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Old January 25th, 2005 #1
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The purpose of this thread is to encourage people to discuss legal fundraising mechanisms and structures for the WFP.

There are three areas of legal compliance issues for political outfits as I understand them.

1) IRS/ federal income tax/ exempt entity issues
2) FEC guidelines (Federal election committee) and fundraising laws such as McCain Feingold.
3) state law issues, similar to 1 & 2.

Anybody can do competent research on these issues to get the ball rolling. However at some point it would be a good idea for Rounder or Alex to retain some Missouri counsel to approve final organizational plans. But the purpose of this thread is to get the ball rolling and try to flush out some good informational resources so that this effort does not lead to a persecution situation a la Duke.
 
Old January 25th, 2005 #2
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look for example at this abundance of tax materials from the IRS concerning 527 orgs:

http://www.irs.gov/charities/politic...=96432,00.html

Unless excepted, political organizations described in section 527 of the Internal Revenue Code are required to file some or all of four forms:

An initial notice of status on Form 8871, Political Organization Notice of Section 527 Status;
Periodic reports of contributions and expenditures on Form 8872 , Report of Contributions and Expenditures;
Annual income tax returns on Form 1120-POL , U.S. Income Tax Return for Certain Political Organizations; and
Annual information returns on Form 990 , Return of Organization Exempt from Income Tax, or Form 990-EZ , Short Form Return of Organization Exempt from Income Tax.
The purpose of this page is to set forth (in question and answer format) issues arising from the filing of the annual returns by political organizations. The following questions do not address the filing of these returns by other exempt organizations.

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What is a Form 1120-POL?

A Form 1120-POL is the annual income tax return for political organizations.

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Who has to file a Form 1120-POL?

A political organization with taxable income after taking the $100 specific deduction for the taxable year must file Form 1120-POL.

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When is the Form 1120-POL due?

The Form 1120-POL is due on the 15th day of the 3rd month following the end of the political organization's taxable year. For organizations on a calendar year, the Form 1120-POL is due on March 15th of the following year.

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May a political organization request an extension of time for filing Form 1120-POL?

Yes, the organization may request an automatic six-month extension by filing Form 7004 , Application for Automatic Extension of Time to File Corporate Income Tax Return, by the due date of the Form 1120-POL.
 
Old January 25th, 2005 #3
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here is a start for FEC stuff.

http://www.fec.gov/info/compliance.shtml
 
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http://www.fec.gov/law/law.shtml
 
Old January 26th, 2005 #5
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I gather that in order to form an actual political party, a party must be registered at the State level. Other than fundraising committees, there is no "National" Republican or Democrat party, but rather, 50 different State parties. I'm going to try and find the relevant laws relating to this party-forming process in as many States as possible. A simple google-search came up with this straightforward explanation for the State of Iowa:

http://www.sos.state.ia.us/pdfs/elec...ticalParty.pdf


I also found this very interesting and enlightening article from some Fedgov website, regarding political parties. I think it's must reading:

http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pub...04/parties.htm


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I gather that in order to form an actual political party, a party must be registered at the State level. Other than fundraising committees, there is no "National" Republican or Democrat party, but rather, 50 different State parties. I'm going to try and find the relevant laws relating to this party-forming process in as many States as possible. A simple google-search came up with this straightforward explanation for the State of Iowa:

http://www.sos.state.ia.us/pdfs/elec...ticalParty.pdf


I also found this very interesting and enlightening article from some Fedgov website, regarding political parties. I think it's must reading:

http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pub...04/parties.htm


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John, your "must read" was a bit lengthy, but very insightful/educational.

Coupla noteworthy quotes that caught my eye:

"Since 1990, Americans have shown a high level of popular support for the concept of a Third Party.

"In 2000, a gallup poll found that 67 percent favored a 3rd party that would run for president, Congress, and state offices."

I was also pointed out that many more would vote for 3rd party candidates if they weren't convinced they'd be "wasting their votes". But it seems to me that with the Republicans and Democrats both supporting globalization, amnesty for illegal aliens, and so many other outrages against the American people, more and more of them will cease to use the excuse of "wasting their votes".

Thanks John, for provided us with that highly pertinent article.
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what I am wondering John is,what should be the exact protocol for a small party venture such as this starting out?

Is it register one entity as a state party and do everything through it; or is it have one entity which is a state party and then another thing which is a PAC; or is a party and a pac essentially the same thing? and, if there is a membership group, lets say, something set up like the NA as a for profit corporation with a nonvoting membership, what kinds of transactions between that entity and the party and or pac are prohibited? You see the questions I am getting at?

These things need to be considered because somebody will certainly be sending in their $5 as a proxy for the bad guys, and if that $5 is mishandled or that $5 violates some tax or election law, the bad guys will make their moves and I dont want to see my friends like Alex taking a fall or this thing go kaput. If we were a bunch of greens or reform party goofs, nobody would care, but you know all eyes will be on this venture.

I dont know anything more than the next guy where election law is concerned and wish we had a DIY guide as I have seen for many other legal topics.
 
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what I am wondering John is,what should be the exact protocol for a small party venture such as this starting out?

Is it register one entity as a state party and do everything through it; or is it have one entity which is a state party and then another thing which is a PAC; or is a party and a pac essentially the same thing? and, if there is a membership group, lets say, something set up like the NA as a for profit corporation with a nonvoting membership, what kinds of transactions between that entity and the party and or pac are prohibited? You see the questions I am getting at?

