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Old March 23rd, 2019 #121
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I think that Catholics hate NS (and WN) because, in their world, God must come first. With NS (and WN), God doesn't come first -- if He comes at all.




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Old March 23rd, 2019 #122
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catholic arguments that must be refuted / countered

- we built europe. we are civilization (the give us 1000 years theme)
a. euros were running around chasing pigs until we showed them how to civilize
- our policy of Sicut Judaeis Non protected society from jews
- all men are created by god, all men need salvation, salvation is only possible through our One True Religion
a. all atomic, biological, racial distinctions between men are morally wrong (this is not precisely their argument but close)
- Hitler was a disaster. Hitler destroyed Germany. (blaming hitler for what his opponents do. this is more a xtian argument in general, favored by ted beale and other conservatives. they pick up and drop neocon arguments as fit their purpose)
a. they blame the one man who organized effective resistance to jews, while crediting their own policy with holding jews in check.
 
Old March 23rd, 2019 #123
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lines of attack on catholicism

- retreat into irrationality of god and all his operations in history
- jews talk to god too..and they are running things. jones has never been reproached in this line
- cathlicism in north africa 1000 years, where's the civilization?
- paraguay 1600-1700s? lol wut (as well cite american South for proof slaverycism is source of civilization
- willingness to go outside moral order, breaking command against lying, in use of jew-communist lies about national socialism
 
Old March 23rd, 2019 #124
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Been following this thread a bit and followed many of the links provided (TY to all contributors) and it's a bit of a meaty, complicated social & historical question.
The EMJ stuff is interesting and one can take many of the items he analyzes and get some good use from it.
Other stuff is just rantings of a true bu-liever catholic loon..imho

I am certain of EMJ's awareness of the rabbit hole that is the jews, yet to what degree?
I mean the man is well read one can see.

Not truly certain what you are seeking Alex ; many years back, I was imprinted angrily when reading about Charlemagne's back stabbing of the Saxons during a treaty meeting and beheading nearly 3000 Saxons who didn't wish to convert to Christianity.
Suppose it might have been Jung like remnants sympathizing with the non-bulievers.
Aryan honesty and naivety meeting double dealing catholics/jews.

As a competitor of ideas, the Catholic thing seems to just have a certain historical brand name recognition. It makes many of them feel safe, secure, somewhat smug in 'knowing' God is on their side. They are part of the winning team so to speak...so anything can be rationalized since their team must win. In addition, at a basic level, adherents of "the Chruch" (or any church/religion for that matter) desire a certain non personal responsibility - as long as they are a member in good standing, they feel they are on the right side of history and winners.
The structure of the Roman Catholic church is very corporate like. People are happy to just be loyal customers.

How can NS/WN doctrine compete? Very good question.
The good news is that masses of people will just go along and desire to be on a winning team. Deep philosophical understanding or even some visceral connection, is beyond the far majority of humans.
The elite leadership beginnings in NS circles I recall were mostly Bavarian, Austrian, and Rhinelander former Catholics.
From what I've read, the key change was replacing the church stuff with Pan-Aryanism, some sort of folkish racialist blood and soil connection.

I know you all are aware of this, yet just wanted to chime in and see where you wish this ides to move.

A key question would be what is EMJ's opinion of all the nonwhites being recruited into catholic circles?
 
Old March 23rd, 2019 #125
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A key question would be what is EMJ's opinion of all the nonwhites being recruited into catholic circles?
This is not intelligible.

Catholicism isnt racial. Most of its members arent whites. What circles are you talking about?
 
Old March 23rd, 2019 #126
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It ought to be obvious that you have serious stable people with LARGE FAMILIES in catholicism. It is a competitor for whiteskin minds.

But if it can't protect whites, for reasons i have many times indicated, then whites inside it are doomed, when they could be outside it helping the racial cause.

I will be recording on this soon.

Anyone out there who can put what i record on youtube?
 
Old April 9th, 2019 #127
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Well, the Reich had their main support in Bavaria, which is in the Catholic part of Germania.

Now they have been reduced to filling their pews in the Kwa with illegal aliens. Steve Bannon was right.
Of course, because the reich was good but the reich was good because it was pagan, it was not led by Christians.
 
Old June 6th, 2019 #128
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The KKK does not accept 1. Niggers 2. Kikes 3. Catholics and that’s good enough for me.

