#1 Ukraine War thread (and Russia and Putin)

[Serbian]

Originally Posted by James L Walker

We have a stealth tyranny in the United States where the government will strike people with batons and imprison them all the while it smiles saying that it cares about their general well being.

One might say the tyranny in the United States is unique in that it has perfected the art of silent oppression and social engineering that no other nation can compare to.

There are many revolutionary souls like myself but we're currently unorganized and not unified.

Many of us hope that something abroad or within the general global economy will force the collapse of the United States government.

At the very least we hope the United States economy will crash soon making our own revolutionary activities that much easier.

Exactly, and that is why it is the most successful finely tuned well oiled smooth running tyranny in human history, as it makes its victims believe that they are the 'freest people on earth', a 'divine chosen by god nation'.

This is also very dangerous as with such indoctrination and mindset the population can easily be manipulated into going on global crusades to 'free' others from 'oppression'. Fighting 'nazi anti semites' 'commies' muslims and other enemies of 'our way of life' becomes the rallying slogan of every patriotard from sea to shining sea.

Did you see the last poll showing the US as the least anti semitic nation on earth? If kwans had any brains self respect or shame they would die of severe embarrassment at such a result.

[James L Walker]

Originally Posted by Serbian

Exactly, and that is why it is the most successful finely tuned well oiled smooth running tyranny in human history, as it makes its victims believe that they are the 'freest people on earth', a 'divine chosen by god nation'.

This is also very dangerous as with such indoctrination and mindset the population can easily be manipulated into going on global crusades to 'free' others from 'oppression'. Fighting 'nazi anti semites' 'commies' muslims and other enemies of 'our way of life' becomes the rallying slogan of every patriotard from sea to shining sea.

Did you see the last poll showing the US as the least anti semitic nation on earth? If kwans had any brains self respect or shame they would die of severe embarrassment at such a result.

If you only knew how sad and horribly successful their dumbing down the majority of the American population really is.

It's one of those things that cannot be explained to those living abroad in words. You have to be here and observe it for yourself to truly know about it.

[Serbian]

Ukraine’s Crisis, Not Ours

by Patrick J. Buchanan, February 21, 2014

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Richard Engel of NBC, reporting from Maidan Square in Kiev, described what he witnessed as the Feb. 19 truce collapsed.

Police began to back away from their positions in the square, said Engel. And the protesters attacked. Gunfire was exchanged and the death toll, believed to be in the dozens, is not known.

In short, the reality in Kiev is more complex than the black-and-white cartoon of Vladimir Putin vs. the freedom fighters drawn by our resident Russophobic elite. Perspective is in order.

First, though portrayed as a tyrannical thug, Viktor Yanukovych won the presidency of Ukraine in 2010 in what international observers called a free and fair election. He may not be Marcus Aurelius, but his remains the legitimate government.

Second, high among the reasons Yanukovych chose Russia’s offer to join its custom union over the EU is that Putin put a better deal on the table.

Moscow put up $15 billion in loans and cut-rate oil and gas. The EU offered some piddling loans and credits, plus a demand for reforms in the Ukrainian economy monitored by the IMF, but no commitment to full membership in the EU.

As for the “protesters” who came to Maidan Square in November, not all came simply to protest. Many set up tents and shacks, threw up barricades, seized government buildings, burned the headquarters of the ruling party, battled police and demanded the overthrow of the regime.

How many Western countries would permit a planned putsch in their capital city?

Still, after weeks of protest, Yanukovych offered to negotiate.

He fired his prime minister and tendered the post to the leader of the opposition Arseniy Yatsenyuk. He offered to make Vitali Klitschko, the ex-heavyweight champion and the head of another opposition party, the deputy prime minister. His offer was rejected.

Yanukovych then had parliament repeal the tough laws against protests he had had enacted and delivered a full amnesty to those arrested during the months of occupation. In effect, Yanukovych offered peace and a coalition government with his opponents until new presidential elections new year.

Does that sound like an unyielding tyrant?

Why was this unacceptable? Because the protesters want Yanukovych out, new elections now, and Ukraine reoriented toward Europe.

While the opposition has every right to urge this course, is not next year’s presidential election the place to decide the future of the country? What kind of democracy is it where a democratically elected president can be forced out of office by mobs?

