'Ten beers' Carney is allowed to keep driving

[HSN Nick]

Originally Posted by V.K.

I'm trying to arrange a meeting between us and the guys up in Toowoomba to solve the problem. Even if my Fuhrer doesn't come and gives me permission, I will travel up north to meet the men.

Well one of the Toowoomba lads contacted me about the meeting with you .It seems you are telling the truth about that .

I've gotta know why you call that inbred wanker with the shit tatts your Fuhrer ? According to the Crew 38/ Prospects and B&H lads , he's a complete peice of shit, who can't handle his booze . Why do you follow someone like this ? Surely you'd be better off on your own . Once you learn to show some respect to guys who've been around alot longer , and who have done alot more for the movement , maybe folks will start showing you some respect .

Thats the problem with most young blokes in the movement these days , they think because they have 1000 posts on some forum , that they're to be respected .

When I started out , if you tried to place yourself above old boys with a history of being active in the real world , you'd cop a right hook in the mouth . Anyway Pete , you should show some respect to your elders , learn from them. No offense , but at your age no one is going to take you seriously .

[V.K.]

Originally Posted by HSN Nick

Well one of the Toowoomba lads contacted me about the meeting with you .It seems you are telling the truth about that .

I've gotta know why you call that inbred wanker with the shit tatts your Fuhrer ? According to the Crew 38/ Prospects and B&H lads , he's a complete peice of shit, who can't handle his booze . Why do you follow someone like this ? Surely you'd be better off on your own . Once you learn to show some respect to guys who've been around alot longer , and who have done alot more for the movement , maybe folks will start showing you some respect .

The Fuhrer is not an inbred wanker nor is he a piece of shit. He is a good bloke. You guys just got the wrong impression of him. He is a real National Socialist and a true skinhead. I've been trying to fix things between the guys up in Toowoomba and Crows Nest and us in Warwick and the Fassifern Valley. Respect is what I want between us all. Co-operation, respect and probably even cormadeship. The nationalists and skinheads in my part of the world are now united and working together. You know who helped create that. The Fuhrer. I too have helped him. The Fuhrer wants co-operation, respect and comradeship between us and the guys up north. That is why I'm trying to meet with them tomorrow.

Thats the problem with most young blokes in the movement these days , they think because they have 1000 posts on some forum , that they're to be respected .

We have been doing a lot for the movement in the last three years. Australia First is now well known in the Warwick-Fassifern Valley. We got 52 votes here at the last election. What we need to do is to build on that. We will continue to co-operate with Australia First. That is one of the things that I want to discuss with the guys up north tomorrow.

When I started out , if you tried to place yourself above old boys with a history of being active in the real world , you'd cop a right hook in the mouth . Anyway Pete , you should show some respect to your elders , learn from them. No offense , but at your age no one is going to take you seriously .

I have total respect for the old guard. Respect is what we all want. The Fuhrer and us don't want to fight with anyone. We have spoken to each other about it and he has given me permission to travel to Toowoomba and discuss with the guys about the stuff. I will up up there tomorrow for the May Day Parade.

[Derrick MacThomas]

I have not met the man, but calling a skin in Warwick Der Fuhrer does not work for me.
Today Warwick, tomorrow the world?

[V.K.]

Originally Posted by Derrick MacThomas

I have not met the man, but calling a skin in Warwick Der Fuhrer does not work for me.
Today Warwick, tomorrow the world?

He doesn't actually live in Warwick any more. He lives in the Fassifern area but the Fassifern Valley is still apart of the Fourth Reich.

[Darius Appleby]

Originally Posted by Derrick MacThomas

I have not met the man, but calling a skin in Warwick Der Fuhrer does not work for me.
Today Warwick, tomorrow the world?

He obviously has a thing for him.

James Saleam is off the hook for now.

[HSN Nick]

Well , if you want any respect I would recommend not calling that trailer trash your leader . That guy is a complete gaylord . you're better off being your own leader , cause your mate is more than likely to cop a hiding next time any QLD skin runs to him .

[Derrick MacThomas]

Originally Posted by HSN Nick

Well , if you want any respect I would recommend not calling that trailer trash your leader . That guy is a complete gaylord . you're better off being your own leader , cause your mate is more than likely to cop a hiding next time any QLD skin runs to him .

This conversation has made me curious enough to want to meet this Fuhrer.

[V.K.]

Originally Posted by HSN Nick

Well , if you want any respect I would recommend not calling that trailer trash your leader . That guy is a complete gaylord . you're better off being your own leader , cause your mate is more than likely to cop a hiding next time any QLD skin runs to him .

The Fuhrer is respected by the skins and others. Under him, all the different groups were united and are now a very powerful force.

In the last three years since unification, the movement in the area has grown to a point where we are now considered a serious alternative to the mainstream. That is why I have total and abosolute loyalty and respect for the Fuhrer. With out him, unfication would never have happened and we would still be split fighting with each other. The Stalinist League would still exist.

