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Also just to add Germans were relative newcomers to Vojvodina .when Hungarians arrived in central Europe Vojvodina was exclusively settled by Slavs(Serbs) not Germans. Having said that of course I dont support what the Croat communist Tito did after WW2 removing Germans, but it must also be said that many of the Germans chose to leave as they didn't want to live under Croat communist Tito who their British Germanic brothers helped install in Yugoslavia. Brits ruined massacred and destroyed Germany not Serbs buddy. Serbs were minding their own business in their own land. And keep in mind Germans were expelled by Croatian communist Tito not by the Serbian king, under who they lived peacefully. Also Tito's communists murdered hundreds of thousands of Serbs who were sympathetic to the monarchy so this victimhood goes both ways
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The main problem, in my opinion, is that so many anti-Serbian posters also support the jewish agenda: they repeat neocon, anti-Russian propaganda that’s excreted by the crooked jewish media, they side with jew-controlled Ukraine’s death squads who torture and murder citizens whose only crime is that they don’t want to be ruled by jewish gangsters. Some of these anti-Serbian posters even praise anti-white shitbags like Bill Cunton and John "Insane" McCain. For this reason anti-Serbian posters are treated with suspicion here on VNN, and that’s why I’m reluctant to involve myself in Balkan discussions, so I just sigh and roll my eyes when certain posters call Serbian soldiers "heroes of the white race" (or some such nonsense) and move on to the next thread. It’s just not worth the hassle to defend yourself from accusations of being a jewish troll, an enemy infiltrator, etc. Quote:
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https://balkaninsight.com/2016/04/21...ds-04-21-2016/ Parrot some more of Christiane Amanpour's talking points Stewart. Quote:
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Vistually any WN site since 1999 treats Serbs as heroes because of the conflict with NATO involvement, ignoring the whole prehistory of Balkan wars. Not forgetting that during Yugoslavian aggression against Croatia, the sympathy of far-righters world wide was on our Croat side. |
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If Uncle Joe and his partisan brothers lost the fight and chetniks won, same would happen anyway, just the labels and flags of Serbian empire would be slightly different. It doesn't justify your people who murdered Danubia Swabs for being German. However the mutual hatred between germans and Serbs existed before WWII, in your kingdom their rights were restricted. |
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Of course, that's just one of many examples. All the Croatian nationalists/patriots that I've come into contact with despise Tito and are ashamed that he was part-Croatian (although there are those who claim that he was a crypto-jew masquerading as a Croat). I think it's fitting that he was buried in Serbia's capital, Belgrade (which was also the capital of Yugoslavia, by the way), and that he had a Serbian wife. In any case, the Croats tried to free themselves from the artificial NWO monstrosity called Yugoslavia, and the Serbs did everything in their power to stop them. That's what led to the Croatian War of Independence. Quote:
If Croats criticize Serbs living in their country, then organized jewry will attack these Croats and demand that they be prosecuted for "hate speech", and the jew-lackeys in Croatian media will quickly join in. For example, Ivo Goldstein, who is a well-known and influential leader in Croatia's jewish community, and who regularly agitates against his Croatian host people by accusing them of being racists, fascists, etc., is a Serb defender. Here's an excerpt from an interview in which Goldstein attacks Croatian nationalists, expresses his support for Serbs and compares anti-Serbian sentiments in today's Croatia to anti-jewish sentiments in the 1940s: Quote:
(The article is in Croatian, which means that Serbian VNN members can understand it since Croatian and Serbian are basically the same language, although there are some minor differences. American members can use Google translate, if they want.) Croats are attacked and persecuted in their own country by organized jewry for criticizing Serbs, whereas Serbs in Croatia are free to behave like scumbags without anybody batting an eyelash. Let me give you an example of what I'm talking about: I've spent many summers in Croatia, so I'm quite familiar with the country's tourism industry, and I've had the misfortune of coming into contact with Serbian "guest workers" who are employed at hotels and restaurants. The only words that I can use to describe these people are "pieces of garbage". And no, I'm not talking about gypsies who happened to be born in Serbia, but ethnic European/white Serbs. They behave badly, have no respect for the locals, don't clean up after themselves, they're bad/lazy