When Mohammed Morsi, the elected president of Egypt, was ousted in a military coup last summer, backed by huge crowds in Tahrir Square, John Kerry said the army was “restoring democracy.”

Is this the new American concept of democracy, that when an elected government makes a major decision many dislike, the people should take to the streets and shut down the capital until the president reverses course or resigns?

President Obama is telling the Yanukovych government to respect the protesters. No violence. But how would Obama react if thousands of Tea Party members established an encampment on the Mall, burned down the DNC, occupied the Capitol and demanded he either repeal Obamacare or resign?

Would Barack Obama negotiate?

Russia has accused us of meddling in Ukraine’s internal affairs.

And when we see the State Department’s Victoria Nuland in Maidan Square egging on the protesters, and hear tape of Nuland discussing with the U.S. ambassador whom we want in the next Ukrainian government, do not the Russians have a point?

Under George W. Bush, our National Endowment for Democracy helped to engineer color-coded revolutions in Serbia, Ukraine, Georgia and Kyrgyzstan, but it failed in Belarus. We have a long track record of meddling.

And was it not interference in the internal affairs of Ukraine for John McCain to fly to Kiev, go down to Maidan Square, and do his best imitation of Mario Savio in Sproul Plaza?

If the Cold War is over, why are we playing these Cold War games?

Imagine where America would be today had the neocons gotten their way and brought Georgia and Ukraine into NATO.

We would have been eyeball-to-eyeball with Russia in the South Ossetian war of 2008, and eyeball-to-eyeball today over Kiev. Yet, in neither country is there any vital U.S. interest worth risking war with Russia.

What is coming in Ukraine, however, is likely to be far worse than what we have seen up to now. For this political crisis has deepened the divide between a western Ukraine that looks to Europe, and an east whose historic, linguistic, cultural and ethnic bonds are with Mother Russia.

With reports of police and soldiers in western Ukraine defecting from the government to join the rebellion, Ukraine could be a country sliding into civil war. If so, the spillover effects could be ominous.

But, to be candid, what happens in Ukraine has always been more critical to Moscow than it has ever been to us.

As Barack Obama said of Syria, this is “somebody else’s civil war.”

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[Alex Linder]

Originally Posted by procopius

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014...confrontation/

In an eight minute, 46 second speech at the National Press Club sponsored by the US-Ukraine Foundation, Chevron, and Ukraine-in-Washington Lobby Group, Nuland boasted that Washington has spent $5 billion to foment agitation to bring Ukraine into the EU. Once captured by the EU, Ukraine will be “helped” by the West acting through the IMF. Nuland, of course, presented the IMF as Ukraine’s rescuer, not as the iron hand of the West that will squeeze all life out of Ukraine’s struggling economy.

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According to RT, which has much more credibility than the US State Department (remember Secretary of State Colin Powell’s address to the UN setting up the US invasion of Iraq with his “evidence” of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, a speech Powell later disavowed as Bush regime disinformation), Ukrainian rioters have seized 1,500 guns, 100,000 rounds of ammunition, 3 machine guns, and grenades from military armories.

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Until Russia granted Ukraine independence in the early 1990s, Ukraine had experienced scant independence since the 14th century and had been a part of Russia for 200 years. The problem with the grant of independence is that much of Ukraine is not Ukrainian. It is Russian.

.......

The Ukrainian and Russian governments allowed this dangerous situation to develop, because they naively permitted for many years billions of US dollars to flow into their countries where the money was used to create fifth columns under the guise of educational and human rights organizations, the real purpose of which is to destabilize both countries. The consequence of the trust Ukrainians and Russians placed in the West is the prospect of civil and wider war.

Good post. That's what's going on. Serbian nailed it.

It's the usual kikes fomenting disorder in the usual way to the usual end.

[Alex Linder]

No need for the personal insults, Walker. Serbian is posting excellent stuff and well reasoned arguments. If you disagree, fine, but leave off the goat-fucking teenager crap.

[Alex Linder]

[a jew neocon warmonger of the first water; notice how left/right don't matter in the least]


Victoria Nuland

Victoria Jane Nuland is the Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs at the United States Department of State.

Born: 1961, Connecticut
Spouse: Robert Kagan
Parents: Sherwin B. Nuland
Education: Choate Rosemary Hall, Brown University

Victoria Jane Nuland (born 1961) is the Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs at the United States Department of State.

