence: Orders, plans, organizations, and budgets) and spoke explicitly of the Holocaust to German leaders.

The 4 October speech text was "discovered" after the war and used as evidence at the Nuremberg trials. The speech is also significant for in addition to written material there being a claimed audio recording of Himmler giving the speech. The 6 October speech was "discovered" in 1970 as written material but with no audio recording (except for "a very small section of the middle of the speech"[2]). It is significant for being argued to sometimes be more explicit than the 4 October speech and in other ways "fixing" some of the argued problems with the 4 October speech.

In the literature, if there is a reference to only one "Posen Speech", it is usually the 4 October speech that is intended. Besides the claimed 6 October Posen speech, Himmler is stated to have made many other speeches at Posen and elsewhere.

 
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