Lawmaker Says Judge Roy Moore's Accusers Should Face Legal Action

[Ravening Wolf]

ROY MOORE’S TWO ACCUSERS: LEIGH CORFMAN HAS HISTORY OF MAKING FALSE SEXUAL ALLEGATIONS AGAINST PASTORS, DEBORAH GIBSON A DEM VOLUNTEER FOR MOORE’S OPPONENT – HAPPENED 40 YEARS AGO!

Posted on November 10, 2017 Updated on November 13, 2017

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Source: https://70news.wordpress.com/2017/11...dem-volunteer/

[Ravening Wolf]

AL Sen Poll: Moore Leads Jones 49% to 43%

by Jeff Poor

14 Nov 2017

Tuesday, Mobile, AL FOX affiliate WALA unveiled the latest FOX10 News/Strategy Research poll on the December 12 special election for U.S. Senate between Republican former Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore and Democrat former Clinton U.S. Attorney Doug Jones.

The poll surveyed 3,000 likely voters and was taken on November 13, days after a Washington Post report was published that accused Moore of engaging in inappropriate conduct with four teenage girls more than 34 years ago.

The poll gives Moore a six-point advantage over shows Jones by a 49-to-43 percent margin with 8 percent undecided.

Strategy Research’s Jon Gray explained to FOX10’s Bob Grip how the race had changed since the last poll conducted by his firm in October and why the movement has left an opening for Jones to pull off the upset.

“When we polled back in October, Roy Moore was at 52 to 41,” Gray said. “He had an 11-point advantage. When we polled last night 3,000 voters in Alabama, we’re looking at that lead changing. He’s essentially lost three points. Doug Jones has picked up two points. And you see down here, we moved one point to the undecideds. That’s a big deal because now the undecideds are going to come in. This 49 number, Bob — that’s big because he’s not over 50 percent, which means we’re still open.”...

...The poll also surveyed voter sentiment on the sexual misconduct allegations against Moore and if they had influenced their support. Thirty-six percent of all likely voters said they intended to vote for Jones anyway and 35 percent said the allegations made them more likely to vote for Moore.

However, 11 percent said the allegations made it less likely they would vote for Moore and 18 percent said they were “either undecided, or that the allegations made no difference to them.”

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Article: http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/...s-jones-49-43/

[Ravening Wolf]

Moore lawyer: Canadian MSNBC host's 'background' could help him understand dating minors

Brett Samuels - 11/15/17 12:23 PM EST

An attorney for Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore seemed to suggest Wednesday that MSNBC host Ali Velshi's "background" might help the journalist understand why the Republican nominee would date underage women.

“Culturally speaking there’s differences. I looked up Ali’s background, and wow, that’s awesome that you have got such a diverse background, it’s really cool to read through that," attorney Trenton Garmon said when asked why Moore would need permission from girls' mothers to date them.

“What does Ali Velshi’s background have to do with dating children, 14-year-old girls?” co-host Stephanie Ruhle interjected.

Velshi was born in Kenya, raised in Canada and graduated from Queen’s University in Ontario.

“In other countries, there’s arrangement through parents for what we would refer to as consensual marriage,” Garmon said.

“Ali’s from Canada,” Ruhle said.

“Ali’s also spent time in other countries,” Garmon said. “So it’s not a bad thing.”

“I don’t know where you’re going with this, Trenton,” Velshi said.

Garmon then defended Moore’s comment that he’d always ask a girl's mother for permission before asking them out on a date...

...Garmon represents the Foundation for Moral Law, a Montgomery-based legacy advocacy group headed by Moore’s wife, Kayla Moore.

appeared on CNN last week to respond to allegations in a Washington Post story about the foundation, and referred to CNN host Don Lemon as “Don Easy Peasy Lemon Squeezy.”

Garmon on Tuesday sent a letter on Moore’s behalf to Alabama Media Group, calling for the news outlet to retract its reporting on Moore.

Moore has denied the allegations and vowed to finish the campaign.