Nuland is the daughter of Yale bioethics and medicine professor Sherwin B. Nuland, the family's original surname being Nudelman. One of Victoria's grandfathers was Meyer Nudelman from a family of Jewish immigrants who came to New York City from the Russian Empire [2].

Victoria Nuland graduated from Choate Rosemary Hall in 1979 and has a B.A. from Brown University. Nuland is married to historian Robert Kagan, with whom she has two children. Nuland says that she speaks Russian, French, and some Chinese.

Career

Nuland is a career Senior Officer of the United States Foreign Service and has worked for both Democratic and Republican administrations. During the Bill Clinton administration, Nuland was chief of staff to Deputy Secretary of State Strobe Talbott before moving on to serve as deputy director for former Soviet Union affairs. During the George W. Bush administration, she served as the principal deputy foreign policy adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney and then as U.S. ambassador to NATO. During the Barack Obama administration, she was special envoy for Conventional Armed Forces in Europe before assuming the position of State Department spokesperson in summer 2011, which she held until February 2013.[3]

Assistant Secretary

She was nominated to serve as Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs in May 2013 and sworn in to fill that role in September 2013.[4]

Misconduct and controversy[edit]

2012 Benghazi attack

Nuland has emerged as one of the key figures who have been accused by various sources of initiating a cover up of the 2012 Benghazi attack. After reading the first draft of the State Department talking points that stated that the incident was a coordinated terrorist attack, she sent a message writing that they "could be abused by members of Congress to beat the State Department for not paying attention to agency warnings so why would we want to seed the Hill."[5] After this memo former United States Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice was given talking points that formed the basis of her statements on This Week with George Stephanopoulos,[6] Meet the Press,[7] State of the Union with Candy Crowley,[8] and Fox News Sunday.[9][10] Critics had argued that Nuland's nomination as Assistant Secretary of State would come up against firm opposition from Republicans, based on her role in the Benghazi controversy.[11]

2014 Nuland's obscene reference to the European Union[edit]

On February 6, 2014,[nb 1] Nuland made an obscene reference to the European Union which caused a diplomatic scandal when her January 28, 2014 telephone conversation with the United States Ambassador to Ukraine, Geoffrey R. Pyatt, was broadcast on YouTube.[13][nb 2] Nuland was discussing with Pyatt the role of the Ukrainian opposition leaders in the country’s government and the crises in Ukraine. Nuland insulted Vitali Klitschko and said he should not be allowed into the government because he was too inexperienced.[15] Subsequently, Nuland stated that she preferred the United Nations as mediator, instead of the European Union, adding "Fuck the E.U." and Pyatt responded, "Oh, exactly ...".[nb 3][16][17][18] "She has been in contact with her EU counterparts, and of course has apologized", State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said.[19][nb 4] A spokeswoman for EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton stated on the same day that the EU would not comment on a "leaked alleged" conversation.[14][nb 5] The next day a spokeswoman, Christiane Wirtz, stated that German Chancellor Angela Merkel termed Nuland's remark "absolutely unacceptable".[23][26][27][28] Furthermore, the president of the European Council, Herman Van Rompuy, has also condemned the remark as "unacceptable".[29] Le Monde newspaper has labeled the familiarity with which she referred to the leaders of the Ukrainian opposition ("Yats" for Arseniy Yatsenyuk, "Klitsch" for Vitali Klitschko) as clumsiness and even arrogance.[29]

Wikipedia (Links)

Victoria_Nuland

[Alex Linder]

[appears not to be a jew, certainly a neocon pushing the jew agenda]


Geoffrey R. Pyatt

Born 1963
La Jolla, California, U.S.[2]
Spouse(s) Mary[3]
Children William and Claire[3]
Profession Career FSO
Geoffrey R. Pyatt (born 1963),[2] is the current United States Ambassador to Ukraine.[1] Pyatt's U.S. State Department career landed him posts in Asia, Europe, and Latin America.[1]

Pyatt was born 1963 in La Jolla, an affluent neighborhood of San Diego, California.[2] Pyatt received his bachelor’s degree in political studies in 1985 at the University of California, Irvine, and a master’s degree in international relations at Yale University in 1987.[2][4]

Career[edit]

