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Old August 16th, 2014 #1
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Lightbulb THE thread about Islam!

Background

Well, Islam is probably the strongest ideological and civilizational force humankind has ever seen. Islam is not like any other religion. Islam is a VERY , VERY strong and complete ideological framework that has religious , political , social , economic , spiritual , military ,and legalistic aspects to it. History of mankind has never seen such a solid and consistent civilizational force. Almost all the time, whereever Islam went , it ingrained itself in the soil of that land (the only exception is Spain where Muslims ruled 800 years but then driven back. Balkans were just under Turkish rule but never had any significant Muslim presence or cultural influence). Graham E. Fuller in his book , "A world without Islam" , writes that Islam has got great vitality and it is culturally, economically and socially very strong. People used to "mentally-m*sterbate" that Islam thrives in poorer countries etc but in the last century , this myth has been practically debunked now. Countries like Turkey , Malaysia , Indonesia , Saudi Arabia , Qatar , Kuwait etc etc are very rich and prosperous (and Western in case of Turkey) but yet , Islam not only survive but it THRIVES in these lands. Unlike Christianity , which is a dead religion now in the West, Islam is a very influential religion. Wherever it exists , its followers practice it. Even the Muslim communities in the Western world take Islam seriously and practice and live by their faith.

Islam "self-grow" itself by Islamic finance. Islamic banking is now over a trillion dollar industry and growing. Islamic halal industry is worth $2.5 trillion and growing. Islam practically holds a HUGE chunk of geographic area (~ 30,000,000 sq. kilometers) and has significant presence in Western China , India , Russia , Europe etc .Islam is literally present in EVERY SINGLE NATION ON EARTH!.








Now Islam is moving to the "New World" for the first time. Islam also has one of the largest, most comprehensive law-code in the history of mankind. ~ 1.8-2.2 billion people all around the world get influenced by Islamic Shari'ah (directly or indirectly) in one way or the other.

Nature of Islam

Islam presents itself as a "total" ideology covering all aspects of life, it gives it's followers a sense of a shared culture and brotherhood, and a sense of emptiness to those who begin to doubt it.Islam legislates almost EVERYTHING of a human being. It controls them completely. From food to sex ...from marriage to divorce..from personal cleanness to manners of using toilet etc. Islam plays role in everything and this make its followers to start recognizing with Islam. Islam just ingrains itself in the mind of follower and even if a follower leave Islam , he/she won't come out of it for ever! (I know many such people who still wear Hijabs , don't eat pork or drink etc just because they WERE Muslims. Now it has become a part of them).


Islamic Civilizational force regards itself as the most superior..and hence, by this token, it urges its followers to spread this civilizational existence to every one out there who is still a "barbarian" (Kafir) either by incentives, invitation, or even by force. Romans were the same. Remember? The difference? Romans were a people..physical thing..and were destroyed and become history. Islam on the other hand is not. It is a civilizational force in itself. You can not stop it, nor you can counter. It has NO comprehensive counter force remaining on Planet Earth.

Therefore, Islam has a VERY strong culture. Muslim girls would not date a "non-Muslim" guy and their first preference will always be to look for a "Muslim" boy (experience from high school/college). Even if Muslim girls have sex , kissing , dating etc with "non-Muslim" guys , they will very rarely marry them. They always marry within their community and produce their offsprings under the strong Islamic umbrella.

Islam will gain 2.2 billion followers in less than 1450 years, a feat unmatched by any other religion in human history (and in all likeness, will remain unmatched for ever)- Christianity did the same in 2001 years...

Islam is a civilizational force having socio-economic, cultural, religious, legal, social, spiritual, and military components to it..Probably the most strongest ideological force to have ever existed...This also makes it way more successful, considering its global spread (It exists in literally every single nation on Earth)....

Remember, spreading just a religion (by changing it and adapting to local culture, like Christianity) is easy...Spread of an comprehensive civilizational force such as Islam is hard...very hard..but Islam did it-successfully. Islam is only such ideological, civilizational force in human history that is "global" and spread to every single corner to Earth...


Girls in Hijabs are a common sight in Western Universities now a days. It is visual evidence of presence of Islam...you can "feel" it...Can't say that for christianity though...

Moreover, Islamic Civilization isn't like backwater, broken ass Africans who never had any role in history.