Cat licks are aiding and abetting the flood of mud races into white countries.

Cat licks have been molesting little kids for centuries, they are just now being found out.

It’s a religion of counterfeit Christianity, the phorafags may worship the pope as their god but he ain’t mine.
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Old January 12th, 2020 #129
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Here's a review about one on race relationships written by a nigger catholic:

http://www.raceandreligion.com/JRER/...e%20review.pdf
There you have it. If this nigger animal can inject its species-centric BS into Catholicism then certainly Whites can pursue racial interests. We'd be justified assuming temporal equality. I don't consider niggers even human, much less our equals.

Considering them my equal would be akin to considering the stray cats that come around my place as such, a transgression against my basic human dignity. That's basically what all leftist ideology boils down to, defiling the best and falsely elevating the low.
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Old March 16th, 2020 #130
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The simplest answer for why Catholics don't like racialism, is that it's competition.

Being Catholic is also a "way of life" outside of the jeboo nonsense, and universalism is at the core.

Encouraging Whites to have large families is good, however, they actively encourage Whites to breed with non-Whites, and for non-Whites to have large families, and they support the displacement of Whites in White countries. Their goal isn't anything other than encouraging Catholics to breed more Catholics, which serves to grow their organization and power structure.

Racialism is a threat to the above, especially when it's racialism for Whites. Because Whites are the ones who stuff their coffers more than any other group does, and the Catholic Church knows it. And this is why the Vatican views racialism as a serious threat to their existence. And why they vehemently oppose racialism for Whites. Because racialism provides Whites with a different "way of life" more beneficial to their racial survival strategy, which doesn't have any interest in shoring up, or bolstering the power structure of a universalist cult like the Catholic Church.
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Old March 31st, 2020 #131
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The simplest answer for why Catholics don't like racialism, is that it's competition.

Being Catholic is also a "way of life" outside of the jeboo nonsense, and universalism is at the core.

Encouraging Whites to have large families is good, however, they actively encourage Whites to breed with non-Whites, and for non-Whites to have large families, and they support the displacement of Whites in White countries. Their goal isn't anything other than encouraging Catholics to breed more Catholics, which serves to grow their organization and power structure.

Racialism is a threat to the above, especially when it's racialism for Whites. Because Whites are the ones who stuff their coffers more than any other group does, and the Catholic Church knows it. And this is why the Vatican views racialism as a serious threat to their existence. And why they vehemently oppose racialism for Whites. Because racialism provides Whites with a different "way of life" more beneficial to their racial survival strategy, which doesn't have any interest in shoring up, or bolstering the power structure of a universalist cult like the Catholic Church.
I had left the church long ago mainly because jeboo and god don't exist and if jeboo/god does exist he is a piece of shit who sees suffering and doesn't lift a finger because 'his plan' is obviously to watch people suffer in a million different ways. If you were able to save people from any situation and you stood by and did nothing but watch people suffer when you knew you could help, you are a fucking sadistic psychopath. Not a thing I wish to support.

Then about 15 years ago I said I might give the church another try just for the social aspect. The day I go to a local catholic church to check it out, there is a nigger and a white whore being 'married' there. So I noped out.

The Catholic church is a failure like any belief system which will not accept reality. All of it has to go, and even if they are selling jeboo snake oil and dream world fantasies at least they would be realistic about race and sexuality. They offer nothing at this point but a place for the frightened to assuage their fears by being a bottom to the world.
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Old June 25th, 2020 #132
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I'm hearing impaired and that's a fact. I use closed captions on talmudvision. Today the nigger Orange county, Florida, "mayuah" Jerry Demmings said he was going to issue a county wide mandate that everyone wear a mask to delay the spread of COVID-19. Niggah say if that isn't followed then penalties like fines may have to be imposed. I was able to hear a reporter say, "In some communities in Florida police have issued citations for 500 dollars for those not wearing a mask."

The closed caption read, "In some communities in Florida police have issued citations for 500 dollars for people not going to mass."

Well, AA hires or priests must be doing closed captioning these days.
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Old August 5th, 2020 #133
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Mit Brennender Sorge (pacelli key figure, became pius xii in 39, mbs out in 37)

Konrad Count von Preysing, Bishop of Berlin, made a public condemnation of
Nazi racial theories and policies
In August 1943, the German Bishops publicly
denounced the Nazi policies hostile to Catholic education, and this denunciation
was read in public all over Germany.451
The Pope’s speech to the College of
Cardinals on June 2, 1945, was a long and blistering attack on the defeated Nazis
Pope Pius’ which came closest to sounding
like a condemnation of exterminations, his Christmas Eve message of 1942.


