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Old May 5th, 2011 #61
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Default The CIA is fanning the Hungarians vs. Gypsies conflict

On two different occasions US Embassy employees visited the unstable violent Gypsy community of a small Hungarian town: Gyongyospatak. The reason: survey was prepared of the local gypsies if they want to run to other countries and ask for refugee status because they are terrorized by Hungarian right wingers.

A Jew, Richard Field of Hungarian origin who lives in the US donated money to the local Red Cross and they organized a phony evacuation of the local Gypsies.

Interestingly the American news service AP informed about the “evacuation” before any news organization printed it in Hungary.


The article below is in Hungarian.

http://jovonk.info/2011/04/30/az-egy...emzeti_Hirhalo
Az Egyesült Államok áll a gyöngyöspatai provokáció mögött


Egy hétre volt szüksége az érintetteknek, hogy leessen a tantusz, és megértsék azt, amire mi már az eseményeket követően igyekeztünk ráirányítani a figyelmet. Ha lassan is, de működésbe lépett az állam immunrendszere, és vizsgálni kezdték a magyarországi állambiztonsági szervek, hogy milyen külföldi titkosszolgálatok és idegen hatalmak, vagy gazdasági körök állhatnak a Gyöngyöspatán történt nagypénteki provokáció mögött. Annak nyilvános elismerését természetesen nem várjuk, hogy ehhez a Jövőnk.info cikkei is hozzájárultak, de nem is tiltakoznánk ellene...
Mint a legújabb híradásokból kiderült, április közepén az amerikai nagykövetség munkatársai jártak a településen ismeretlen céllal. Farkas János, a helyi cigány kisebbségi önkormányzat elnöke ezt 'belügyüknek' nevezte. Ez természetesen nem így van, sőt, nem egyszerűen „cigány belügy”, hanem pontosítsuk, és mondjuk ki nyíltan: az Amerikai Egyesült Államok beleavatkozik Magyarország belügyeibe!
Az amerikai nagykövetség nem válaszolt arra a kérdésre, hogy jártak-e és milyen céllal munkatársai Gyöngyöspatán a húsvéti üdültetés előtt. Miért is válaszoltak volna, hiszen hogy jön ahhoz egy gyarmat, hogy kérdéseket tegyen föl a gazdának?! A helyiek elmondása szerint azonban az elmúlt napokban is jártak az amerikai nagykövetség munkatársai a településen. Felmérést készítettek, hogy melyik család akarja elhagyni a települést vagy menedékjogot kérni más országban.
Az egy héttel ezelőtti elemzésünket is alátámasztotta a tény, hogy az AP amerikai hírügynökség, a magyar sajtót megelőzve közölte a gyöngyöspatai cigányok tömeges 'evakuálásáról' szóló hírt. A cigányok csillebérci kirándulását Richard Field, az a Magyarországon élő amerikai (zsidó) üzletember szervezte, aki tavaly tavasszal az LMP kampányát szponzorálta. A táboroztatásban a Vöröskereszt is részt vett, amely tavaly Richard Fieldtől 90 millió forintot kapott. A gyöngyöspataiak elmondása szerint egyébként arról már napokkal korábban tudtak, hogy a cigánysoron élő nők és gyerekek Csillebércen töltik a húsvétot.
 
Old June 6th, 2011 #62
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Default UN’s Nigger: “Hungarians are racist” But how did he find it out???

Up to now gypsies and jews hated Hungarians openly and now the water buffalos jump into the game… I am completely horrified.

“Githu Muigai, the UN Special Rapporteur on contemporary forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance, said crucial challenges await the Central European country on these issues, despite recent initiatives or pledges at international fora and treaties.”


This nigger really wants to work for his paycheck:

“In a press statement issued after he wrapped up a five-day visit to Hungary, Mr. Muigai voiced particular concern about the worsening situation faced by the country’s Roma minority.
“They have been the most affected by Hungary’s difficult transition period from socialism to a market-based economy and they continue to face racism, racial discrimination and intolerance in the areas of employment, education, housing and health,” he said.”

““Immediate action is required to tackle anti-Semitism in Hungary,” he added, calling on the Government to be vigilant and to set up the necessary mechanisms to address the issue.”

Hungary facing crucial challenges on racism and intolerance, UN expert says
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.as...&Cr=racism&Cr1
 
Old October 20th, 2011 #63
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Üdvözlöm a magyar tagokat ezen a fórumon! Nem tudom mennyien vagyunk, de remélem, mint magyar nemzeti gondolkodású személy tisztelve leszek ezen a fórumon.

I salute all Hungarian users on this forum! I hope I will have a pleasant stay here on VNN, and will interact with other intelligent people.
 
Old November 13th, 2011 #64
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Üdvözlöm a magyar tagokat ezen a fórumon! Nem tudom mennyien vagyunk, de remélem, mint magyar nemzeti gondolkodású személy tisztelve leszek ezen a fórumon.