Islamic Civilization has a history of creating global empires, remaining superpower of the world for centuries, colonizing other peoples, and inventing technologies and contributing to maths, sciences etc.

As one of our greatest historian, Bernard Lewis, says....There is only ONE civilization that rivals Western civilization..and that is Islamic Civilization!

Bar these two civilizations, NO civilization in human history has been "global" ...only regional one's...


All these facts make Islam , I think , the strongest ideological, civilizational force on the planet. It just doesn't fcuking go down. French ripped their a$$es off to convert Algerians but after hundred years of colonialism , 99.3% of Algerians were still Muslims. . All this show that , as Karen Armstrong put it , Islam just went stronger , stronger , stronger and stronger from the day Muhammad started it. From last 200 to 250 years, Islamic Civilization is going through its "demise" cycle..as all civilizations go through peak and demise..but even it "demise", it is SPREADING globally and has enough economic production to not only "sustain" it, but facilitate its expansion.


Current trends (just continuation of background)

Also , about 60% -70% of Muslims worldwide are people who are "young" and hence they'll be getting into their "productive age" and will be reproducing in coming years. Which means ...surprise...Islam will grow even larger! Above that , Islam is a self-perpetuating ideology that starts growing when it goes to a new place. Islam conquered many nations , and instead of despising it , those nations started spreading Islam even further!!!!

Today, Islam is only expanding ...politically , culturally , economically , religiously , legally, militarily etc etc and it looks unstoppable ...just like it has been over the centuries!!!!

Most important part of entire post

The biggest strength of Islam, in my opinion, is its girls. Muslim Girls! There are approximately 800 million to 850 million Muslim girls all over the world. This is the game changer, the core of Islamic Civilization and its global spread. Muslim girls are generally way more practicing than Muslim guys..Even in my university, Muslim girls will be way ahead of Muslim guys in setting up Islamic events, spreading Islamic information and knowledge on campus, and so on. They wear Hijab and uphold their Islamic identity above everything else. And these Muslim girls are also future mothers of Muslims..so when a new baby in born, it stays under the watch of mothers most of the time. And since Muslim girls are 'Islamic', they pass down Islam to their new generation..and this cycle goes on. That is why, with time, Christianity died in West and became irrelevant..That didn't happen to Islam. Islam exerts significant influence wherever it exists..


Muslim girls generally live by strong morals and conviction, unlike, sadly, our Western girls who have been made piece of trash by media and porn industry..and our birth rates have fallen!

Solution:

In my opinion, this biggest civilizational threat to us in our entire history is very hard to contain. I think that we, the non-Muslim guys, must focus on Muslim girls for education, and awareness. We can use friendship, or even romantic relationships for this purpose. I know, its hard. They aren't promiscuous (another great strength of Islam) but we can try.

If we can start a trend of speaking to Muslim girls, or going out with them, and helping them to break away from Islam..then I see some hope. We might be able to slow down the march of Islam atleast in the parts of Western World and where non-Muslims are still majority.

Millions of Muslim girls have a lot of aryan blood in them too. Moreover, they take care of their men! Their men are like gods to them. I have seen some amateur hidden camera videos of Muslim girls having sex with their men. Oh boy, were they taking care of their partners! You could see their devotion to their men.

While our women.....







Admittedly, it is very hard to get Muslim girls. They are not easy as our girls are. They don't drink, fuck around, have sex, or even kiss opposite gender before marriage. Offcourse that's the general rule..and not all of them are like that. But tells you about their superior cultural traits and utter strength of Islamic civilizational/ideological force that shapes the behavior of Muslims girls to be such beneficial for Islam (remember, in majority of Muslim World--birth rates are very healthy. In Iran, they only dropped AFTER the Islamic government of Iran itself ordered/requested women to have less babies due to internal crises).

I have seen some threads here where the poster was talking about his exploits with Muslim women. He talked about how he used to trick Muslim girls into thinking that he was a convert and was looking a Muslim girl for marriage. And then he'd have sex with Muslim girls..specially anal sex. Muslim girls are very rarely sexually active before marriage, and even when they are, they prefer anal sex because they want to be virgin on wedding night for their husbands.

What do you guys think? What can we do to damage Islam?