Pyatt started his diplomatic career in Honduras, from 1990 till 1992 he worked as vice-consul and economic officer in Tegucigalpa.[2] The highest position (before his current post) was deputy chief of diplomatic mission in India in 2006 and 2007.[2] After that he worked as deputy chief of U.S. mission to International Atomic Energy Agency and other international organizations in Vienna.[2] Prior to his current position Pyatt served as Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of the Bureau of South and Central Asian Affairs from May 2010 until July 2013.[1][2]

Pyatt took the Oath of Office of United States Ambassador to Ukraine on July 30, 2013 in the Harry S Truman Building of the US State Department in Washington, D.C.[2] Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych accepted Pyatt's credentials on August 15, 2013.[1] After his appointment, Pyatt started actively studying the Ukrainian language.[2] On October 15, 2013 Pyatt attended an international conference on fighting anti-Semitism in Kiev; but could not address the audience at the event due to the United States federal government shutdown of 2013.[5] Pyatt became part of a diplomatic scandal in January 2014, when his conversation with the Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs at the United States Department of State, Victoria Nuland, was apparently intercepted and uploaded to YouTube.[6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoffrey_R._Pyatt

[Alyss]

Jews starting another world war to kill more white people, in the mean time, making more money. Same old jews!

[Alex Linder]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/21/world/...aine-protests/

[N.B. Forrest]

Nuland is the daughter of Yale bioethics and medicine professor Sherwin B. Nuland, the family's original surname being Nudelman. One of Victoria's grandfathers was Meyer Nudelman from a family of Jewish immigrants who came to New York City from the Russian Empire [2].

Yeah - we can trust this shebe whose rat-ancestors were "poisecuted" by the Tsar & the Russian peasants to advance a wise, cautious, unbiased course of action in this Ukraine crisis. Sure...

Absolutely nothin' but kikes, kikes, kikeskikeskikes kiketty-KIKES from pole to pole....

[Serbian]

Jew rat Ariel Cohen of Neocon Heritage Foundation urges action against democratically elected Ukrainian government. Cohen is certainly not showing any concern about the so called 'Nazis' fascists and anti semites at Maidan, which is rather strange considering jews are always on the lookout for 'anti semitism' and 'hate'. Of course it is not strange as this jew knows the plan for Ukraine.

Article is typical biased jew horseshit

Yanukovich’s Brutal Crackdown in Ukraine: Why the U.S. Should Act

Ariel Cohen



The worst crisis since the wars in Yugoslavia is convulsing Eastern Europe. Ukraine is on the brink of a civil war, and Russian intervention may be possible despite the Sochi Olympics. An East-West confrontation may be imminent.

On Tuesday, the brutal Berkut riot police stormed the main anti-government protest camp at the Independence Square (Maidan). Twenty-two people were killed and hundreds wounded. Violence is spreading beyond the ancient capital Kyiv to the country’s nationalist West.

The attack began as the Ukrainian Parliament was due to debate the return to the constitution of 2004, which would limit presidential powers. However, the presidential Party of Regions refused to debate the amendments and triggered violent protests — just hours after the Kremlin went through with $2 billion in Ukrainian government’s junk bond purchases to aid Ukraine President Viktor Yanukovich. This is a part of a bigger $15 billion aid packet that Moscow promised.

Ukrainians have been protesting in the country’s capital, Kiev, since late November, when Yanukovich refused to sign an Association Agreement with the EU. Yanukovich on several occasions tried to crack down on the demonstrators using riot police and “titushki” – pro-government plainclothes thugs who infiltrate the protesters’ ranks in order to provoke clashes and justify police violence.

Yanukovich is reaping what he has sowed. On Jan. 16, pro-Yanukovich members of parliament passed sweeping anti-protest legislation. This move only intensified demonstrations, which spread beyond Kiev, even to the pro-Yanukovich eastern and southern Ukraine. The president backed down and reversed the anti-demonstration legislation.

Russian President Vladimir Putin used Ukraine’s outstanding gas debt to Russia of $2.7 billion to put pressure on Yanukovich to continue the crackdown during the presidents’ meeting in Sochi on Feb. 7.

Russia is willing to use its vast oil revenues to bring Ukraine to heel. The question is whether Russia would be willing to use its military force – overtly or covertly. On Jan. 30, one of Putin’s advisors accused the U.S. of arming the protesters and threatened Russia’s intervention to maintain “security” in Ukraine. It is likely that Russia will encourage Yanukovich to continue to use force against the protesters. It is unclear, though, if he succeeds.