I don't understand why you guys are so hostile to him. When I was attending the state conference of the Australia First Party, he called me and wanted me to put in a good word in for him with you guys.

He has total respect for Blood and Honour and for all the other skinhead groups in Australia.

Blood and Honour, Hammer Skins, Australia First would benfit if they respected him and did business with the man. The Fuhrer has no interest in making wars nor in provoking any one.

We are all National Socialists and proud skinheads. We should not be fighting each other and that is not what we want.

As I have said many times, all we want is co-operation, respect and comradeship.

[HSN Nick]

Originally Posted by V.K.

The Fuhrer is respected by the skins and others. Under him, all the different groups were united and are now a very powerful force.

In the last three years since unification, the movement in the area has grown to a point where we are now considered a serious alternative to the mainstream. That is why I have total and abosolute loyalty and respect for the Fuhrer. With out him, unfication would never have happened and we would still be split fighting with each other. The Stalinist League would still exist.

I don't understand why you guys are so hostile to him. When I was attending the state conference of the Australia First Party, he called me and wanted me to put in a good word in for him with you guys.

He has total respect for Blood and Honour and for all the other skinhead groups in Australia.

Blood and Honour, Hammer Skins, Australia First would benfit if they respected him and did business with the man. The Fuhrer has no interest in making wars nor in provoking any one.

We are all National Socialists and proud skinheads. We should not be fighting each other and that is not what we want.

As I have said many times, all we want is co-operation, respect and comradeship.

The guys from HSN and B&H have only met him once as far as I know , and that wasn't planned .

We don't claim to be saints ourselves , but this guy , from what I'm told , made a complete arse of himself .

If he is so great and almighty , why has no one in the movement had anything to do with him , outside of Warick ?

Just a question , are you this guys mouthpiece on the net ?

Why doesn't he post himself ?

[V.K.]

Originally Posted by HSN Nick

The guys from HSN and B&H have only met him once as far as I know , and that wasn't planned .

We don't claim to be saints ourselves , but this guy , from what I'm told , made a complete arse of himself .

If he is so great and almighty , why has no one in the movement had anything to do with him , outside of Warick ?

Just a question , are you this guys mouthpiece on the net ?

Why doesn't he post himself ?

I am the only person from the Warwick-Aratula-Boonah scene who posts on nationalist forums and has contacts with the movement outside of the area.

He doesn't want to be known on the internet nor does anybody else.

[HSN Nick]

Originally Posted by V.K.

I am the only person from the Warwick-Aratula-Boonah scene who posts on nationalist forums and has contacts with the movement outside of the area.

He doesn't want to be known on the internet nor does anybody else.

Well if he doesn't want to be known , hows he going to go about being a leader ?
I'm far from a leader myself , and I don't ever plan on being one , but I don't care who knows about me , on the internet or the real world .

If he's that scared , I would recommend you find a new "leader" .

[Darius Appleby]

This twat calls all the men he would like as his boyfriend "The Fuhrer".

[V.K.]

Originally Posted by HSN Nick

Well if he doesn't want to be known , hows he going to go about being a leader ?
I'm far from a leader myself , and I don't ever plan on being one , but I don't care who knows about me , on the internet or the real world .

If he's that scared , I would recommend you find a new "leader" .

Most people don't want to be known. If I had a choice and could change what I have done, I wouldn't be known as well. I would never have published my real name on the internet. But I was 14 when I did. As a 19 year old, I regret doing so.

[V.K.]

Originally Posted by Darius Appleby

This twat calls all the men he would like as his boyfriend "The Fuhrer".

No, I call my girlfriend who leads me around naked by my cock "Mein Fuhrer". I usual just wear my leather coat and nothing else. She loves grabbing my cock and leading me around the house when we're alone.

My mate is the Fuhrer but not in the way my girlfriend is.

[The Voice]

Wingnut,

The only girlfriend you have is Mrs Palmer.

[Darius Appleby]

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Todd Carney banned from driving for 12 months after 'abysmal' driving record

Lisa Davies, Chief Court Reporter
From: The Daily Telegraph May 18, 2011 12:59PM
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NRL player and Roosters star Todd Carney was found guilty of low range drinking at Waverley Court last month. Picture: Ross Schultz Source: The Daily Telegraph
ROOSTERS star Todd Carney has been banned from driving for 12 months and convicted of drink driving after police appealed an earlier decision arguing it was too lenient.

Tod Carney, who today gave evidence to the Sydney District Court, admitted his driving record was "disappointing" and he was "remorseful" for his actions.

But Judge Ron Solomon said Carney's driving record was "abysmal" and said he should be convicted and not get behind the wheel for a year.

"(Carney) has in the past been dealt with by the courts in respect of two mid-range (drinking) offences," he said.

"It appears there has been continuing disobedience by the offender in respect of his driving."

Last month, Magistrate Jacqueline Milledge gave the Sydney Roosters five-eighth a six-month suspended sentence and disqualified him from driving for 10 months at Waverley Local Court.