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Old August 16th, 2014 #2
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What do you guys think? What can we do to damage Islam?
Someone thinks: we must support moderate forces in Islamic World. We must heavily support science and technology in the Muslim world. Education, economic build-up , and political stability are other factors too. We must also dispel this perception that we interfere in Islamic Countries and we oppress the Muslims. We must promote democracy in the Muslim world, even if it brings Muslim Brotherhood in the power (Which aren't radical terrorists as some fox news pundits might want us to believe). Over-all, United States is here to stay..Islamic World is here to stay...We must learn to live together with mutual respect and co-operation.

At least, that's the ending of the original post on the military forum that you stole this from.


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What can we do to damage Islam?
Why would we want to?

I have a personal objection to halal (and kosher) slaughter so would love to see those stopped or at least labelled as such in our countries but other than that, so what?


Islamic finance? It's not hurting me or you. Good for them for finding a way of cutting out the middleman.


Hijabs? So what? If they want to be different, why force them to dress like Western girls? Let them show the world that they want to be different and have no wish to integrate. I have a problem with hijabs in such as airports and the like, but other than that, not my business.

Going out with muslim girls? Your choice, I suppose.
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Admittedly, it is very hard to get Muslim girls. They are not easy as our girls are. They don't drink, fuck around, have sex, or even kiss opposite gender before marriage. Offcourse that's the general rule..and not all of them are like that. But tells you about their superior cultural traits and utter strength of Islamic civilizational/ideological force that shapes the behavior of Muslims girls to be such beneficial for Islam
Yeah. We used to be like that once upon a time before it was all destroyed. Perhaps we would be better served attempting a return to those values instead of trying to corrupt others from their values. It's not necessarily islam that makes them like that but also a rejection of the worst/most destructive parts of Western culture.

I watched a programme some time ago. It was about "islamic extremism". They showed muslim kids not being allowed out to hang around on street corners with their mates and not being allowed to listen to music till homework was done. I didn't think that extremist. I thought it good parenting.


Anyway, my own opinion is that the vast majority of muslims (this obviously excludes converts) would be better served in their country of origin. Whilst that isn't the case, then we should try to minimise anything that dilutes, replaces or overshadows our culture and traditions.
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Old August 16th, 2014 #3
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Why am I getting thumbs down for this post?

Read the full post and tell me whats wrong in it? The post is factual, analytical, and accurate.
 
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Why am I getting thumbs down for this post?

Read the full post and tell me whats wrong in it? The post is factual, analytical, and accurate.
I never thumbed you up or down.
But as for the accuracy of it.It could be.
Why not have a photo of a beautiful white girl and make it look like she is some sort of muslim in a muslim head dress.
The reflection in her eyes of the window and the photographer are even identical.


Another good idea is to cover the facts of what the worshippers of a paedophile do to their beautiful women.

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Old August 16th, 2014 #5
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Why am I getting thumbs down for this post?

Read the full post and tell me whats wrong in it? The post is factual, analytical, and accurate.
....and your conclusion is arse about face.
Here's your solution:

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In my opinion, this biggest civilizational threat to us in our entire history is very hard to contain. I think that we, the non-Muslim guys, must focus on Muslim girls for education, and awareness. We can use friendship, or even romantic relationships for this purpose. I know, its hard. They aren't promiscuous (another great strength of Islam) but we can try.

If we can start a trend of speaking to Muslim girls, or going out with them, and helping them to break away from Islam..then I see some hope. We might be able to slow down the march of Islam atleast in the parts of Western World and where non-Muslims are still majority.

Millions of Muslim girls have a lot of aryan blood in them too. Moreover, they take care of their men! Their men are like gods to them. I have seen some amateur hidden camera videos of Muslim girls having sex with their men. Oh boy, were they taking care of their partners! You could see their devotion to their men.
Let's take it line by line.

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In my opinion, this biggest civilizational threat to us in our entire history is very hard to contain.
It's relatively simple.
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I think that we, the non-Muslim guys, must focus on Muslim girls for education, and awareness.
No. You should be focussing on NON-muslim girls.

I would say white girls, but eh - converts an' all.
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We can use friendship, or even romantic relationships for this purpose. I know, its hard.
The purpose is pointless so we can disregard this.