Ukraine is strategically important. It has a massive industrial base; abundant agriculture; and a lengthy shoreline along the Black Sea. It also borders four NATO allies: Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, and Romania. Russia covets it for its renewed sphere of influence.

A lot is riding on next steps by the U.S. and our European allies. Washington has to exhibit strong leadership to resolve the crisis in Ukraine peacefully – and in accordance to strategic U.S. interests. It should call for an immediate cessation of government brutality and violence and helping Ukrainians to map out a path to a constitutional reform and the new elections this spring.

America and the Europeans should work with international and Ukrainian non-governmental organizations to document human rights violations committed by Ukrainian leadership and law enforcement authorities.

U.S. and our European allies should impose targeted sanctions, such as asset freezes and visa bans against all Ukrainian officials responsible for violence against protesters. The U.S. Congress is demanding as much

Finally, the U.S. and its European partners should support an IMF bailout package only if conditioned on massive economic reform by a new government, and the release of all political prisoners, including former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko, without any preconditions.

The world is looking at Kyiv.

The U.S. needs to show leadership.

http://blog.heritage.org/2014/02/19/...kdown-ukraine/




Jew rat Ariel Cohen

[James L Walker]

Originally Posted by Alex Linder

No need for the personal insults, Walker. Serbian is posting excellent stuff and well reasoned arguments. If you disagree, fine, but leave off the goat-fucking teenager crap.

We've settled our differences respectively I believe more recently.

[procopius]

Originally Posted by James L Walker

Why can't these Putinphiles get this through their heads?

Why can't Putinphobes understand that they share the same distrust of Putin as Jews, Liberals, & Neo-cons. Really, they think Putin's a bad guy because he's not letting Homophiles do what they want. At least the lower level "Jews, Liberals, & Neo-cons" think that, but really it's because bad boy Putin isn't allowing the US/Israel/EU get their way on the world stage anymore. This is why US media hates the Winter Olympics and looks for every flaw to make Russia and Putin look bad.

It seems that some people think Putin's an enemy because he's not a neo-nazi want-to-be that's putting Jews and non-Whites in concentration camps. You know why Putin is successful, because he doesn't act like Craig Cobb. In case you don't know, you can be enemy of International Jewry and not be a White Nationalist, you can help White people and not even be a White Nationalist, and you can be Nationalist and not be a White Nationalist. No one is accusing Putin of being a White Nationalist or much less a secret Nazi. The Russias have far too much pride (like the US does) in defeating the Germans in WWII, Putin would never be in power, if he took the side of Germans in WWII. Putin's a smart man that slowly but surely defeats his enemies, Craig Cobb's a fool that got himself thrown in jail (even after sane people warned him).

[Pierre-Marc]

Varg Vikernes on Ukraine
http://thuleanperspective.com/2014/0...-men-marching/

Alas! Another nation is brought to its knees by the scheming of the Judeo-Christian Zionists, and is going down in chaos. The future of Ukraine is 100% certain now: eternal slavery for the Zionist bankers.

Beware! They plan the same for the rest of our Europe.

In Ukraine they have provoked this situation using the EU and NATO in particular. In “Western” Europe they will use other means, other excuses, but they seek the same outcome, and our nations too will be sent into chaos — unless our enemies are stopped before that.

[NewsFeed]

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Ukrainian Peace Deal? Ha!

Andrew Anglin

Daily Stormer

February 21, 2014

The poor dears. Shot by the government, simply for trying to violently take down the state and install a Jewish dictatorship.

Oh joy of joys, a peace deal has been reached!

You can read the details of this great victory of democracy in the Jew York Times , if you care to. I don’t care to outline it here, because this is only going to last until Monday at the latest.

This is the exact same thing that these Jews do everywhere. Look at Syria, where they say they will negotiate with Assad, then just keep shooting, because oh, negotiations must in in total surrender, or they aren’t really negotiations.

“Say hello to freedom, gojim. Now we burn the church to stop the patriarchy that is oppressing you, gojim.” -Vitali Klitschko

Though Yanukovich has agreed to early elections in December, there is no way a bunch of savages throwing bombs at the behest of a smooth talking Jew revolutionary are simply going to bow out. The leaders have signed an agreement, but the rabble aren’t going to go home while goyim still hold high office. Especially not while they’re being paid to protest. The Jew media is basically admitting that the agreement has no meaning at all.