workers, and some clients are so put off by them that they never return to the establishment in question. Yet the owners – who are in some (or most?) cases foreigners – keep rehiring these Serbs summer after summer. The locals are completely different from the Serbian "guest workers". The locals are generally polite and many of them speak German and Italian in addition to English (which is necessary if you work in the tourism sector since Germans, Austrians and Italians constitute the majority of the clients), whereas the Serbs are usually low-IQ trash who only speak Serbian and a little broken English. I'm not saying that all Serbs in Croatia are like that. I obviously haven't met every single one of them, or visited every nook and cranny of the country. I'm talking about my own experiences and what other people have told me. What's especially troubling, though, is that if Croats criticize these people and say that maybe, just maybe, it's not such a good idea to import them into their country, then the jews and their lackeys in Croatian media and politics will attack them and accuse them of "hate speech". Great system, huh? P.S. I could easily write about Serbs' bad behavior and crimes in other European countries, but that would be off topic since this thread is about Croatia. P.P.S. Yes, I know that most people won't read this long post. It was supposed to be shorter, but... Sorry. Last edited by Stewart Meadows; October 17th, 2019 at 06:15 PM. |
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Ivo Goldstein, who is an influential jewish leader and academic in Croatia, defends Serbs and attacks Croatian nationalists as well as Italian nationalists. And he even uses his tribe's most powerful weapon, i.e. he plays the Shlomocaust card by saying that anti-Serbian sentiments in today's Croatia remind him of anti-jewish sentiments in the 1940s. That's...interesting, to say the least. |
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So you are a croat. Good to know
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The Gospić massacre, the killing of 100–120 Serb civilians in Gospić, Croatia October 1991 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospić_massacre Paulin Dvor Massacre Eight women and eleven men, ranged from 41 to 85. Imagine killing grandmothers in their 80s like Croats did https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulin_Dvor_massacre I can go on and on..... Pakrac massacre, Maslenica massacre, Sisak killings, Donji Lapac killings, Biskupija massacre near Knin, Uzdolje massacre also near Knin, Dvor massacre , Kistanje massacre, Grubori massacre, Varivode massacre where Croat soldiers massacred nine elderly Serb civilians in the village of Varivode, even though the war was over, massacres of Serbs in Vukovar, murders in Zagreb like of the prominent Zec family, etc, etc.... These are just a few off the top of my head. Croatia was given untied hands by the jews the EU and Clinton while Belgrade was threatened with NATO bombings if it sent the Yugoslav army in to help besieged Serbs I'll respond to more of your rubbish later when I have time You know its funny what a contradiction your politics is. You claim to support the Donbass rebels and be opposed to Maidan while at the same time supporting Maidans in ex Yugoslavia . The jew instigated war in Yugo was our Maidan
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You as clandestine supporter of NATO/ZOG occupation of Serbia can rest easily knowing these facts You are a total fraud 'Stuart'.
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You friend Bernard Henri Levy also has long history of anti Serbian activity as you know.
And it wasn't Shlomo's Hollywood portraying croats as evil Nazis but Serbs. Hymie was pumping them out and no doubt you were very impressed 'Stuart' Jewish Hollywood satanization of the Serbian nation https://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=91374&page=3
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List of massacres in the Croatian War of Independence.
Serb committed atrocities dominate in the list by number and by killed Croats victims. |
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If you think that the Škabrnja massacre was a legitimate military operation, then there’s not much more I can say. I’ll just let our readers draw their own conclusions.
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Well, I’m sorry, but I can’t do that. It has always been my aim to get along with all VNN posters (except for obvious pro-jewish trolls/propagandists), but I’m not going to sacrifice my intellectual integrity just to get a couple of thumbs up from Serbian members. If that makes me a "total fraud", then so be it. Quote:
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Slovenia soon celebrates the Day of Statehood, and the political party The Slovenian Democratic Party (SDS), chaired by former Prime Minister Janez Janša, decided to send the Slovenes their billboards to congratulate the festival. in which a Serbian/Yugoslav soldier with raised arms as a sign of surrender.