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Article: http://thehill.com/homenews/media/36...him-understand

[Tony Boone]

Roy Moore goes on the offense. Moore's attorney demands Gloria Allred release high school yearbook for forensic examination. Looks like some serious problems for at least one accuser.

I have never believed the accusations of criminal behavior. To me it looks too contrived and fabricated. Press conference taking place now. More to follow.

[Jeffrey Smither]

I don't really see anything criminal here.

He liked the younger girls which is legal at 16.

I mean, I checkout girls who are younger than me too. 14 just too young though.

[Tony Boone]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey Smither

I don't really see anything criminal here.

He liked the younger girls which is legal at 16.

I mean, I checkout girls who are younger than me too. 14 just too young though.

Neighbors say the girl was older than 14 at the time.

[Jeffrey Smither]

Originally Posted by Tony Boone

Neighbors say the girl was older than 14 at the time.

Then nothing wrong with that.

I wonder if it went down like this.

quagmire best moment p4

quagmire best moment p4

[Ravening Wolf]

Deep State Desperate to Torpedo Roy Moore’s Senate Bid

Posted on November 15, 2017 by State of the Nation

Every Republican and Independent in Alabama Ought to Support Roy Moore


The country is now witnessing one Mainstream Media hit piece after another targeting U.S. Senate candidate Roy Moore.

Deep State has given the orders to take Moore down—hard! This entire psyop has been carefully planned by the U.S. Intelligence Community ever since Moore entered the senate race.

The decision-makers know that a shift in the balance of power there can make President Trump’s much more miserable. Hence, they have implemented a strategy that is well known in Chicagoland as the Rules for Radicals.

Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals

What U.S. Senate candidate Roy Moore is experiencing right now is the outworking of Saul Alinsky’s communist playbook Rules for Radicals.

This manual for grassroots revolution — right or wrong — has 13 “Rules for Radicals”.

It’s rule #13 that is being used with great effect to take down Roy Moore.
13. “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”
Cut off the support network and isolate the target from
sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt
faster than institutions.
(Source: The Left’s playbook: Satanist Saul Alinsky’s 13 rules for political warfare) http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=89420

This is exactly Roy Moore’s plight at this very moment.

The Left has swung into action at the ‘perfect’ time to sabotage Moore’s candidacy in Alabama. They did the very same thing to Candidate Donald Trump in October of 2016.

They also smeared Presidential Candidate Herman Cain in a similar way in December of 2011. They tried to do it to Ben Carson and many other on the Right who pose a formidable political profile.

Both the Left and the Right have implemented #13 — upon the orders of Deep State — for many decades. They will blacken the reputation of any opponent with sexual misconduct when they want to take someone down … for good.

What is absolutely critical to understand is that Deep State wants Roy Moore out of this race. What he represents is anathema to the treasonous cabal of RINOs who currently predominate throughout the U.S. Congress. Moore poses a very real threat to their little uni-party.

Those who populate The Swamp know that Moore will not go along to get along. That he will ally himself with Trump. And that he will advance the populist agenda however he can. He is, after all, a Christian and a conservative as well as a patriot and a nationalist.

Pizzagate is fundamentally a Deep State scandal

The most crucial aspect of this sordid saga is that it is the Left that reeks with criminal guilt for the Washington, D.C. scandal known as Pizzagate. The Clintons, the Podestas, the Obamas, the Bidens, et al. are so deep in Pizzagate it’s a wonder they are still not locked up.

PIZZAGATE: The Scandal That Will Take Down the Clintons, the Democratic Party and the U.S. Federal Government http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=56142

As a matter of historical fact, the Democrats are quite naturally into sexual perversions and carnal deviance. It’s just what they do and what liberalism encourages. Extreme promiscuity and overly permissive mores are the status quo on the Left. That’s not to say that the Republicans are not equally as guilty in their own way as well.

Because the politics of personal destruction has always served the Left well, especially where it concerns sexual wrongdoing, they use it as their preferred weapon. It almost always works for them, as the nation is now seeing with Roy Moore.