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They aren't promiscuous (another great strength of Islam) but we can try.
No - they keep to their own kind. Why try and destroy that? You should be emulating these qualities, not trying to destroy them.
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If we can start a trend of speaking to Muslim girls, or going out with them, and helping them to break away from Islam..then I see some hope.
We don't want them to break away from islam. In any case, they are going to marry muslims. It's their culture and no matter how much you try and fool them into thinking you have an emotional attachment to them, izzat or family honour comes first. It's their mindset and their culture, not their religion.

Learn to separate religion from morality. We too can have these values only we don't need a book to tell us how to do it.


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We might be able to slow down the march of Islam atleast in the parts of Western World and where non-Muslims are still majority.
Perhaps we could think of another way of doing that instead of pretending to be in love with them?

Maybe if muslim-majority countries weren't so dangerous for them to live in, there might be fewer of them racing here to claim asylum.


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Millions of Muslim girls have a lot of aryan blood in them too. Moreover, they take care of their men! Their men are like gods to them. I have seen some amateur hidden camera videos of Muslim girls having sex with their men. Oh boy, were they taking care of their partners! You could see their devotion to their men.
So you see a quality in these girls that you covet and you want to destroy it. [sarcasm]That makes sense.[/sarcasm]

If you want a girl to treat you like a god, be her god.
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Islam will gain 2.2 billion followers in less than 1450 years, a feat unmatched by any other religion in human history (and in all likeness, will remain unmatched for ever)- Christianity did the same in 2001 years...
They went about it in a different way than christians. Christians for the most part converted pagans by sending out missionaries to preach.

Muslims sent out swordmen to sac villages, murder all the men and the old. Take male children away to be castrated and enslaved. Take all the women and girls away as slaves to be raped and bear the children of their captors until they died (the muslims call this marriage). This is also why muslim men are allowed to marry multiple women.
 
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I have a great idea.
Lets make it the law that a woman is half as equal as a man.
Lets have a law that says a woman that is gang raped has to go to prison for 2 years and receive 50 lashes in public.
Lets have a law that says a woman accused of adultery should be sent to prison for 2 years and then stoned to death in public.
Lets have a law that says men can rape 9 year old children.
I could go on but it gets boring.
It could never happen in Britain any way so dont wory about it mate.It could never happen in Europe at all.
Lets not mention Serbia OK.


Take the followers of the paedophile mohamhead back to their desert and let them get on with it.
 
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Why am I getting thumbs down for this post?
You're full of bullshit, especially the stuff about converting muslim girls away from their religion. What kind of drugs do you have to use to dream that up as a solution?

The worst of your bullshit is the idea that Islam as such is a problem for us in the west. It's a problem that non-Europeans are migrating in ever greater number to Europe, but their religion has little to do with it. If your people are being displaced by black and brown people from the third world, it makes little difference whether they are Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, or anything else. Displacement of your people is the problem, not the religion of the invaders. Even if you convert them all to Christianity or Atheism, your people are still displaced. The ethnicity of the invaders is the problem - the growth of Islam in Europe is merely a symptom of the invasion.

Most people who focus on Islam as a problem are following a jewish neocon agenda, of demonising Islam as a way of getting the west to fight wars for Israel. Demonising Islam is also a good way of getting support for Israel in their genocide of Palestinians.

I also note you made no mention of the reason for the invasion of Europe - the jews (some religious and some atheistic) who changed our laws, control our politicians, control our media, and control what you're allowed to say.

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They went about it in a different way than christians. Christians for the most part converted pagans by sending out missionaries to preach.
Not sure how you figure that out.

The Teutonic Order wouldn't have needed a papal license to declare constant war if they could have just sat down and had a chat over tea and biscuits about conversion.


Convert to christianity or die was the lesson preached.
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^A little prosperity and that 'morality' goes out the window.
 
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(andy is going to love this noob. )
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Not sure how you figure that out.

The Teutonic Order wouldn't have needed a papal license to declare constant war if they could have just sat down and had a chat over tea and biscuits about conversion.


Convert to christianity or die was the lesson preached.
1. The muslims didn't say convert or die, they simply killed and made muslim children with their prisoners.

2. Is that what Saint Boniface did when he converted the germans? Nope. When Saint Partick converted the irish? Nope. Or when William the Bastard showed up in France? Nope.
 