I salute all Hungarian users on this forum! I hope I will have a pleasant stay here on VNN, and will interact with other intelligent people.
Szia,

Lehet, hogy en vagyok az egyetlen de nem vagyok benne biztos.
Lattam itt ott egy masik meglehetosen neurotikus karaktert aki lehet, hogy Magyar... csak probalja titkolni.

Egy szerb testverunk vezetgette itt a Magyar reszleget de udvariasan megkertem, hogy menjen a .....ba. Ez a hulye meg valamifele sovinizmusrol kezdett kvartyogni... Itt tortent valahol ezen a thread-en,,,

sok sikert, ha valamit segithetek szolj ram.

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Old January 2nd, 2012 #65
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30,000 Hungarians face off the government again

It is like déjŕ vu in that small country; things might turn and go the same way as in 2006

“Petr Konya of the Hungarian Solidarity Movement, which helped organize the demonstrations, told the cheering crowd that 2012 would be a year of hope.

“We want the rule of law back and we want the republic back,” Mr. Konya said to loud cheers. “Viktor Orban forgot that the power belongs to the people, it belongs to us, and we will get it back from them.””

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/03/wo...n-hungary.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45849987.../#.TwI2aHpS0ts

 
Old January 3rd, 2012 #66
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Tens of thousands protested against Hungary's new constitution in front of the Opera House in Budapest on January 2



http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/03/world/...gary-protests/
 
Old January 8th, 2012 #67
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Default The Trianon agreement

The map basically shows the territorial and population losses suffered by Hungary as a result of the Judeo-Masonic manipulations after WWI and the Trianon agreement. As far as the statistics of the different nationalities on the map those are most likely falsified.

Hungarian losses of territory in the Treaty of Trianon, which is still perceived as wrong by Jobbik



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Old January 9th, 2012 #69
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The map basically shows the territorial and population losses suffered by Hungary as a result of the Judeo-Masonic manipulations after WWI and the Trianon agreement. As far as the statistics of the different nationalities on the map those are most likely falsified.

Hungarian losses of territory in the Treaty of Trianon, which is still perceived as wrong by Jobbik



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobbik
Are you saying the larger dark green areas used to be Hungary?

I would hope the whole world can regain what they have lost to the Judeo-Masonic workings and manipulations.
 
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I would also ask, who was involved in creating the Treaty of Trianon?

Thanks in advance....I appreciate the history lessons.
 
Old January 16th, 2012 #71
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Regime Change Express Surges Toward Budapest
Posted by Daniel McAdams on January 16, 2012 12:15 PM

Poor Tamas Fellegi. Hungary's envoy to the International Monetary Fund had to spend last week enduring endless lectures on democracy and fiscal responsibility from the unelected head of an international financial organization that is largely funded with money stolen from the US taxpayer.

And poor Viktor Orban. Just over twenty years ago the young Hungarian had the temerity to stand up at the reburial of the hero of the 1956 uprising to demand that Soviet troops leave and that the communist regime agree to hold free and democratic elections. The communists didn't like him very much. Orban and many other anti-communists of that era were fighting unelected Moscow-based occupiers who stole his country's sovereignty and ruined its economy for ideological reasons. Now, as Hungary's prime minister, he is fighting against an unelected Brussels and Washington-based force that seeks to steal (what's left of) his country's sovereignty and ruin its economy for ideological reasons.

The Europeans -- and US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton -- are bearing down on the Hungarian government, attacking its "authoritarian tendencies" and demanding that Orban restore democracy. Charles Gati, a State Department official in the administration of Clinton's husband, has gone even further, opining in the pro-opposition news weekly 160 Ora that, "there are opportunities indeed to remove this (Orbán) government -- if possible in a democratic way, if not then in some other way."

Gati, who has been joined at the hip to the renamed Hungarian communist party and its governing allies from even before the regime change in 1989, now threatens a violent overthrow of the democratically-elected Hungarian government -- in the name of promoting democracy! (And if you wonder whether he is serious, click on the above link and you can see that he is pictured in front of the "Regime Change Factory" flag of the CIA-affiliated Freedom House).

(Incidentally, Gati's tireless efforts on behalf of the former communists in Hungary were richly rewarded in 2009, when his friends in the Hungarian government awarded him the Commander’s Cross with the Star of the Order of Merit of the Republic of Hungary. Hmmm... a star?)

So what is the problem with Orban? Well the "problem" for Orban and his center-right political party Fidesz is actually not a lack of democracy, but rather too much democracy! His party was elected with an unprecedented two-thirds majority in 2010 by an electorate brought to its knees by the financial mismanagement and corruption of the long-ruling renamed communists, now called the Hungarian Socialist Party, and its junior coalition partner, the Alliance of Free Democrats, which was literally obliterated in the last election.

The Hungarian voter became outraged when a recording at a private Socialist Party meeting was made public in which then-Prime Minister Ferenc Gyurcsany admitted that his government lied to the population and "screwed up" the country.