The key point here is that those accusing Roy Moore of basically nothing are themselves culpable of the most heinous crimes against children—very young children. Pizzagate has already shown the American people just how morally depraved and criminally reckless the accusers really are. PIZZAGATE: A Special Report on the Washington, D.C. Pedophilia Scandal http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=60679

This is what makes this whole witch hunt so despicable. All of the accusers in this case are up to their eyeballs in Pedogate. That’s because it is the very mechanism by which the political class has been controlled and coerced over decades. Deep State would have it no other way. However, that’s all about to change.

PEDOGATE: Pandora’s Box Has Been Opened for Deep State and the C.I.A. http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=68600

Conclusion

Given this true state of affairs, it’s imperative that the good people of Alabama do not let the treacherous agents of Deep State influence their vote. These globalists at heart have no interest whatsoever in the welfare of the American Republic. On the contrary, they seek it complete and final destruction.

The election of Roy Moore may provide the political bulwark necessary to stop the many seditious plots being hatched by traitors in the Congress.

Do you comprehend just how dire this situation really is, voters in Alabama?!

Simple point of fact: It’s quite unlikely that Roy Moore would have ever run for such a high-profile senate seat if he was actually guilty of any transgressions against young women.

Did he date them? Who cares? A close review of all the evidence does not reveal a single actionable crime.

Moore certainly did not do what the many high-ranking Democrats do every day of every week for years on end.

Secret Service Agent Exposes VP Joe Biden’s Sexual Misconduct (Video) http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=89374

State of the Nation http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=89418
November 15, 2017

Source

DOSSIERGATE: The Corrupt and Covert Intersection of the U.S. & U.K. Intelligence Communities

Article: http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=89418#more-89418

[Susan]

Currently, there are 9 females alleging Roy Moore pursued them and engaged in various kinds of pushy, manipulative, sexually aggressive, and/or criminal sexual behavior.

The other day on Hannity's show Moore sounded like a liar. He had no answers except he was being framed. He contradicted himself, and sounded like someone who was being dishonest but isn't a very good liar.

It's beginning to look like Roy Moore was a sexual predator of teenage girls when he was clearly too old for them by the standards of most decent Whites. And the men who say they think it's great, would quickly change their tune if Moore were pursuing their daughters no doubt.

He openly pursued young girls to the point that it became a public issue and they considered banning him from the local mall. His coworkers at the DA's office knew he liked/dated young girls. His behavior appears to have been public knowledge by many locals, and they just looked the other way...because his sexually predatory behavior was not known.

Whether or not Moore is guilty of the accusations, the issue is NOT asking a minor to be one's wife, or just liking teenage girls (but not acting on that urge) when you are clearly too old for them.

The issue here is preying on underage girls by harassing them, or by misrepresenting your intentions in order to get them away from others so that you can sexually molest and/or assault them by forcing sexual intercourse or oral sex or fondling, masturbation, or other kinds of predatory behavior.

So, why the hell are you all getting sidetracked with all these other issues that are not what Roy Moore is accused of? He is not accused of proposing to teenage girls or just mild flirtatious behavior acceptable by local standards. It appears that Roy Moore had some serious sexual issues that may have been the result of his war experience or who knows what?

I'm trying to keep an open mind, but right now it appears he was a predator of teenage girls. The jews are trying to make him out to be a pedophile, which he does not appear to be. This could change, of course. But in my mind, a pedophile is someone who preys upon and molests and rapes children under the age of 13.

I believe Herman Cain was guilty of doing something with the White women who were his accusers. They all told similar stories and had worked with him or under him, and black male predatory behavior of White females is well documented. He has always sounded too defensive about it, and sounded as if he were lying.

There is a very unpleasant history here of believing men and not believing women, regardless of facts or common sense. After a while, you lose credibility and look like ignorant buffoons or knuckle draggers. Think about what you write. Not all women lie about this stuff, and not all men tell the truth.