The dissolution of the SFR Yugoslavia and the beginning of the war, which claimed hundreds of thousands of lives, began with a referendum on 23 December 1990 in Slovenia. The end of the vote brought results in which 95 percent of Slovenes decided to vote for independence. These results were created by the constitutional charter on the sovereignty and independence of the Republic of Slovenia on June 25, 1991, and thus its unilateral independence. Two days later, the JNA units decided not to allow such an epilogue at the expense of the war and the collapse of the SFR of Yugoslavia, and on June 27, 1991, there was a conflict between the JNA forces and the newly formed Slovenian territorial defense , led by Janez Janša and Igor Bačvar. A conflict that lasted for about ten days resulted in more than 60 casualties among more than 300 wounded and eventually the army's withdrawal, recalled Blic. With a few months' difference, the Croats opted for a similar move. The split of the Federation and the official declaration of the Socialist Republic of Croatia by the Parliament on 19 May 1991 in a referendum with 94.7 percent of the votes were taken on 8th October of the same year. |
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I have time for answer on thesis by user Serbian on post who is posted in
October 6th, 2019 10:32 AM. Broz (last name of Tito what is tittle as fuhrer) was Yugoslav nationalist,his grave is in Belgrade as grave of their Yugoslav king,not in Croatia . Yugoslavia was Creatad in London by English freemasonry who put their Freemason serbian noble dinastry known as Aleksandar Karađorđević who had been killed by Ustashas in Marseille. Yugoslavia in time between 1918.-1941. was serbian dream land and proof of that are serbian Chetnicks of Draža Mihailović as only national legal army. After Hitler had attacked Belgrade because Brits influence want to destalibize Balkan area,Serbs formed new group of pro-Hitler Chetnicks with their leader Milan Nedic for saving Serbia. Miland Nedic was loyal to Freemason Yugoslavia and after Germans came in Belgrade,he changed his oppinion,he is serbian version of Vikdun Quisling. Broz after 1945. expelled,looted and killed Croats (better working class,middle class and upper class) not just in Bleiburg but also after that,he establish communist liquidation order something as Mossad have in Israel who killed and spying Croats across the world,they always have big eye on Croats anti-communist organizations autside the world. Yugoslavia was on the beginning serbian state with full of serbian domination,chief possition had Serbs not just in monarchist perion then also in communist too. What Yugoslavia mean for Serbia it is example how offically Serbs attack Croatia as Yugoslavia who still existed as state after war in 1990. was over, it was war Yugoslavia vs Croatia offically where Croats fought against pan-slavism who was just mask for Great Serbia. Whole world gave support to Yugoslavia with the beginning in 1990.,croatian president Franjo Tuđman rejected Yugoslavia and he was bombed with whole croatian government by Yugoslavs as Muammar al-Gaddafi in Libia on his time see this: Quote:
That is reason why Croats want European Union and NATO,for move us from the balkan garbage and put again to the civilized world. Modern croatian alt-right support Internarium project however,I think that would revival of Austro-Hungarian empire with the german king like Habsburg dinastry was better for Croatia,it was really strong economic force,even old Austrians think soo what is reason why USA and Russia crushed such Empire in ww1. Austria,Germany,Slovenia,SLovakia all states who fought for Hitler in ww2, had same Versaille situation after ww1 today employ Croats who are going work outside because here still exist balkan yugoslav mentality. Interesting is how user Serbian living in SLovenia who are in EU,well why he do not live in Serbia? Maybe he think that he live in alpine part of Serbia because serbian woodoo nationalits think that are Slovenians alpine Serbs and that is whole ex-Yugoslavia Great Serbia. Why he work forg ZOG when he earn salary for them? Millions of Croats (approximately 3 million) because of Tito communist living outside Croatia and in future will be more and more because Croats because of such communist who are still on power can not have children,and they have poor wages because of that,precisely because of big public sector and communist judiicary where exist laws from ex-communist Yugoslavia with same courts,Croats have children in Germany and other states because in Croatia every competent person who can become private owner are Slavic Kulak who must be killed,I personally also have problem with them because of my better class possition and this is reason why I seriously think left Croatia forever. In Serbia is situation still worse,they are strongly anti-capitalist and communist what you can see from their sympathy with North Korea,Stalin and Yugonostalgic I have information of that because I know Croats who came in Belgrade and who are in business deal with them. Last edited by Fico; February 27th, 2020 at 10:09 AM. |
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Croatia was in a weaker position at the beginning of the war because the yugoslav army and governmetn was majority serbs, the capital was in belgrade. So you had an army and croats did not. However Croats had a strong economy so they were able to quickly buy weapons, build weapons and take weapons by force from yugoslav army depots that were located in croat majority areas. Croats fought the yugoslav army to a standstill here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Y...ign_in_Croatia Despite the fact they had less weapons at the time. They were arming and improving the military and serbia retreated because they realized if the croats beat them in croatia they would then be too week to stop croats invading into vojvodina and even belgrade maybe. After that it was local croat serbs fighting to hold onto serb majority areas of croatia. THese serbs had weapons (even tanks, heavy weapons ect) and money help from belgrade. The US was not trying to "get serbia" as serbs have deluded themselves into thinking. They were trying to play a balancing act to get both sides to negotiate for peace and stop the war. They realized serbia would not negotiate for peace without suffering a major defeat. SO they let the croats know if they beat the Serbs of croatia and ran them out of their country the US would not turn against them as punishment for "ethnic cleansing". Croats beat you both in war and in the negotiations/politics and public preceptions. They committed less crimes overall than the serbs and were allowed to get away with operation storm, because that was the only way to force serbia towards peace in all the wars. Even in bosnia the americans did not beat you, the bosnians beat you with some croat help. The serbs often cite us bombing of bosnian serbs as proof of "america beat us". The reality is that us bombing was verry minimal, a slap in the wrist to serbs as punnishment for large scale war crimes against croatian and bosnian civilians. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operat...liberate_Force Only^ 30 serb soldiers and another 30 civilans died in the nato bombings of bosnian serbs. Out of 20,000 dead serb soldiers and 30,000 dead bosnian soldiers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_War THe direct military involvement of america and foreign poweres was 0 in croatia and extremely minimal (almost 0) in bosnia. Foreign powers did have an influence on the economic and weapon supply side of the war, however. But here there were factors that eaqually helped and hurt the serbs, and factors that equally helped and hurt the serbs enemies. First factor was economic sanctions on serbia. These actually hurt the serbs war efforts because military power is powered by $$ to buy weapons and other needed war material. However the serbs already had almost all the yugo weapons and they smuggled oil and other supplies from other countries despite the economic sanctions. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archi...-9ad758b9cf47/ The second factor that foreign powers had on the outcome of the war was the weapons embargo on all of the countries fighting, not only serbia. This factor actually helped serbia and hurt the war efforts of Croatia and Bosnia. That is because Serbia already had yugoslav army arsenal, serbias enemies had almost no weapons and they were the ones that need to buy them from outside. However they were able to get around this by smuggling weapons through the black market. However, it is verry difficult to smuggle large weapons like tanks and artillery though the black market. So this helped serbia because their enemies would have had more weapons if it was not for the weapons embargos, especially croatia which was rich by balkan standards and could afford more weapons. After the serbs were defeated their leaders tried to shift the blame from themselves for being incompetent to "the americans beat us not croatia and bosnia". And the serbs wanting to stroke thier own ego and delude themselves believed them. THe truth is the serb leaders overestimated their own strength, and bet on getting everything as a "greater serbia". And end up with nothing. Not even republica srbska which they could have gotten from a relatively weak Bosnia, if they were not dumb and bit off more than they could chew. If they were smart they would have realized they were not able to take everything like they wanted and would have seperated serb areas of bosnia by force (they were too weak to do shit to croatia which has more population than bosnia, stronger economy and way less serbs than bosnia). Instead they tried to get all of bosnia and like 1/3 of croatia by force, got their asses handed to them eventually by both Croatia and bosnia (once these countries armed and were able to fight back). And now blame their loss on nato/usa (even though they did next to nothing in these wars), instead of thier own stupidity. Go try some more dumb shit with croatia, they will take vojvodina too. Where you are actually right to blame your losses on nato is in kosovo war (4 years after wars with croatia and bosnia were over). That is were nato actually attacked you and had an effect on the outcome of the war. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_b..._of_Yugoslavia But at that time Kosovo was not not a yugoslav republic like Croatia and Bosnia were.They did not have a state to organize a real army, only had irregular fighters with no real organization or heavy weapons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo_Liberation_Army It would be funny if you tried to attack them today that they have a state, as your leaders rhetoric often suggests. Like maybe after america retreats from the area. Youd probably beat their ass at first and they would be suffer more, because they dont seemed to have probably armed themselves. But now they have a state to organized them. Once they get armed, it will turn into another croatia or bosnia for you and you would end up with croats in Belgrade and albanian kosovars in Nis. Just Like hitler wanted https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ia_1941-43.png |
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As they say: in war truth is the first casualty:
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/719...first-casualty All sides disroted the truth and lie to some degree. Luckily in the modern world there are many educated people that can read and write the facts down, as well as people from different nations doing this so you dont see only one side and their emotional distortions of the truth. But if you are intelligent, educated, actually understand how wars work and humans work. You can look at all the evidence from all sides of the war as well as from powerful third countries, think dispassionately and without emotional attachment to any one side, and stitch the truth together if you care enough about these wars. IF you do so you you will see what I said above. |
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By the logic of "croatia was helped by the west" because they had communication with washington and bought weapons from the black market in germany (almost all of them light weapons, you cant get many tanks on black market). You can say serbia was helped by russia when they sold them weapons in the decades preceding the yugo wars (weapons which were used by serbia in the wars). Yes they sold them to what was at the time yougoslavia, but the fact is the yugoslav government and military was dominated by serbs.
THe fact is Serbia was thoroughly beaten by its neighbours in croatia and bosnia, if you look carefully at the evidence and understand how war (and related things like economy) works. The wider world and great powers did as much to harm serbia (economic sanctions) as to help serbia (weapons sanctions on all countries when serbs enemies had verry few weapons and serbs were verry well armed in comparison). |
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