Spoke the loquacious Hungarian former communist:

"We have screwed up. Not a little but a lot. No country in Europe has screwed up as much as we have. It can be explained. We have obviously lied throughout the past 18 to 24 months. It was perfectly clear that what we were saying was not true. ...we lied morning, noon and night."

High marks for candidness -- but one must always check for live microphones!

It should hardly surprise observers that after the admitted disaster of Socialist Party governance in Hungary the voters would turn to something new given the opportunity at the polls. But the problem for Fidesz, at least in the eyes of the EU and State Department, is that just too many Hungarians decided to vote for them. More than two-thirds of the country wanted a change of leadership.

But worst of all in the eyes of Brussels and Washington, the Hungarian government actually began using the mandate that had been handed them by the Hungarian people. It is undemocratic to use power gained through the democratic process, apparently. I wonder whether that idea will catch on in the US.

What horrid things did the Orban government do? Well they initiated the re-writing the Stalin-era constitution, but included therein what are to today's Washington and Brussels totally unacceptable language.

As explained in a this excellent editorial in the Scotland on Sunday,

"The new constitution makes the classic statement of Burkean philosophy: 'Our Basic Law is the foundation of our legal system; it is a contract between Hungarians past, present and future.' That recognition of the seamless continuum of history and the transience of generations stands head and shoulders above the trashy verbiage of EU treaties. Not only does it 'recognise the role of Christianity in preserving nationhood', it 'professes that the family and the nation constitute the principal framework of our coexistence'. No wonder it is anathema to the Frankfurt Marxists of the EU....

"It lists the crimes of Communism and lifts the statute of limitations that protected the criminals of the Soviet era who despatched 600,000 Hungarians to concentration camps. Hungary’s transition to democracy is often called painless, because the Red nomenklatura saw the game was up, liquidated state assets and became the new rich. The Hungarian Socialist Workers’ Party dropped one word from its title and soon regained power: Ferenc Gyurcsány, prime minister from 2006 to 2009, was the former president of the Communist Youth Organisation. In a world where nonagenarian Nazis who should have been hanged in 1945 are carried into court in oxygen tents, why is it an outrage for Hungary now to target Red murderers? Well, er, because the right commits atrocities, the left commits mistakes."

Orban's other divergences from "democracy" according to the European Commission and the US administration include using his mandate to bring the Hungarian central bank under the oversight of elected officials rather than remain the purview of highly-paid bureaucrats who more often than not do the bidding of their foreign counterparts at the expense of those who pay their salaries. It is not quite an "end the Fed" movement in Hungary but it certainly could be seen as a move to curb the seemingly limitless power of an unelected Hungarian Ben Bernanke.

As financial expert Andrea Hosso observed regarding claims of Orban "threatening the independence" of the central bank:

"How independent is the US Federal Reserve with its consecutive bouts of Quantitative Easing, or the European Central Bank with its new venture into buying up hundreds of billions of Eurozone bonds to keep the big project afloat?"

No wonder the Obama administration is irritated.

It is particularly rich to see the European Commission threatening legal action against the Hungarian government unless it "return to democracy" by overturning laws such as the above curb on the power of the central bank and a new mandatory retirement age for judges. The European Commission, that paragon of democracy, is as we know an entirely unelected body that meets and votes in secret.

Unfortunately for him in this instance, Orban's tendency to shoot from the hip can come back to haunt him. After declaring last year that no new IMF assistance was needed, Orban's government experienced what seems to some a concerted effort to bring the country to its knees -- to bow before the IMF and international finance. Bond yields soared, Moody’s downgraded the government’s debt to junk status, and the forint has lost 15% of its value. Orban sent Fellegi to Washington, tail between legs, to have his pound of flesh extracted by IMF managing director Christine Lagarde.

Not so fast, said the unelected Lagarde last week. First Hungary must change several of its domestic laws and renew its commitment to democracy. Then the price of a bailout to Hungary's creditors will be a new austerity program on its population. It seems the government is in a panic and will agree to anything for IMF assistance, but they would do well to have a look at Greece, where IMF "reform" is producing its usual results.

As if by design in these situations, the demanded austerity programs will make the ruling regime (who the West wants to change) extremely unpopular. A shocked and bewildered population will take to the streets demanding a change in regime, assisted by the generous support -- and intoxicating lies -- provided by the US regime change experts NED, NDI, and, IRI. Violence may ensue, sovereignty will be destroyed, and the Western-preferred malleable descendents of the old regime will sweep back into power.

Questions the Hungarian government might want to ask instead, looking at its debt obligations, are why should the current population be squeezed to death to repay the endless borrowing by the communist regime in the 1970s and 1980s? Where did that money all go? To build villas in the hills of Buda, no doubt.

The great Bill Bonner suggested last year, "Why Greece Should Default and Go Broke With Dignity." He could be writing for Hungary as well.

Maybe Hungary should just tell Lagarde, José Manuel Barroso, and Hillary Clinton to "stuff it."