[Jeffrey Smither]

Originally Posted by Susan

Currently, there are 9 females alleging Roy Moore pursued them and engaged in various kinds of pushy, manipulative, sexually aggressive, and/or criminal sexual behavior.

The other day on Hannity's show Moore sounded like a liar. He had no answers except he was being framed. He contradicted himself, and sounded like someone who was being dishonest but isn't a very good liar.

It's beginning to look like Roy Moore was a sexual predator of teenage girls when he was clearly too old for them by the standards of most decent Whites. And the men who say they think it's great, would quickly change their tune if Moore were pursuing their daughters no doubt.

He openly pursued young girls to the point that it became a public issue and they considered banning him from the local mall. His coworkers at the DA's office knew he liked/dated young girls. His behavior appears to have been public knowledge by many locals, and they just looked the other way...because his sexually predatory behavior was not known.

Whether or not Moore is guilty of the accusations, the issue is NOT asking a minor to be one's wife, or just liking teenage girls (but not acting on that urge) when you are clearly too old for them.

The issue here is preying on underage girls by harassing them, or by misrepresenting your intentions in order to get them away from others so that you can sexually molest and/or assault them by forcing sexual intercourse or oral sex or fondling, masturbation, or other kinds of predatory behavior.

So, why the hell are you all getting sidetracked with all these other issues that are not what Roy Moore is accused of? He is not accused of proposing to teenage girls or just mild flirtatious behavior acceptable by local standards. It appears that Roy Moore had some serious sexual issues that may have been the result of his war experience or who knows what?

I'm trying to keep an open mind, but right now it appears he was a predator of teenage girls. The jews are trying to make him out to be a pedophile, which he does not appear to be. This could change, of course. But in my mind, a pedophile is someone who preys upon and molests and rapes children under the age of 13.

I believe Herman Cain was guilty of doing something with the White women who were his accusers. They all told similar stories and had worked with him or under him, and black male predatory behavior of White females is well documented. He has always sounded too defensive about it, and sounded as if he were lying.

There is a very unpleasant history here of believing men and not believing women, regardless of facts or common sense. After a while, you lose credibility and look like ignorant buffoons or knuckle draggers. Think about what you write. Not all women lie about this stuff, and not all men tell the truth.

I think he likes younger girls. Kinda creepy to many, but not illegal. Like others said on here the age should be lower like 16. A 17 year old is still old enough to make decisions. Now if the chick rejects you then you're creepy if you keeping hitting on her regardless of your age.

But it shouldn't be considered creepy for a young guy in his early 30s to like 16-18 year olds. It's hormones. A long time ago it wasn't considered creepy at all. IMO it is the bible thumpers and Jews who got this creep thing going.

[Ravening Wolf]

Originally Posted by Susan

Currently, there are 9 females alleging Roy Moore pursued them and engaged in various kinds of pushy, manipulative, sexually aggressive, and/or criminal sexual behavior.

The other day on Hannity's show Moore sounded like a liar. He had no answers except he was being framed. He contradicted himself, and sounded like someone who was being dishonest but isn't a very good liar.

It's beginning to look like Roy Moore was a sexual predator of teenage girls when he was clearly too old for them by the standards of most decent Whites. And the men who say they think it's great, would quickly change their tune if Moore were pursuing their daughters no doubt.

He openly pursued young girls to the point that it became a public issue and they considered banning him from the local mall. His coworkers at the DA's office knew he liked/dated young girls. His behavior appears to have been public knowledge by many locals, and they just looked the other way...because his sexually predatory behavior was not known.

Whether or not Moore is guilty of the accusations, the issue is NOT asking a minor to be one's wife, or just liking teenage girls (but not acting on that urge) when you are clearly too old for them.

The issue here is preying on underage girls by harassing them, or by misrepresenting your intentions in order to get them away from others so that you can sexually molest and/or assault them by forcing sexual intercourse or oral sex or fondling, masturbation, or other kinds of predatory behavior.

