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The best we can get are semi-auto versions of battle and assault rifles. So fire discipline with your semi-auto is the norm for any serious rifleman. I too am a fan myself of the .308 (7.62 Nato) round and I have several civilian (semi-auto only) FAL rifles. But that is for a different discussion...we are talking about handguns here for personal defense. Quote:
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I did, good choice. Of course anyone reading any of my gun posts here will know what a huge fan of Taurus I am.
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About 9mm’s bouncing off the heads of Negroes I would have to see several stories to back that up. Sure there is probably an urban legend floating around, contact Ripley’s for all sorts of strange survival shots.
I do know from experience that a 22lr will drop a 700-pound hog with one shot. That is through the skull. I also know that it will drop a calf with one shot and this is a calf that can smash a car door with it’s skull. I don’t think some darkie is going to deflect a 9mm. About taking a lung shot and still fighting, adrenaline won’t do that. They taser people who are on adrenaline rushes and knock them down. The tales you are telling can only be found in superhero comic books. Quote:
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Dave Sveginy (SP?) who just won several world championships did it with an out of the box Glock with a few modifications. He didn’t even have $800 in his gun and he beat people using $3,000 guns. If you tune them up a Glock is just as accurate as any high dollar gun. Quote:
Here is something else, a Glock has less moving parts than an average revolver and a lot less to go wrong. They are also more durable to mud, dust, weather and just about anything else you can throw at it. In my life I have had $800 revolvers malfunction and I have only had 2 automatics malfunction and one of them was a $20 Lorcin. Your arguments are classic Guns and Ammo arguments. The anti-Glock argument. The revolver is more reliable argument. The high caliber Fal over the 223 argument. The under power of the 9mm. People taking shots to the lungs and still fighting. Let’s not forget the classic 45 acp argument. All of these things could have been lifted off the pages of Guns and Ammo magazine (I know I have a subscription) by writers paid to promote substandard guns. I have literally read everything you have said in guns and ammo magazine. If you can’t hit anything with a Glock, an FAL isn’t going to help matters any. I am not questioning where your heart is in terms of racism but I believe your firearms knowledge is limited to someone who got a subscription to Guns and Ammo and you are just quoting what they say. The arguments you make are so cliché and old.
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Personally I prefer a hammerless 357 stub nose as a back up weapon or even as a primary weapon. It gives you the availability of choosing both .38 Cal or .357 Loads to fit your preferences and needs. A wheel Gun will rarely ever jam where a semi auto may jam or could jam when needed most. The trade off is lower capacity of ammunition to send down range and a bit of a slower reload time than a Semi-Auto, But the trade off for absolute reliability is the single strength of a Wheel Gun over a Semi-Auto. Thats my .02 Cents on the matter.
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Well, I see the the original posting was about .38 snub nose as opposed to small auto but it has evolved to a wider discussion. I do not have a subscription to Guns and Ammo but I would still like to respond.
For home defense shotguns are superior in close quarters and second to none. I have many guns and the one that is loaded and next to my bed is an old Winchester Model 12 - 12 gauge pump. The last thing anyone wants being shot at them at close range is buck shot. For concealed carry by females i would say a .357 Mag revolver double action, Colt or Smith and Wesson. Use .38 special ammo and the bulkier frame should make the recoil acceptable. I know there are many ladies who can handle more but we are speaking in general terms. My personal preference for concealed carry on the street or a combat side arm would be a 1911 model .45 ACP made by Springfield Armory or Colt. After that if social unrest suddenly struck and chaos took to the streets you would probably only use your pistol while trying to make your way to your rifle and only 2 cartridges would do the job AND be replenishable by our modern military in most situations. That would be the .308 and the .223. So that only means M1A-M14 and an M4 type. Hey.... Just like the guy a few post back.... It's only my 2 cents. |
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Kimber Stainless CDP Pro, 4" aluminum framed .45, firing 10 230 grain Corbon+P fragmentation rounds, 24 ounces empty, very concealable with Uncle Mike's scabbard, tritium night sights, will stop a charging 300lb. crack crazed buck fo-sho.......built in Kimber's Custom shop, I sold my other handguns as they were redundant and inferior.
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Well; I stated this before, my .25 auto worked very well; I have since added a S&W 9mm and last weekend, a .357 snub nose revolver, I did have the opportunity to purchase a hammerless, titanium frame .38 but didn't because of the cost. I got the magnum for just shy of $300, brand new, in the box. The gun store where I got it had some .45 cal. autos. for $169 + tax; had I seen them before I bought the magnum, I might have gotten one. It's my plan to go back and get one in the next 2 weeks.
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People think revolvers won’t jam or malfunction but that is a 1950’s mindset when automatic guns were still a fairly new idea to Americans. Today’s automatic guns are well built and most malfunctions can be traced back to user error.