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewr...ml#more-103629

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“Socialists call for legal action against Jobbik MP for Holocaust denial
The opposition Socialists welcome that both the Foreign Ministry and the co-ruling Christian Democrats have dissociated themselves from the comments made by radical nationalist Jobbik lawmaker Marton Gyongyosi at the weekend but see a need for further action, Socialist Party leader Attila Mesterhazy told MTI on Monday.

In an interview to Jewish Chronicle covered by the Jerusalem Post, Gyongyosi, who is Jobbik’s foreign affairs spokesman, questioned the number of Hungarian Holocaust victims and compared Israel to a Nazi system. He also said Jobbik supported Iran.

The statements provoked firm protest from both the Foreign Ministry and the Christian Democrats on Sunday.

The Socialists welcomed these reactions but added that both the government and the Speaker of Parliament should take further steps against Gyongyosi, said Mesterhazy.

Should comments that fully or partly deny the Holocaust not entail any political consequence, the Socialists will initiate legal action, he said.”

http://www.politics.hu/20120207/soci...ing-holocaust/
 
Old February 15th, 2012 #73
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Default 21st Century Hungarian lamenting his Fate…

The problem with Hungarians is that today they are lamenting in the face but if it does not work tomorrow they will be voting from the rooftops… and those old trees from 1956 are still standing in Budapest.

“In Hungary it is constitutional to lie, to cheat, to steal, to murder the people and the treason of the homeland and the nation. If I do not accept this am I an extremist!!!?”


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Old February 25th, 2012 #74
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Default Afghan civilians attack Hungarian base – in Afghanistan

It says a lot about the Orban government that they left these soldiers rotting in that faraway country…

 
Old March 7th, 2012 #75
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Statement of Krisztina Moravi who headed the Jobbik list in the last European Parliament elections: "I would be glad if the so-called Hungarian Jews went back to playing with their tiny circumcised dicks instead of vilifying me."
 
Old March 16th, 2012 #76
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Default Hungarian PM compares the EU to commie Soviet tyranny

Hungary is going to get it from the EU…

Hungary prime minister hits out at EU interference in national day speech
“Viktor Orbán on collision course with Brussels as his government attempts to revive aid talks to keep Hungary afloat

Hungarian prime minister Viktor Orbán, centre, delivers a speech in front of the parliament building in Budapest. Photograph: Bernadett Szabo/Reuters
Hungary's strongman prime minister, Viktor Orbán, delivered a stinging broadside against Brussels on Thursday, likening EU bureaucracy to Soviet tyranny and casting himself in the mould of Hungarian heroes fighting to free the country from foreign domination since the 19th century.

Locked in dispute with Brussels for more than a year over media freedoms, economic policy, the central bank, and the judiciary, Orbán put himself on a collision course with the EU just as his government is attempting to secure credits of €20bn (Ł17bn) to keep Hungary afloat.”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...?newsfeed=true
 
Old March 17th, 2012 #77
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This is a very detailed and interesting writing about the runic writings from Tatarlak, presently in Romania. The clay tablets found in the area date back to 4,000 to 6,000 years with Sumerian runic writings. The same writing system was traditionally used and is presently still in use by Hungarians in the area.

At the museum, the information accompanying the exhibits is in the Rumanian language only. The artifacts in the Neolithic section come from the excavations of Zsófia Torma (1840-1899), yet her name is not mentioned anywhere. We were happy to discover, in one
of the display cases, her finds from the crumbling bank of the River Maros. They were broken clay pitchers with runic script on the bottom, among them 6,500 year-old interesting runic letters, e.g (H. Zs. )


http://www.magtudin.org/Mystery%20of...20Part%202.htm
http://cakravartin.com/wordpress/wp-...-friedrich.pdf




What is it?
It's a Runic text processor based on Hungarian runes, a freeware.


Could be used as a tutor to teach runes, or as a translator to convert Hungarian (Latin alphabet) text and display or print it in Hungarian Runic, and of course to type, edit, print, and save runic script in both Left To Right, and Right To Left write directions.

Runes used are the 38 Hungarian-Latin alphabet equivalents ( A to ZS ), and a single rune character: AK. There is no single nor double character in today's Hungarian- Latin alphabet for this AK symbol. It is not part of Hungarian alphabet per se, but an often-occurring sound/ letter-doublet, in the spoken/written language. Apparently there are various versions of Hungarian-Runic alphabets. Undoubtedly the result of evolutionary forces and influences. I picked one that is similar to the Székely runes. Missing from its vocabulary are the various ligatures, bug symbols, and syllabery characters.

The text processor constructs its own runes in monospaced raster font, employing the general straight line and circle formulae: y = a*x + c and r^2 = (x-h)^2 + (y-k)^2. There are two sets of Runic alphabets: a "Left To Right" write-direction, and its mirror image "Right To Left". The program could easily accommodate any non-Latin alphabets or other tokens and symbols.