Oh and joy of joy of joys: the great deal, brought about by these heroic freedom fighters, will result in the release of the imprisoned criminal Jew Yulia Tymoshenko, who tried to throw this same Jewish coup in the Ukraine a decade ago! What a victory for freedom, that the convicted gas-embezzler capitalist/revolutionary communist Jewess will be back on the street, to help her kinsman Vitaly Klitschko bring freedom to the Ukraine!

“I’m back, gojim. Now we shall proceed to burn the church and liberate you from the patriarchy.” -Yulia Tymoshenko

Russia did not sign.

Anti-Putin Conspiracy Theories are Nonsensical Jewish Gibberish

I have criticized Putin before, and probably will again, but the weird conspiracy theories that are being posted all over the internet about him make absolutely zero sense. These theories, as I understand them, follow the idea that Putin is completely controlled by Jews, and everything he does is planned by Jews – nothing is real, it is all staged for the masses. The evidence for this consists of the fact that he has been publicly friendly with Jews in certain instances.

I do not support his public friendliness to Jews. But was it staged when he stopped the Jews from pushing the US into war with Syria? Were AIPAC, Israel and Obama faking it when they demanded Syria be invaded? How does that make any sense at all? What about the present situation in the Ukraine? Is Putin only faking it when he pretends he doesn’t want that nation to be handed over to the Jews?

It is almost a “crisis actor” type of theory, when you argue that no aspect of geopolitics is real, everything being part of a secret plot, even when that doesn’t make any logical sense and no one is even trying to explain it.

He is no Hitler, but name another modern leader who has done as much good as Vladimir Putin?

What about when he reestablished the power of the Church in Russia? What about banning the gays? What about rounding up Muslim immigrants? What about returning Russia to prominence, pulling the people out of the poverty brought on them by communism?

The overwhelming majority of the Russian people support him.

What has he done that is so wrong? Granted that he is not a hardcore nationalist, but he is a practical nationalist. The fact that he has banned the more hardcore nationalist organizations simply means that he is making sure they do not present a threat to his own power. Maybe these nationalist groups would do a better job than him at running Russia – I have no idea – but banning them has nothing to do with the Jews.

Why does the Jewish media do nothing but attack him?

All of this is staged? Who is this being staged for? A small group of internet activists? What would be the purpose?

I am starting to believe that while some of those promoting this idea are simply confused, and haven’t really thought it through very well, the ones chanting it on forums and in comments sections are probably Jews. It simply does not follow, in any sort of logical manner, and the fact that it makes so little sense, and yet is chanted by so many, leads me to believe there is someone pushing it.

Pravy Sektor is a Jewish Front

Here you have alleged “Ukrainian nationalists” claiming that the Jewish EU coup is somehow part of a plan to bring back traditionalism to Ukraine.

Even if you believe in some baseless conspiracy theory about Putin being a “tool of the Jews,” feeding into the Alex Jones-style “everything is controlled by secret Illuminati – they play both sides!” type of paranoiac worldview, surely the Ukrainian Nationalists have an obligation to deal foremost with the actual Jews presently in the process of overthrowing their country?

Why are they instead supporting, fully, a Jewish revolution? Even accepting money from the Jews, and working alongside Israeli terrorists ?

The organization has only existed since November, and it’s leadership is made up almost exclusively of members of Svoboda

Here you have John McCain, ambassador of Neo-Israel, meeting with the great Antisemitic Nationalist leader of Svoboda, Oleh Tyahnybok. That’s Chris Murphy on the left.

The whole thing is a blatant Jewish plot to use nationalist-minded Ukrainians – who appear confused about the fact that they are in fact a part of Russia – to push the Ukraine into the EU.

The Ukraine is Not a Country

The Ukraine was never in history considered a country before the fall of the USSR, save when it was ruled by Cossacks at various points (Cossacks now support Putin, and whip women for attacking him). It has always been either a territory of Russia, the Turks or the Austro-Hungarians. And the Eastern half has always been Russia.

What you are seeing in Maidan is a very small percentage of the Ukrainian population. The protes

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read full article at source: http://www.dailystormer.com/ukrainian-peace-deal-ha/

[Fred]

I don't know much about what is going on there. I do know that the Power kikes are most likely betting on both sides.