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But after realising she could not, under the law, sentence him to that, she later downgraded his punishment to a 24-month good behaviour bond.

She took into account his rehabilitation and a $10,000 fine and five-point plan already imposed by the Roosters.
Carney had claimed in court documents that he had consumed eight to 10 Hahn SuperDry beers between 7pm and 10.30pm on the evening of February 25 and eaten pizza with friends.

The 24-year-old playmaker, a P-plater with a string of previous driving offences including two other drink-driving convictions, then recorded a blood alcohol reading of 0.052 while driving from his Coogee apartment to the Sydney Football Stadium for a 7.30am meeting the next day.

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[Darius Appleby]

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Carney loses licence on police appeal

May 18, 2011 - 2:04PM
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Rugby league star Todd Carney has lost his driver's licence for a year after police won an appeal in his drink driving case.

The NRL Sydney Roosters player pleaded guilty to a low-range drink-driving offence after he was pulled over for a random breath test in the eastern suburb of Coogee about 7am on February 26.

He was put on a good behaviour bond in April, after the court heard details of his alcoholism and "shocking" driving record.

Magistrate Jacqueline Milledge warned the 2010 Dally M medallist not to put another foot wrong and said he was within "a hair's breadth" of being sent to prison.

But police appealed the "lenient" decision in the Downing Centre Local Court on Wednesday.

Judge Ron Solomon agreed and banned Carney from driving a car for a year after finding his driving record was "abysmal", News Limited has reported.

"(Carney) has in the past been dealt with by the courts in respect of two mid-range (drinking) offences," the judge is reported to have said.

"It appears there has been continuing disobedience by the offender in respect of his driving."

Carney, who gave evidence, admitted his driving record was disappointing and he was "remorseful" for his actions.

At the hearing in April, the court was told the 24-year-old was trying to turn his life around and had started a "positive lifestyle" program with The Salvation Army.

The court was told Carney "fell apart" when his father died, aged 57, after being diagnosed with dementia in 2006.

He was still on P-plates when he returned a blood alcohol level of 0.052 in March. P-plate drivers are not allowed to have any alcohol in their system while driving.

The court heard he had previous offences of drink-driving and dangerous driving and driving while disqualified.

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Carney fighting to save career

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Todd Carney faces a disciplinary hearing. Photo: Getty Images

Todd Carney will once again fight to save his NRL career when he fronts a Sydney Roosters disciplinary hearing into allegations of yet another alcohol-related indiscretion.

The Dally M medallist along with teammates Nate Myles and Frank-Paul Nuuausala will be asked to explain their actions on Wednesday morning after it was confirmed the trio had broken a team alcohol ban on Monday night.

‘‘The Sydney Roosters NRL playing squad made the commitment last week to avoid alcohol consumption for a two-week period,’’ the club said in a statement.

‘‘The club can confirm that the players were at two Eastern Suburbs establishments on Monday night.’’It was reported the club was notified of the escapade by a cab driver, who claimed he drove the players from one hotel to another about 2am (AEST) on Tuesday morning.

All three were named in the side to play St George Illawarra on Sunday, but it’s likely they will be stood down for the match as punishment.

That might not be the end of the matter for Carney, however, with the former Test representative believed to be on his last chance with the club after previous misdemeanours.

The club will certainly be under pressure from NRL chief executive David Gallop to take a firm stand after he was given personal assurances by Carney earlier this year that he would get his life back on track.

Gallop has already accepted Carney back into the NRL fraternity once after he was sacked by Canberra in 2008.

With no evidence of any anti-social conduct, Monday night’s breach would normally be viewed as a relatively minor affair - most likely resulting in a fine and short-term suspension.

But Carney has already been stood down once this year following a long drinking session with former teammate Anthony Watts in April.

While Watts has since been released without playing a game for the club, Carney was suspended with the Roosters declaring they would step up medical support for his alcohol-related issues.

At the time, Gallop said Carney’s blatant disregard for promises to stay away from alcohol showed how troubled the 25-year-old was.

‘‘To go to the (Kings) Cross, where he was bound to be seen, to me shows that he is very much a troubled person at the moment, and that makes me sad for him,’’ Gallop said in April.

On the surface, it appears little has changed, however, and his on-field performances are a shadow of the dizzying heights of 2010.

The Roosters refused to comment on what possible sanctions Carney was facing but, eventually, one last chance will prove to be just that.

There has always been a feeling that Carney’s obvious playing talents made the club more willing to put up with his indiscretions but, with his form on the wane and the Roosters battling to avoid the wooden spoon, this latest incident might finally prove the last straw.

That was the hard call made by Canberra three years ago, when Carney refused to accept a five-point rehabilitation plan.

He was sacked and banished to park football, with the NRL refusing to register another contract for him until 2010.

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[Darius Appleby]

How did the Australian Labor Party endorse Peter Watson as a candidate?