This example next shows the Left-to-right runes produced by the text processor in the lightest font weight. Here in the example font size is 530 by 530 pixels on medium screen resolution 800 by 600 pixels. The text processor can draw fonts in 10 font weights, with font sizes in the range from 150 to 1212 pixels.

http://www-mtl.look.ca/~elehoczk/frmain.htm

 
Old March 17th, 2012 #78
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I speak the language at a high level and love it but always told Westerners to stay away from it. It is just hopeless for somebody raised with a modern Indo-European language. Hungarian cannot be compressed into modern grammatical structures and will defy them easily. However, I can assure you that the language has music, harmony and beauty to the extreme. This language is a powerful instrument that was strong enough to send ten thousand fighters to kick around whole Red Army divisions in 1956… and the world does not even know how we tortured them bastards at the end of WWII around Budapest.

ABOUT THE HUNGARIAN LANGUAGE


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by János Kalmár
From: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=13148.0


1480 - MARCIO GALOTTI, a humanist in the court of King Mátyás Corvinus stated with amazement: “The Hungarians may be aristocrats or peasants but they all use the same language.”

1609 - POLANUS AMANDUS, the humanist writer who lived in Basle, when Albert Molnár’s “Hungarian Grammar” was published, wrote: “There were some who doubted that the unbridled Hungarian language had any rules but you, in your outstanding work, have really disproved them.”

1790 - JOHANN GOTTFRIED HERDER acknowledged that the Hungarian language is a great treasure: „Is there anything more dear to the people than their own language? Their whole way of thinking lies in their language, their past and their history, their beliefs, and the basis of their whole life, their whole heart and soul.”

1817 - CARDINAL GIUSEPPE MEZZOFANTI, who understood 58 languages and spoke, among many of them, four dialects of Hungarian, greeted the Hungarian bailiff, József, in Bologna with a very spirited Hungarian speech. It was he who said to the Czech linguist, ÁGOSTON FRANKL: “Do you know which language is equal to Latin and Greek in its structure and rhythmic harmony? It is the Hungarian language. I am familiar with the new Hungarian poets, whose verses are completely mesmerizing. Let us watch the future, for the poetic genius will have a sudden upswing, which will prove my statement to be true. It seem as if the Hungarians themselves do not realize what a treasure is hidden in their language.” Cardinal Mezzofanti was made an honorary member of the Hungarian Academy of Science in 1832.

1820 - JAKOB GRIMM established the rules for sound progression and was the first to write a German Grammar. He stated that the Hungarian language is logical, has a perfect structure and surpasses every other language.

1830 - SIR JOHN BOWRING, English traveler and writer, visited Hungary and published an anthology in English of the work of Hungarian writers and poets. „The Hungarian language goes far back. It developed in a very peculiar manner and its structure reaches back to times when most of the now spoken European languages did not even exist. It is a language which developed steadily and firmly in itself, and in which there are logic and mathematics with the adaptability and malleability of strength and chords. The Englishman should be proud that his language indicates an epic of human history. One can show forth its origin; and all layers can be distinguished in it, which gathered together during contacts with different nations. Whereas the Hungarian language is like a rubble-stone, consisting of only one piece, on which the storms of time left not a scratch. It's not a calendar that adjusts to the changes of the ages. It needs no one, it doesn't borrow, does no huckstering, and doesn't give or take from anyone. This language is the oldest and most glorious monument of national sovereignty and mental independence. What scholars cannot solve, they ignore. In philology it's the same way as in archeology. The floors of the old Egyptian temples, which were made out of only one rock, can't be explained. No one knows where they came from, or from which mountain the wondrous mass was taken. How they were transported and lifted to the top of the temples. The genuineness of the Hungarian language is a phenomenon much more wondrous than this.”

1840 - WILHELM SCHOTT, an outstanding German scientist: “ In the Hungarian language there is a fresh, childish, natural view and it cannot but be suspected that there is the possibility of development hidden in it like a bud. It contains many beautiful soft consonants and its vowels are more clearly pronounced than in German. It can be used for short statements and also for powerful oratory, in short, every type of prose. It is built on matching vowel sounds, pleasing rhymes, and its richness and resounding tones are well suited for poetry. This is demonstrated in every branch of poetry.”

1840 - N. ERBESBERG, a world famous professor from Vienna: “The structure of the Hungarian language is such that it appears that linguists could have created it with the purpose of incorporating in it every rule, conciseness, melody and clarity and besides all this it avoided any commonness, difficulty in pronunciation and irregularities.”

1848 - N. SIMPSON: “Letters from the Banks of the Danube.” In this series of articles, he wrote about the Hungarian language in the exciting days of March, (during the 1848 Hungarian Freedom Fight against the Hapsburgs). “The Hungarian language is very poetic, rich and spirited, . . . it is full of enthusiasm and strength and is suited to all kinds of poetical work. It is strong and yet gentle and very pleasing in sound. It is melodic and its expression is clear.”