To think a wheel gun is indestructible is wrong. There are 2 stops to hold your cylinder (one to cycle and one to hold it in place) and both wear very fast. If either one fails your gun will malfunction severely. Most revolvers have an internal firing pin with a safety so the gun won’t fire with the hammer down, if this fails the gun is no more than a rock. Older revolvers have an external firing pin on the hammer and if this catches on anything it could bend it or break the pin holding it in place again rendering the gun useless. I have seen a pin break on a $700 revolver than hadn’t been shot 200 times. Now gun companies are giving less and less warranty and not being liable for injuries due to malfunctions. This is of course because non-whites are building guns now. Guns are made shoddier and have a higher chance of malfunction. The reason people distrust automatics is because back in the day they had tight tolerances, heavy springs and a bunch of moving parts. Not so today, some automatics like the Glock have less moving parts than a revolver. Murphy’s Law will tell you the more moving parts the more chances that something will break or malfunction. So the idea that a revolver is more reliable than an automatic is just plain nonsense. If a person likes a revolver better because of the feel or nostalgia then great but don’t give out disinformation to back up a preference.
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.45 cal.; 4" barrel; aluminum frame, 26oz., tritium nightsights; all from Kimber's custom shop; mine fires 10 230gr. Corbons; artillery piece power and accuracy with collectible quality; real concealability in an Uncle Mike's scabbard due to light weight and compact size....... $850 from Gunbroker. Stop a 300lb. crack addled spook?
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March 9th, 2009 | #92 |
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I used to have a Taurus .357 magnum revolver. After about thirty rounds the cylinder would expand from the heat generated by the burning propellant. When that happened the trigger wouldn’t pull until the revolver cooled.
There is also a clip on youtube that shows a Taurus revolver’s barrel shooting off when the gun is fired. S&W makes good revolvers but the built in safety mechanism is bad news. If you go with a wheel gun you should go Ruger. At least go Ruger until S&W gets their shit straight. |
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J.C. - "I used to have a Taurus .357 magnum revolver. After about thirty rounds the cylinder would expand from the heat generated by the burning propellant. When that happened the trigger wouldn’t pull until the revolver cooled. There is also a clip on youtube that shows a Taurus revolver’s barrel shooting off when the gun is fired."
Long story short: Though I still own one Taurus firearm, I'll never buy another one again. J.C. - "If you go with a wheel gun you should go Ruger. At least go Ruger until S&W gets their shit straight." Though I still own one S&W firearm, I still haven't forgiven those cowards for selling out to the Clinton administration years ago. I haven't bought another since then and don't plan on it. Yes, Ruger is the way to go. BTW, the CEO of S&W is a dirty jew named Michael F. Golden. Last edited by Greg Gerdes; March 12th, 2009 at 08:38 PM. |
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As to the answer of the question that started this thread?
"What's Better - .38 Snubby or Small Auto?" It depends on the .38 snubby or the small auto. My suggestion - buy one of each and try them out for yourself. See what you like personally. But, if you have a bad experience with one, don't let that one bad experience sour you on one or the other. Keep buying / selling / trading until you find one of each that you like, as they both have their virtues and everyone who can affort it should have at least one of each. BTW, the most unreliable small auto I've ever owned was a Taurus. |
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Pros vs Cons
Ok, let the gun nut take a spin.
Revolvers: Reliable, solid, guaranteed to fire. .38 snubby is small, lightweight, packs a [U]close-range[U] wallop (emphasis on the close). however, it only has 6 shots, so you must make them count. This, in turn produces its own pro, you learn to shoot! but the 6 rounds only leaves you stuck when you need to reload - revolvers are slow at the best of times. Semi-autos: Accurate, lightweight, easy maintenance and quick to reload, and have the same bang for the buck and a larger clip size (9 rounds usually), therefore more confidence that if a larger gang of shit skins decides to 'have-a-go' the more you can drop. Being this as it may, semi-autos are not the most reliable thing on the planet, prone to jamming (a single bullet get jammed in the breech and cannot be fired nor removed), mis-firing (randomly firing when a minor force is applied tot eh gun ie, being dropped when loaded) and even hang-firing (pulling the trigger and nothing happens), but most of these points are pretty well taken care of by the gun companies, as they have pressure to produce more accurate, reliable heavy-hitting firearms. So, my personal opinion would be to ditch the piss-ant calibres and go the smith and wesson .45 long slide with a laser sighting - the ultimate point and click interface lol. |
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I do agree with the opinion that revolvers have the edge in simplicity. You grab it and its ready to go. Everybody knows how to operate a revolver. But the small autos definitely have the edge on concealability and ammo capacity. Like with everything else, it boils down to personal choice. That's why there's so many kinds of guns. In any case having any kind of gun is better than having no gun. Agreed? Cops quit carrying revolvers. I think that says something about reliability of modern autos. |
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I however agree if you are going with revolver go with a .357 magnum. |
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