These things need to be considered because somebody will certainly be sending in their $5 as a proxy for the bad guys, and if that $5 is mishandled or that $5 violates some tax or election law, the bad guys will make their moves and I dont want to see my friends like Alex taking a fall or this thing go kaput. If we were a bunch of greens or reform party goofs, nobody would care, but you know all eyes will be on this venture.

I dont know anything more than the next guy where election law is concerned and wish we had a DIY guide as I have seen for many other legal topics.
Alex, should talk to the Missouri State Board of Elections, which comes under Robin Carnahan who I believe is the Secretary of State for Missouri. He should also talk to, and get information from his county board of elections.

Personally, I don't like this idea of Alex running as an independent in the general election, particularly when he might have a serious shoot at winning the Democrat nomination for Congress.

Finances and ballot access are two seperate issues.

Don't forget the jewdough democrats will go nuts if a real White Jeffersonian Democrat were to enter the primary!
 
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An additional question that needs to be answered is whether or not the state of Missouri requires officers of a party registered in Missouri to be residents of that state.

I would suggest Glenn or someone else call a trusted or recommended Missouri attorney specialising in taxes and explain what he has in mind, then ask the attorney if he is sufficiently familiar with the procedures involved to assist in registering a new political party. Make an appointment for a one hour consultation. During the consultation Glenn or whoever makes the appointment could ask the necessary tax questions, or better yet ask what it would cost to have the attorney handle the entire package. The whole procedure could be streamlined and the hemming and hawing and delays avoided by paying whatever fees are involved and leaving it in the hands of a professional. The total costs would be negligible if shared amongst a few forum members and having one pro handle the whole procedure would eliminate the possibility of the idea petering out due to excessive "committee-izing." I would be willing to contribute to the legal fees in addition to the State of Missouri registration and other costs.
 
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An additional question that needs to be answered is whether or not the state of Missouri requires officers of a party registered in Missouri to be residents of that state.

I would suggest Glenn or someone else call a trusted or recommended Missouri attorney specialising in taxes and explain what he has in mind, then ask the attorney if he is sufficiently familiar with the procedures involved to assist in registering a new political party. Make an appointment for a one hour consultation. During the consultation Glenn or whoever makes the appointment could ask the necessary tax questions, or better yet ask what it would cost to have the attorney handle the entire package. The whole procedure could be streamlined and the hemming and hawing and delays avoided by paying whatever fees are involved and leaving it in the hands of a professional. The total costs would be negligible if shared amongst a few forum members and having one pro handle the whole procedure would eliminate the possibility of the idea petering out due to excessive "committee-izing." I would be willing to contribute to the legal fees in addition to the State of Missouri registration and other costs.
Like I said, ZOG won't officially recognize the WFP until they've certified the required number of registered signatures. In Missouri, the requirement is 10,000. Meanwhile, ZOG will recognize the WFP as a Political Action Committee (PAC), as soon as I've completed the necessary forms which are being mailed to me.

NOTE: The White Patriot Party (1980-1987) was never registered nor was it a PAC. I simply proclaimed it's existence. And while members of the WPP, myself and others ran for office as republicans or democrats. We simply filed, paid the filing fee, and filled out a few forms, then filed campaign finance reports every 3 months or so during the campaign. And it was very simple and took very little time. Nothing complicated about any of it, at all.

And this is the way I recommend we of the WFP operate until we have grown significantly in number and financial resources.

I'll run for the U.S. Congress in 06, just like I ran for governor in 84, and for the U.S. Senate in 86. And I won't accept one dime from anyone. The filing fee is only $250, and I'll pay my own travel expenses relative to media interviews and invites to speak before special interest groups, etc.

Frankly, I don't believe any of our candidates should waste alot of money on campaigning. Just simply use the campaigns to EXPOSE THE JEWS and wake up White folks. VNN monies should be spent on increasing our media capabilities - our newspaper, websites, video productions, audio, etc.

Anyhow, these are my opinions. Alex will make all final decisions regarding the WFP, and our candidates will use their own judgments as to how best to run their campaigns.
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Like I said, ZOG won't officially recognize the WFP until they've certified the required number of registered signatures. In Missouri, the requirement is 10,000. Meanwhile, ZOG will recognize the WFP as a Political Action Committee (PAC), as soon as I've completed the necessary forms which are being mailed to me.

NOTE: The White Patriot Party (1980-1987) was never registered nor was it a PAC. I simply proclaimed it's existence. And while members of the WPP, myself and others ran for office as republicans or democrats. We simply filed, paid the filing fee, and filled out a few forms, then filed campaign finance reports every 3 months or so during the campaign. And it was very simple and took very little time. Nothing complicated about any of it, at all.

And this is the way I recommend we of the WFP operate until we have grown significantly in number and financial resources.

I'll run for the U.S. Congress in 06, just like I ran for governor in 84, and for the U.S. Senate in 86. And I won't accept one dime from anyone. The filing fee is only $250, and I'll pay my own travel expenses relative to media interviews and invites to speak before special interest groups, etc.

Frankly, I don't believe any of our candidates should waste alot of money on campaigning. Just simply use the campaigns to EXPOSE THE JEWS and wake up White folks. VNN monies should be spent on increasing our media capabilities - our newspaper, websites, video productions, audio, etc.

Anyhow, these are my opinions. Alex will make all final decisions regarding the WFP, and our candidates will use their own judgments as to how best to run their campaigns.
Glenn, I agree to start at least we should operate like the old WPP and then cement our existence with time. It's very important to organize legitimately but there is alot of ground work to be done in the mean time. As well just an opinion.
 
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