1857 - MÁTYÁS FLÓRIÁN, linguist and a member of the Hungarian Academy of Science, who was in correspondence with OPPERT, stated: “I gained from Oppert the treasure of the words (Sumerian) and called his attention to the fact that they resembled the words of the ancient Hungarian language.”

1860 - JULES OPPERT emphasized the relationship of the Sumerian and Hungarian languages.

1860 - The German linguists and professors at the Congress of Kiel announced that the only correct name for Mesopotamia’s Turanian ancient populace was “Sumerian”.

1870 - ARCHIBALD SAYCE, Professor of Oriental Studies in Oxford, deciphered the first Sumerian one language text and gave a linguistic analysis of the language. He used comparative linguistics to study different branches of the language. In the course of his research, he examined the relationship of the languages of the entire Turanian language family with the Sumerian language. He found the closest relationship to Sumerian in the Hungarian and Basque languages. He went to Hungary to learn the Hungarian language and also found Hungarian to be the most useful language to read the Sumerian language.

1870 - FRANÇOIS C. LENORMAND, the amazingly talented French linguist, stated: “The Sumerian language, not only in its vocabulary but also in its structure, is a Turanian language.” It is obvious that his work was very thorough because he studied the Hungarian historical phonetic linguistics and he studied the Halotti Beszéd, the Legend of St. Margaret and the Bible of the Hungarian Hussites.

1873 - LENORMAND formulated the first Sumerian Grammar and also made a thorough comparative study of the grammar and vocabulary of the Ural-Altaic languages. By so doing, he proved the relationship between the Ural-Altaic languages and Sumerian.

1873 - EDOUARD SAYOUS, a French historian proved the linguistic comparisons of Lenormand. In 1869 and 1896, he was in Hungary and he learned Hungarian. In acknowledgement of his work, he was made a member of the Hungarian Kisfaludy Literary Guild.

1875 - FRANÇOIS C. LENORMAND strongly advocated that the language that discovered writing was most closely related to Hungarian. Therefore he traveled again to Hungary to learn the language more thoroughly. In his book “The Ancient Language of the Chaldeans and the Turanian Languages” from phonetics to the noun suffixes, almost entirely relying on the logic and pronunciation of the Hungarian language, he continued his research into the comparison between the Sumerian and the Turanian languages. He found that the Sumerian phonetic rules were based on the Hungarian.

1875 - HEINRICH GELZER, a Swiss linguist, in an article entitled: Das Ausland, stated that the Sumerian noun and verb suffixes were identical to those of the Turanian languages.

1875 - OSCAR PESCHEL, a German ethnographer, professor at the University of Leipzig, wrote: “The most ancient cuneiform writing was developed in the city of Ur, the so-called Sumerian-Akkadian writing. This ancient people was called Turanian.”

1876 - DOPHUS RUGE, a German scholar, in his work: Die Turanien in Chaldäe, stated: “Now, among the Turanian peoples, a people of first-class culture has appeared – the Sumerians.”

1879 - ZSÓFIA TORMA, archeologist and researcher, on the encouragement of Floris Rómer, in 1875, began archeological excavations on the banks of the Maros River in Tordos and its vicinity and found 10,387 artifacts with Sumerian characters. Among the 4,500 year-old ceramic shards, she found four with Szekler runic script. She suggested the possibility that the writings on the Tordos finds were connected to the Assyrian and Babylonian writings. She came to the conclusion that the ancient people of Babylon belonged to the Sumerian-Akkadian people who were a Turanian people.

1881 - ERNEST DE SARZEC, a French researcher, discovered LAGAS, the first Sumerian city. In his excavations he discovered 40,000 clay tablets with cuneiform characters.

1883 - Dr. ÁGOSTON HALÁSZ, Bishop of Kassa, in his study: Legújabb ősnyelv (The Newest Ancient Language) clearly follows the spread of human civilization from Sumer to Assyria, to the Hittite Empire and then to Greece. His conclusion was that the first pioneers in city dwelling were the Sumerians, who were identical to the Hungarians.

1887 - Dr. SÁNDOR GIESSWEIN, a canon and linguist, to prove the Sumerian-Hungarian relationship, used anthropological examples and a thorough comparative study of the grammar of the two languages.

1. He demonstrated the similarity between the flexional endings of the Sumerian personal pronouns and the Hungarian objective conjugation.

2. Both languages are agglutinative.

3. The prepositional endings and affixes, in Sumerian and in the Ural-Altaic languages are eroded nouns.

4. The connection between the Sumerian and Ural-Altaic languages is that the simple suffix can express the noun-relationship.

5. A common characteristic of these languages is the use of the possessive suffix, to which additional connected suffixes can be added.

6. Obviously, the close relationship of more possessive suffixes in the Sumerian and Hungarian languages can be observed.

1896 - Dr. K. A. HERMANN, Estonian researcher in the Russian Oriental Archeology Congress, in Riga, stated: “On the basis of linguistic conformity to rules and identity, my opinion is that the Sumerian language is related to the Ural-Altaic languages.”