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1. The muslims didn't say convert or die, they simply killed and made muslim children with their prisoners.
And King Guthroth willingly gave up his christian-opposing tongue, did he?

And Hypatia of Alexandria died peacefully in her sleep?


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2. Is that what Saint Boniface did when he converted the germans? Nope. When Saint Partick converted the irish? Nope. Or when William the Bastard showed up in France? Nope.
*cough*Lithuania/Prussia*cough*

I suppose next you'll be telling me that the christian Emperor Theodosius looked benevolently on the small children he caught playing with the remains of "heathen" statues, allowing them to exchange their playthings for a Toys R Us gift card and it's just a wicked rumour that he murdered them under the law that stated any pagans or anyone indulging in pagan services would be executed?

Wanna talk about Charlemagne yet?
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Find an Arab, tell her to abandon her highly effective religion, and then spawn a half-Arab child with her and tell him not to practice Islam even though he's already a Semite.

That doesn't sound helpful at all. In fact, it sounds worse than just converting to Islam and marrying an Arab Muslim normally.


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I have a great idea.
Lets make it the law that a woman is half as equal as a man.
Lets have a law that says a woman that is gang raped has to go to prison for 2 years and receive 50 lashes in public.
Lets have a law that says a woman accused of adultery should be sent to prison for 2 years and then stoned to death in public.
Lets have a law that says men can rape 9 year old children.
I could go on but it gets boring.
Not causing a demographic collapse > not having rocks thrown at women.

But, as far as the White population is concerned, large-scale mongrelization is still a demographic collapse.
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Is that what Saint Boniface did when he converted the germans? Nope. When Saint Partick converted the irish? Nope. Or when William the Bastard showed up in France? Nope.
I cant comment on the others but the Druids that rejected St Patricks desert religion christianity were slaughtered.
Im sure the Irish thought it was great that some foreigner came over and started building temples on their places of worship.
 
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I cant comment on the others but the Druids that rejected St Patricks desert religion christianity were slaughtered.
Im sure the Irish thought it was great that some foreigner came over and started building temples on their places of worship.
The trouble is that history - or in this case, theology - is written by the winners. The christians aren't going to run round admitting that they confiscated and destroyed goods or that they tortured and murdered people, are they?

No doubt some did convert by choice, just as people convert to other religions today, but some does not = all. And really, choice in this instance is subjective. When life is made difficult for you as a *whatever* and you see something pop up that is virtually the same as your *whatever* yet carries none of the difficulties of retaining the original, it's not hard to see how some would go for it. It's no coincidence that the major christian events are virtually identical to those that went before. Familiarity eases the path.
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Another good idea is to cover the facts of what the worshippers of a paedophile do to their beautiful women.
Followers of a bastard (Jesus) son of a whore (Marry) do fucked up sh!t to their women too.

That's not the point.
 
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Try as a non-Muslim man, to pursue and have sex with an unmarried Muslim girl and if her devout Muslim father finds out, he will probably kill you, something White fathers fail to do when their daughters sleep with niggers and other non-Whites. White men need to stay with their own kind. Even most jews tend to marry other jews, even though they promote miscegenation for goys.
 
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Followers of a bastard (Jesus) son of a whore (Marry) do fucked up sh!t to their women too.
That's not the point.
Showing your total pig ignorance now arnt you ManalguZ.
You are justifying the religion of paedophiles by attacking jesus and mary.
Do you not realise jesus is recognised as a prophet and muslim in islam and mary is revered as his mother.
Go and make a cup of tea and a bacon sandwich while you flick through your koran.
Dont get any bacon grease on it though.You wouldnt want to get the pages stuck together.

The point is you posted a photo shop picture of a beautiful white girl and said she was a arab.Whats the point in that.
Also the desert religion that has paedophilia as one of its foundations also promotes the rape and murder of women.
What sort of a fucking religion is that.
No getting around the facts my old son.
 
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Followers of a bastard (Jesus) son of a whore (Marry) do fucked up sh!t to their women too.

That's not the point.
.....and I bet not one of them takes responsibility for their own actions. If you (the generic you, not you personally MalanguZ) want to act like a c**t, then at least have the bottle to stand by your actions - don't blame it on some mythical being or ancient comic book.
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