The Hoax of the 20th Century, by Arthur Butz (2003 ed., originally 1976/1977)

Appendix E

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...Appendix-E.mp3 (1:45m)

all about the Vatican and the holocaust Big Lie - nothing in church files sustains any kind of extermination claims; there's damned little touching on the matter at all, so little jews like widely assigned (((Laqueur))) have whined about it.
 
Old September 1st, 2020 #134
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I am coming from state who have long Roman Chatolic tradition what is main force of conservative nationalsits,if we come in past,members of my nation went in war 30 years war against German Protestants. If you are not Roman Chatolic,you are leftist or liberal,it is official oppinion in nation. They have their meetings with blaming national socialism,fascism and communism because they were against Vatican. You can not be White Nationalist and Roman Chatolic,I remember when I was Roman Chatolic however on suggestion of some WN's I read some authors who oppose Christianity and I rejected that religion because I see enough quality arguments who shows me how is Christianity opposed to the White race,same is with Christianity of all types. Also what I see as something new on me,I am not poor man as I was when I practice Roman Chatolicism,nowdays I have strong will for life without stupid christian principles as: thurn the other cheek,judge not,sell all you have and give to the poor,love your enemyes. I realize that is main root of my weakness Roman Chatolic lifestyle and that will nothing change if I become Protestant because it is same.

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Adolf Hitler was a devout Catholic and he did not agree with Himmler's esoteric beliefs.
Catholicism is way more anti-Zionist than evangelicalism.
 
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The KKK does not accept 1. Niggers 2. Kikes 3. Catholics and that’s good enough for me.

Cat licks are aiding and abetting the flood of mud races into white countries.

Cat licks have been molesting little kids for centuries, they are just now being found out.

It’s a religion of counterfeit Christianity, the phorafags may worship the pope as their god but he ain’t mine.
See #3, that is why Hitler would not have been a fan of the KKK.
"I am now a Catholic and always will be" - Adolf Hitler, 1941
 
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Adolf Hitler was a devout Catholic and he did not agree with Himmler's esoteric beliefs.
Catholicism is way more anti-Zionist than evangelicalism.
Chatolic Curch openly stay against T4 eugenic program in Hitler's Germany. Today Vatican is 100% Zionist,I red whole Catechism of Roman Chatolic Curch where stay that all abrahamic cults wait one messiah in Jesuralem what mean that they are same. Main conservative attack on Hitler is that he was socialist and anti-christian just like communists. For me Hitler is not so important figure as others here think that he was. States who were against him had been stroner than Germany and that is all. However,mistake is only that states who won ww2 allow to leftists that they forget for conservative ideas like eugenic,segregation and put their policy to mainstream just because some conservative ideas had connection with NS does not matter that they did not be socialist.

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Chatolic Curch openly stay against T4 eugenic program in Hitler's Germany. Today Vatican is 100% Zionist,I red whole Catechism of Roman Chatolic Curch where stay that all abrahamic cults wait one messiah in Jesuralem what mean that they are same. Main conservative attack on Hitler is that he was socialist and anti-christian just like communists. For me Hitler is not so important figure as others here think that he was. States who were against him had been stroner than Germany and that is all. However,mistake is only that states who won ww2 allow to leftists that they forget for conservative ideas like eugenic,segregation and put their policy to mainstream just because some conservative ideas had connection with NS does not matter that they did not be socialist.
Most Christians persecuted by the NS were Protestants
 
Old October 23rd, 2020 #139
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I think that Catholics hate NS (and WN) because, in their world, God must come first. With NS (and WN), God doesn't come first -- if He comes at all.




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Adolf Hitler was a devout Catholic and he did not agree with Himmler's esoteric beliefs.
Catholicism is way more anti-Zionist than evangelicalism.
My whole mother's side of the family is Catholic. I still remember them passing around the basket for poor jews in pissreal, and Catholics emptied their pockets into the basket. Anti-Zionist my ass!

You a Catholic? How's the Pope working out for you? With such a strong Anti-Zionist, pro-nationalist Pope, maybe we should all become Catholic!
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