1900 - Dr. GYULA FERENCZY, University professor, in his work: A szumirok nemzetiségi és nyelvi hovatartozása (Where the Sumerian People and Language Belong), he stated the following: “From the facts that we already know, there is no doubt that the Sumerians are an ancient branch of the Turanian people.”

1913 - JÁNOS GALGÓCZY, linguist, pointed out that both Hungarian and Sumerian possess the special subjective and objective conjugation.

1916 - Dr. ZSIGMOND VARGA spoke fourteen languages. In 1920, on the basis of his book Ötezer év távlatából (From a Distance of Five Thousand Years), the Hungarian Academy of Science acknowledged the relationship between the Sumerian and the Ural-Altaic languages.

1926 - JÓZSEF ACZÉL, linguist, in his book Szittya-görög eredetünk (Our Scythian-Greek Origins), stated:

1.

“The Hungarian Grammar and three thousand root words are identical to the Hellenic Greek.”
2.

“The Szekler and Scythian and ancient Hellenic scripts are identical.”
3.

“Some of the words, when they are written, are surprisingly similar (read from right to left).”

It is a unique linguistic phenomenon that, in the whole world, apart from the classical Latin and Ancient Greek languages, only in Hungarian can poems be written in classical hexameter.

“In some of the Hungarian folk songs, the melody is so old that the Scythians may even have sung them accompanied by their ‘musikos.’”

1927 - JULES ROMAINS, one of the greatest poets of modern France, when he visited Hungary, stated: “Because I did not understand the Hungarian language, I tried with all my strength to feel it. I felt that it was full of power; I know no other language that appears so masculine. It is a passionate masculine language.”

1932 - EDGAR CLEMENT, German linguist, was so impressed by the musicality of the language that he learned Hungarian. According to him, the Hungarian language had a magical strength, which reflected a deep spirituality and only the highest ranking languages, especially the old classical languages could match up to it.

1939 - GÉZA BÁRCZY, member of the Hungarian Academy of Science, discovered the 5000 year-old Sumerian suffixes and proved that they were identical to the Hungarian suffixes.

1940 - Sir LEONARD WOOLLEY, English archeologist and linguist, excavated the Sumerian city, Ur of the Chaldees. He found 400,000 clay tablets, which were covered with linguistic material. He made a glossary and deciphered a large number of texts for the Institutum Biblicum in Rome, among them a six volume Sumerisches Lexicon, in which he deciphered 4,000 words.

1943 - BÁLINT HÓMAN, historian: “According to our present knowledge, the Sumerian language belongs to the Caucasian Japhet language family. In the future, when we analyze the ancient Hungarian words of Caucasian and unknown origin, we should not disregard the Sumerian and Huttite-Hurrite language remains.

1948 - RENÉ LABAT, Director of Studies at the École des Hautes-Études in Paris, developed a dictionary of Cuneiform signs that were numbered, for the use of his students.

1953 - ANTON DEIMEL S. J., Principal of the Institutum Biblicum in Rome and editor of the Sumerisches Lexicon, in the letter which he wrote to Dr. Ida Bobula, stated: “I have not the slightest qualm about accepting the Hungarian-Sumerian relationship.”

1962 - ÁRPÁD ORBÁN, researcher who followed the theory of probability introduced by Jószef Aczél, and developed the rules for the dating of the word relationships.

1963 - VIKTOR PADÁNYI, historian, in his book entitled Dentumagyaria, examined the Sumerian-Hungarian vocabulary and, on the basis of phonetics and meaning, stated: “The spirit of the Sumerian and Hungarian languages, their structure and grammar are almost identical and, by this same measure, they differ from other languages.”

1966 - JÁNOS HARMATTA, historian and academician, stated that, in 1961, N. Vlassa, an archeologist from Kolozsvár, discovered in Tatarlaka one round and one rectangular clay tablet, on which the signs could be easily deciphered with the help of Sumerian pictograms which they resembled.

1968 - ANDRÁS ZAKAR, linguist and researcher in cultural history, demonstrated the language development on the basis of dating methods, and showed that in the Hungarian language, after 5000 years, out of one hundred words, 63 words were Sumerian and 12 Akkadian. This shows not only relationship but also direct descent. The newest scientific methods prove that the Sumerian-Hungarian linguistic analyses are based on certain historical and archeological evidence.

1970 - IDA BOBULA, philosopher and historian, a researcher who spoke seven languages fluently, in her books Sumir rokonság (Sumerian Relationship) and A magyar nemzet eredete (The origin of the Hungarian People), and also in A 2000 magyar név sumir eredete (The Sumerian Origin of 2000 Hungarian Names) demonstrated that a majority of Hungarian names can be understood with the help of the Sumerian dictionary. In her analyses, she states that the returning Magyars brought with them a Scythian language, developed in Sumer.

1976 - ADORJÁN MAGYAR: “The majority of the European peoples learned to read and write only after they were converted to Christianity, while the Magyars lost their own runic script after their conversion because the Church regarded it as pagan.”