[Dan Hadaway]

Originally Posted by Fred

I don't know much about what is going on there. I do know that the Power kikes are most likely betting on both sides.

Exactly, what do they care? Goyim die regardless of the outcome.

[James L Walker]

Originally Posted by procopius

Why can't Putinphobes understand that they share the same distrust of Putin as Jews, Liberals, & Neo-cons. Really, they think Putin's a bad guy because he's not letting Homophiles do what they want. At least the lower level "Jews, Liberals, & Neo-cons" think that, but really it's because bad boy Putin isn't allowing the US/Israel/EU get their way on the world stage anymore. This is why US media hates the Winter Olympics and looks for every flaw to make Russia and Putin look bad.

It seems that some people think Putin's an enemy because he's not a neo-nazi want-to-be that's putting Jews and non-Whites in concentration camps. You know why Putin is successful, because he doesn't act like Craig Cobb. In case you don't know, you can be enemy of International Jewry and not be a White Nationalist, you can help White people and not even be a White Nationalist, and you can be Nationalist and not be a White Nationalist. No one is accusing Putin of being a White Nationalist or much less a secret Nazi. The Russias have far too much pride (like the US does) in defeating the Germans in WWII, Putin would never be in power, if he took the side of Germans in WWII. Putin's a smart man that slowly but surely defeats his enemies, Craig Cobb's a fool that got himself thrown in jail (even after sane people warned him).

I'm not even a national socialist myself so bringing all of that up is pretty much redundant to me.

What does this conversation have to do with Craig Cobb exactly?

Putin has been caught giving lip service to the Jews several times and the vision of a Eurasian Russian federation I think will mimic the European Union in several ways where soon enough because of his policies white ethnic Russians will see a foreign invasion of their country eventually.

[Stephen De Grene]

Originally Posted by procopius

Why can't Putinphobes understand that they share the same distrust of Putin as Jews, Liberals, & Neo-cons. Really, they think Putin's a bad guy because he's not letting Homophiles do what they want. At least the lower level "Jews, Liberals, & Neo-cons" think that, but really it's because bad boy Putin isn't allowing the US/Israel/EU get their way on the world stage anymore. This is why US media hates the Winter Olympics and looks for every flaw to make Russia and Putin look bad.

It seems that some people think Putin's an enemy because he's not a neo-nazi want-to-be that's putting Jews and non-Whites in concentration camps. You know why Putin is successful, because he doesn't act like Craig Cobb. In case you don't know, you can be enemy of International Jewry and not be a White Nationalist, you can help White people and not even be a White Nationalist, and you can be Nationalist and not be a White Nationalist. No one is accusing Putin of being a White Nationalist or much less a secret Nazi. The Russias have far too much pride (like the US does) in defeating the Germans in WWII, Putin would never be in power, if he took the side of Germans in WWII. Putin's a smart man that slowly but surely defeats his enemies, Craig Cobb's a fool that got himself thrown in jail (even after sane people warned him).

So what makes Putin a white nationalist, is it his support of non-white mass immigration into Russia? His banning of nationalist parties? His prohibition of racialist and national socialist literature and speech through "hate speech" laws. Is it the fact that he has had jewish oligarchs revolving in an out of high government positions? Or is it that he bails out these kike parasites with taxpayer money? Which of these makes him the savior of the white race?

So what if he hates faggots? The USSR had much stiffer laws against faggotry, would you have supported them to? A lot of evangelical neo-cons hate faggots, so do you support the likes of Rick Santorum as well?

And who the fuck here is talking about Craig Cobb? What the fuck does he have to do with this?

Look, if you support making Ukraine an asiatic muslim shithole run by oligarchs than be my guest. But don't call yourself a white nationalist if you don't even bother researching the facts about Putin and how he is just as much our enemy as the USA/EU.

[Stephen De Grene]

Nationalists are continuing the fight...

However, the extremist Right Sector group, which led the clashes with police in recent weeks and wrecked a truce earlier this week, has immediately rejected the accord.

The far right group dismissed the deal as “another whitewash” because it fell short of the opposition’s demands for Mr. Yanukovych’s immediate resignation, dissolution of the Parliament, prosecution of the security services chief and a ban on Mr. Yanukovych’s Party of the Regions and the Communist Party.

“National revolution continues,” Dmitro Yarosh, the Right Sector leader said in a statement posted online.



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