So, why the hell are you all getting sidetracked with all these other issues that are not what Roy Moore is accused of? He is not accused of proposing to teenage girls or just mild flirtatious behavior acceptable by local standards. It appears that Roy Moore had some serious sexual issues that may have been the result of his war experience or who knows what?

I'm trying to keep an open mind, but right now it appears he was a predator of teenage girls. The jews are trying to make him out to be a pedophile, which he does not appear to be. This could change, of course. But in my mind, a pedophile is someone who preys upon and molests and rapes children under the age of 13.

I believe Herman Cain was guilty of doing something with the White women who were his accusers. They all told similar stories and had worked with him or under him, and black male predatory behavior of White females is well documented. He has always sounded too defensive about it, and sounded as if he were lying.

There is a very unpleasant history here of believing men and not believing women, regardless of facts or common sense. After a while, you lose credibility and look like ignorant buffoons or knuckle draggers. Think about what you write. Not all women lie about this stuff, and not all men tell the truth.

If Judge Roy Moore was this terrible sexual predator of teenage girls, then why were there no stories in the news media 30-40 years ago, when these events supposedly occurred?

I don't think there is a single person posting on this thread who thinks it is a good or socially acceptable thing for a 32 year old man or woman to be harassing a 14 year old girl or boy, or anyone else, in a sexual manner.

I just find it very strange that there was nary a peep about this in all the land for 40 years, and now that Judge Roy Moore is running for the U.S. Senate it has suddenly become a huge issue.

I think this is a political witch hunt, starting with a hit piece by The Washington Post (establishment and Jewish mouthpiece). I hardly think anyone should be trusting the faded 'memories' of these women who did not seem very concerned about Roy Moore 40 years ago. Certainly none of their relatives spent any time in jail for beating Assistant DA Roy Moore to a pulp at the time, which one might reasonably have expected, given the nature of the accusations now being made (40 years after the supposed events). Remember, these women have been paid for their stories and The Washington Post has a leftwing agenda, directly opposing Judge Roy Moore's conservative, constitutional, nationalist, and Christian ideology.

[Susan]

No one said the jew media doesn't have ulterior motives (hatred of Whites) for finding this out and bringing it out in the open. You would be surprised to find out how many secrets are kept quiet for years, only to have them become public knowledge at some point.

I imagine those who knew about Moore's preference for teenagers thought it unsettling, but they did not know about the sexual predatory behavior, which is criminal.

When I was in elementary school, one of my neighborhood girlfriends had a grandfather who liked me to sit on his lap and he would kiss me full on the lips and hold my face there. It only happened once or twice before I avoided him. I never told my parents and no one ever did anything to this old guy. My friend and her mother laughed about it.

If you all knew how many men for whom I babysat back in the sixties and early seventies drove me home drunk after they got home from a night out with their wives, you would be shocked. They never did anything to me--most were family friends--but by today's standards, it would be shocking.

There was a good family friend where we lived back in the sixties and seventies, the father was one of the college coaches at the local university, liked my dad and thought it funny to throw his beer cans in our front yard at night. My dad got a kick out of it, and no one knew anything except the other local football coaches who also lived around us. This man is a well known college football coach, unless he's retired.

Things happen all the time--or they used to--and no one thought anything of it, or at least no one did anything about it.

It was a different world years ago, before we had around the clock jew mania.

[Jeffrey Smither]

Originally Posted by Susan

No one said the jew media doesn't have ulterior motives (hatred of Whites) for finding this out and bringing it out in the open. You would be surprised to find out how many secrets are kept quiet for years, only to have them become public knowledge at some point.

I imagine those who knew about Moore's preference for teenagers thought it unsettling, but they did not know about the sexual predatory behavior, which is criminal.

When I was in elementary school, one of my neighborhood girlfriends had a grandfather who liked me to sit on his lap and he would kiss me full on the lips and hold my face there. It only happened once or twice before I avoided him. I never told my parents and no one ever did anything to this old guy. My friend and her mother laughed about it.