1976 - ELEMÉR NOVOTNY, linguistic researcher, in his book Sumir nyelv = Magyar nyelv, (Sumerian Language = Hungarian Language) published in Switzerland in 1976, convincingly proved that that a large part of the Sumerian vocabulary was identical to Hungarian. He presented the cuneiform tables of RENÉ LABAT, in which 13 Sumerian cuneiform signs could be understood and were identical to the Szekler runic script.

1976 - DÉNES OSETZKY, researcher and engineer, came to the conclusion that: “Inasmuch as the Sumerian language elements in the Hungarian language are the result of the connections between the two peoples, the initial influence could be only such a group which anthropologically belonged to the ethnic type of the Homecoming Magyars.

1976 - FERENC BADINY-JÓS, university professor, stated that the total number of cuneiform signs was approximately 4,800, but this did not include the words created from the cuneiform signs. He proved the Sumerian-Hungarian language identity with help of the 6000 year-old cuneiform tablets. He explained that the name of the Hungarians, HUN-GAR, just as the Asian name HUN, has been known for 5000 years and the name of the MAH-GAR people is now known as Sumerian.

1977 - SÁNDOR CSŐKE, linguist, according to his final conclusions about the Hungarian language:

a) It is an original ancient language.

b) Its structure is entirely Hungarian.

c) Its vocabulary is 95% Hungarian.

1977 - KÁLMÁN GOSZTONYI, professor at the St. Michael’s College in Paris, with the financial support of the French government, published his book: Összehasonlító szumir nyelvtan, (Comparative Sumerian Grammar) and stated that from 53 Sumerian grammatical characteristics, 51 are identical to the Hungarian, for example:

a) The adjective is singular, the noun is plural e.g. jó emberek

b) The interrogative pronouns and numerals can have a possessive suffix. E.g. Mi-d van? Az én tíz-em.

c) Nouns may be in singular or plural. E.g. kéz, kezek. Juh, juhok.

d) The same word can indicate both genders. E.g. ember, gyermek, testvér

e) An independent verb can create a sentence by itself. E.g. Fáj.

Besides the grammar, he presented, from the collection of cuneiform signs of Labat, Árpád Orbán’s new methods of dating and, with this, he examined 93 Sumerian words.

1980 - BÉLA OLÁH, an independent researcher, in his book: Édes magyar nyelvünk szumir eredete,(The Sumerian Origin of our Sweet Hungarian Language) states the following identities:

1.

The Hungarian vowels and consonants are completely identical to the Sumerian.
2.

Vowel harmony is present in both languages.
3.

Words may not begin with two consonants.
4.

Both languages are agglutinative.
5.

They do not distinguish gender.
6.

The Hungarian verbal suffixes are more developed than the Sumerian.

1988 - SÁNDOR FORRAI, professor and expert in scripts, in the collection of ceramic shards in the Museum of Kolozsvár, in which Zsófia Torma recognized four Szekler runic characters, found eight more and stated that, in Tatarlaka, N. Vlassa in 1961, excavated a round clay amulet, on which there were four segments containing script. Among the 10 characters, six of them were clearly recognizable as Magyar runic script and two more show a close resemblance. He traces the origin of the Magyar runic script to the writings found in Mesopotamia, which are 3,500 years old. It is not accidental that the linear script, developed from the pictographs, remained in the Hungarian script as runic script and has survived to the present, in spite of the fact that, in the course of a thousand years, from the 34 runic letters, the Hungarians had to adapt to the 24 Latin letters, which made it very difficult to express the double consonants.

1989 - ISTVÁN ERDÉLYI, archeologist, in his book, Sumir rokonság (Sumerian Relationship), writes: “Among the Faculties of the Hungarian Universities, there should be a chair for Assyriology, which should also encompass Sumerology.”

1990 - JÁNOS MAKKAY, archeologist, in his study, A tartariai leletek (The Tartarian Finds) states that the attempts to understand and decipher the Sumerian words themselves verify the Jamdet Nasr connections.
 
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The Old Hungarian script (in Hungarian known as rovásírás, or székely rovásírás,[1] székely-magyar rovás; for short also simply rovás “notch, score”[2]) is an alphabetic writing system used by the Magyars in the Early Middle Ages (7th to 10th centuries). Because it is reminiscent of the runic alphabet, the Old Hungarian script has also popularly been called “Hungarian runes” or “Hungarian runic script”. The script is adapted to the phonology of the Hungarian language, featuring letters for phonemes such as cs, gy, ly, ny, ö, sz, ty, ü, zs.. The modern Hungarian alphabet represents these sounds with digraphs (letter sequences used to write a single sound) and diacritics. The Hungarian Runes are related to the Old Turkic script, itself probably (though debatedly) deriving from Aramaic script.[3] This is supported by the Hungarian tribes’ early geographical proximity to the Göktürks. Moreover, all the letters but one for sounds which were shared by Turkic and Ancient Hungarian can be related to their Old Turkic counterparts.

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