If you all knew how many men for whom I babysat back in the sixties and early seventies drove me home drunk after they got home from a night out with their wives, you would be shocked. They never did anything to me--most were family friends--but by today's standards, it would be shocking.

There was a good family friend where we lived back in the sixties and seventies, the father was one of the college coaches at the local university, liked my dad and thought it funny to throw his beer cans in our front yard at night. My dad got a kick out of it, and no one knew anything except the other local football coaches who also lived around us. This man is a well known college football coach, unless he's retired.

Things happen all the time--or they used to--and no one thought anything of it, or at least no one did anything about it.

It was a different world years ago, before we had around the clock jew mania.

yea, but that is really creepy an elderly guy kissing a teen. Moore being in his 30s was quite a bit younger. Not as big of an age gap.

[Ravening Wolf]

Originally Posted by Susan

No one said the jew media doesn't have ulterior motives (hatred of Whites) for finding this out and bringing it out in the open. You would be surprised to find out how many secrets are kept quiet for years, only to have them become public knowledge at some point.

I imagine those who knew about Moore's preference for teenagers thought it unsettling, but they did not know about the sexual predatory behavior, which is criminal.

When I was in elementary school, one of my neighborhood girlfriends had a grandfather who liked me to sit on his lap and he would kiss me full on the lips and hold my face there. It only happened once or twice before I avoided him. I never told my parents and no one ever did anything to this old guy. My friend and her mother laughed about it.

If you all knew how many men for whom I babysat back in the sixties and early seventies drove me home drunk after they got home from a night out with their wives, you would be shocked. They never did anything to me--most were family friends--but by today's standards, it would be shocking.

There was a good family friend where we lived back in the sixties and seventies, the father was one of the college coaches at the local university, liked my dad and thought it funny to throw his beer cans in our front yard at night. My dad got a kick out of it, and no one knew anything except the other local football coaches who also lived around us. This man is a well known college football coach, unless he's retired.

Things happen all the time--or they used to--and no one thought anything of it, or at least no one did anything about it.

It was a different world years ago, before we had around the clock jew mania.

I think things like that were a part of the culture, at that time and earlier, and were usually harmless, like politicians kissing babies and children. Of course, if you felt uncomfortable, it was probably best to avoid 'grandpa'. Yes, I remember those times too, when the police pulled drunken drivers over only to drive them home and warn them to be more careful. They were more innocent and certainly different times from today's hyper politically correct, overprotective, and, quite frankly, mushy-headed times. I think neither those young women, nor their parents, had a problem with Assistant DA Roy Moore trying to date them, at the time. They may have even been flattered. However, now we are living through 'generation snowflake', and what an ordeal it is to read about all the contrived emotional bs everyday. Just as we should not compare Robert E. Lee, for example, to modern Americans regarding his views on slavery, so we should not compare Americans who lived as young people 40 years ago to those of today regarding perceptions of dating conventions and etiquette (not harassment and molestation).

[Susan]

Yes Ravening, things were quite different in many ways back then...some good, some not so good.

I was not a teenager when Gramps was kissing me on the lips. I was either 10 or 11 and was not sophisticated in the least. The old guy could have been a pedophile...who knows?

As for the parents of these girls being flattered by Moore's attention...give me a break. Do you think the girls who he molested told their parents about what he actually did? And do you really think if they did tell them, that their parents would still have pushed their daughters toward him? I doubt it seriously.

Again...the parents might not have gone to the police, but I'll bet they would have forbade their daughters from any contact with him.

Apparently Moore went to Vietnam. Maybe he got used to young teenage girl prostitutes over there and decided he liked them that young. His behavior was so blatant, hanging out at the mall with teenagers ( who does this in his thirties?), pursuing so aggressively teen girls...very strange.

One of his recent accusers said he even called her high school, asked for her, and then asked her out on a date when she came to the phone. This is bizarre behavior for an adult male.

Somethin'' isn't right somewhere. His answers were all over the place in Hannity's interview, and he simply did not sound as if he were being honest. His answers were ambiguous and deceptive to me.

The kikenvermin don't figure into my opinion of all this. I'm looking at all this solely based on the totality of the accusations, the comments from other adults at the time all this was supposedly going on, and Moore's own response.

One thing I want to say to you guys here is that you have a tendency to put all females into one box--one size fits all. You judge females based on your opinions, your way of doing things, your expectations of what females should do, when, and how.

You cannot do this.. Women respond differently, and as we age we become aware of things that happened way back in our childhood or teenage years that we may have never thought of before. And if you are a thoughtful person, you come to understand things that happened long ago. You may finally come to understand things that have had a profound effect on your life for decades. Some things become clear that you never understood. You may even remember things that you had never thought about for decades that open up your life and finally give you peace. You may remember things you had not thought about in decades that elucidate certain aspects of your life.

And sometimes you put things away in your mind and refuse to think about them. Females also respond differently at different times of their life. When I first moved over to the Atlanta area, I went to a double matinee at the Rhodes theater one Sunday afternoon. I was either 28 or 29. I remember standing out in the lobby in line to get something to drink and as I glanced around the room I noticed a young, blonde White male looking at me.

I didn't think anything of it, but when I got back to my seat, and the lights went down, and the movie started, all of a sudden this guy sat right next to me. There were people all around me, but I was on the end of the aisle and the seat next to me was empty. I was near the back too. I didn't look at him and no one said anything. All of a sudden he puts his right arm around my shoulders and starts touching my left breast with his left hand.

Needless to say, I was stunned. So stunned I couldn't do anything or say anything. Finally, after a few seconds I turned to him and said "please stop.". He said " okay", and after another few seconds he removed his arm from around me, and after another few seconds he got up and left. I was almost paralyzed with shock. I don't even remember if I told the manager. I think I did but I didn't report it to the police.

If that happened now, I'd probably smash the guy's face, elbow him so hard I'd break a rib, and scream loud enough to wake the dead.

Sometimes you find things out late in life that devastate you, and you know that you will never be the same person at all...ever. This has recently happened to me. At the age of 63, I found something devastating out about a family member that no one ever talked about.

Life's a long, weird trip. Stay awake for it. Be prepared as you get older to surprise yourself and never stop learning about what it is that makes you YOU.

[Jeffrey Smither]

Originally Posted by Susan

Yes Ravening, things were quite different in many ways back then...some good, some not so good.

I was not a teenager when Gramps was kissing me on the lips. I was either 10 or 11 and was not sophisticated in the least. The old guy could have been a pedophile...who knows?

As for the parents of these girls being flattered by Moore's attention...give me a break. Do you think the girls who he molested told their parents about what he actually did? And do you really think if they did tell them, that their parents would still have pushed their daughters toward him? I doubt it seriously.

Again...the parents might not have gone to the police, but I'll bet they would have forbade their daughters from any contact with him.

Apparently Moore went to Vietnam. Maybe he got used to young teenage girl prostitutes over there and decided he liked them that young. His behavior was so blatant, hanging out at the mall with teenagers ( who does this in his thirties?), pursuing so aggressively teen girls...very strange.

One of his recent accusers said he even called her high school, asked for her, and then asked her out on a date when she came to the phone. This is bizarre behavior for an adult male.

Somethin'' isn't right somewhere. His answers were all over the place in Hannity's interview, and he simply did not sound as if he were being honest. His answers were ambiguous and deceptive to me.

The kikenvermin don't figure into my opinion of all this. I'm looking at all this solely based on the totality of the accusations, the comments from other adults at the time all this was supposedly going on, and Moore's own response.

One thing I want to say to you guys here is that you have a tendency to put all females into one box--one size fits all. You judge females based on your opinions, your way of doing things, your expectations of what females should do, when, and how.

You cannot do this.. Women respond differently, and as we age we become aware of things that happened way back in our childhood or teenage years that we may have never thought of before. And if you are a thoughtful person, you come to understand things that happened long ago. You may finally come to understand things that have had a profound effect on your life for decades. Some things become clear that you never understood. You may even remember things that you had never thought about for decades that open up your life and finally give you peace. You may remember things you had not thought about in decades that elucidate certain aspects of your life.

And sometimes you put things away in your mind and refuse to think about them. Females also respond differently at different times of their life. When I first moved over to the Atlanta area, I went to a double matinee at the Rhodes theater one Sunday afternoon. I was either 28 or 29. I remember standing out in the lobby in line to get something to drink and as I glanced around the room I noticed a young, blonde White male looking at me.

I didn't think anything of it, but when I got back to my seat, and the lights went down, and the movie started, all of a sudden this guy sat right next to me. There were people all around me, but I was on the end of the aisle and the seat next to me was empty. I was near the back too. I didn't look at him and no one said anything. All of a sudden he puts his right arm around my shoulders and starts touching my left breast with his left hand.

Needless to say, I was stunned. So stunned I couldn't do anything or say anything. Finally, after a few seconds I turned to him and said "please stop.". He said " okay", and after another few seconds he removed his arm from around me, and after another few seconds he got up and left. I was almost paralyzed with shock. I don't even remember if I told the manager. I think I did but I didn't report it to the police.

If that happened now, I'd probably smash the guy's face, elbow him so hard I'd break a rib, and scream loud enough to wake the dead.

Sometimes you find things out late in life that devastate you, and you know that you will never be the same person at all...ever. This has recently happened to me. At the age of 63, I found something devastating out about a family member that no one ever talked about.

Life's a long, weird trip. Stay awake for it. Be prepared as you get older to surprise yourself and never stop learning about what it is that makes you YOU.

I think it's creepy that he called her school and if he went to the mall just to checkout girls. If he was going to the mall just to troll for women regardless of their ages that's creepy. You don't go to a mall just to checkout women.

If he was there doing actual shopping and spotted this cute tart 18 year old and strikes up a conversation with her then that's different.

I'm the same age Moore was back then. Here in FL it's 18 (another bizarre Floriduh law) but if I saw a hot 19 or 20 year old and they talked to me then hell yes I'd be all over it and trying to score their number and facebook page.

I prefer younger women since I look very young for my age and women around my age think I'm too young.

I do think the age of consent should be 16. By then they're developed enough.

I think most can agree on age 16. It's how it used to be in most states anyway.

[N.B. Forrest]

My mother was pawed by her aunt's husband when she was a girl. Unlike Moore's accusers, she told on the bastard; the aunt went into crying hysterics, so the thing was allowed to slide. Still, she had the courage to do the right thing, not wait 40 years like a fool.

Moore's been a polarizing public figure for many years. Where were they when he was making national headlines with his anti-fag marriage stance & 10 Commandments bullshit?

[Jeffrey Smither]

Originally Posted by N.B. Forrest

My mother was pawed by her aunt's husband when she was a girl. Unlike Moore's accusers, she told on the bastard; the aunt went into crying hysterics, so the thing was allowed to slide. Still, she had the courage to do the right thing, not wait 40 years like a fool.

Moore's been a polarizing public figure for many years. Where were they when he was making national headlines with his anti-fag marriage stance & 10 Commandments bullshit?

I agree.

After the 10 Commandments bullshit how is he still taken seriously? A courthouse is not a fucking church.

[N.B. Forrest]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey Smither

I agree.

After the 10 Commandments bullshit how is he still taken seriously? A courthouse is not a fucking church.

He's a typical fanatic Christer patriotard; still, I support him, if only to thwart the kikes & DC cuck scum who're pulling out all the stops to shitcan him - and us.

[Jeffrey Smither]

Originally Posted by N.B. Forrest

He's a typical fanatic Christer patriotard; still, I support him, if only to thwart the kikes & DC cuck scum who're pulling out all the stops to shitcan him - and us.

Then if he does get elected senator he will be another uber Zionist anyway.