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Old April 4th, 2013 #42
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RadicalTraditionalist Says:

4 April, 2013 at 12:47 am

“The Federal Reserve System is not federal; it has no reserves; and it is not a system at all, but rather, a criminal syndicate.” –Eustace Mullins, Secrets of the Federal Reserve (1947)

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4 April, 2013 at 10:15 am

Germany found out the hard way what the Confederacy had already experienced:

“The war wasn’t only about abolishing fascism, but to conquer sales markets. We could have, if we had intended so, prevented this war from breaking out without doing one shot, but we didn’t want to.” — Winston Churchill to Truman (Fultun, USA March 1946)

“Germany’s unforgivable crime before WW2 was its attempt to loosen its economy out of the world trade system and to build up an independent exchange system from which the world-finance couldn’t profit anymore. …We butchered the wrong pig.” — Winston Churchill (The Second World War – Bern, 1960)

“We made a monster, a devil out of Hitler. Therefore we couldn’t disavow it after the war. After all, we mobilized the masses against the devil himself. So we were forced to play our part in this diabolic scenario after the war. In no way we could have pointed out to our people that the war only was an economic preventive measure.” — US foreign minister James Baker (1992)
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Old April 11th, 2013 #43
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Old April 15th, 2013 #44
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Robert White 4 days ago

Flooding ALL White countries and ONLY White countries with non-Whites and then forcing assimilation is a program of White genocide.

Africa will still be full of Africans

Asia will still be full of Asians.

Only White children will suffer from this.

Read the UN genocide conventions: It is genocide, White Genocide.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-White.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.
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naturesavatar 5 days ago

i have no doubt there IS no gold in the treasury, it's in the sky, the upper atmosphere to be exact, it's in the "chemtrails" protecting the earth from the sun, because our ozone layer has disappeared for the most part...and if you doubt this information do some research and come to your own conclussion.
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Rafi111sf 1 week ago

yes it is. 
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Rafi111sf 1 week ago

"When" doesnt really matter....
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NIPSZ 3 weeks ago

Who cares if the price of silver and gold is being suppressed. The price of coins is still much higher than spot. If you buy any silver or gold it sells for an extremely higher amount than the spot price. The actual price does not mean anything except for Comex paper silver and the stock market. The price of coins is extremely overvalued due to the current demand.
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I don’t recall any point in history where debt monetization has ever ended well for the currency of that particular nation. In fact, it has always led to the collapse of currencies.

But what we are seeing right now is the price of commodities continues to fall in spite of massive money printing, and it has central planners concerned because their tools are becoming less and less effective.

In a debt based economy, if you don’t have a constant increase in borrowing, and if you don’t have a constant increase in the amount of debt that consumers are willing to take on, then the economy contracts. That’s what we are dealing with here.
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Paul Craig Roberts

There is a lousy anti White commercial at the start.
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Are you ready to pay the debt ?

All the White's who have never lifted a finger to oppose the hostile non White open borders invasion, along with all sorts of looting for security and war are now going to have to pay the piper.

Hey, NPR fan's how are your dance steps going to be once the music starts ? If you don't have money or food no problem, but you will have plenty of your divershitty savage's howling around you.

Good dancing to you.

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Old May 18th, 2013 #49
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Rubber hose media has to have a woman dressed as trash IMO, and yapping around in circles IMO.

This is not by chance what is happening.


Listen to his last words.

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Kidogo's World: Fraudulent money and the shift of power

Essay on Money
As a Medium of Commerce; With Remarks on the Advantages and Disadvantages of Paper Admitted into General Circulation.

by John Witherspoon

This essay may have planted the seed that germinated in the mind of Roger Sherman and became what is known as the "hard money clause" of the Constitution, Article 1, Section 10. In any case, it surely influenced its passage in the Convention.

* * *
THEORY OF MONEY

Essay on Money I
What gave rise to money, its nature and use
The first necessity: a standard of computation
Some sign or signs must be agreed upon
The nature and meaning of these signs
The sign the nature of a promissory note
Signs facilitate commerce
All mere signs are deficient
Essay on Money II
Gold and silver, answer all three ends
Qualities money should possess
1 Value
Either necessary or remarkably useful or desirable
Ductility, durability, and other qualities, make gold and silver exceedingly fit for domestic utensils
Eminent contrary opinions and intrinsic value
Essay on Money III
2 Rarity
3 Portability
4 Divisibility
5 Durability
All united, in gold and silver
Gold, silver, and copper, were the most ancient metals
Use of baser metals
* * *
INFERENCES DERIVED FROM THE THEORY

Essay on Money IV
"Scarcity of Circulating Medium" is Nonsense
Money itself must be a commodity as well as sign and standard
Depreciation because of quantity increase is irregular
Depreciation results from industry and trade, but pernicious when from increased circulating medium not related to industry
Paper money is not money; legal tender is an absurdity
Essay on Money V
Commerce founded upon Contract
Essential condition of lawful contract is that it be free and mutual
An Attempt to apply authority to that which is not its proper object
Privilege, license, and voluntary engagement
Counter-ProductiveLaws
Tender laws contradict the very first principles of commerce
Essay on Money VI
Paper circulating as a medium of commerce is a promissory note -- not money.
It is the public opinion that must ultimately give them currency
Proper use of paper currency
Over-abundance of gold and silver
Essay on Money VII
Benefits of Paper
Facilitating commerce
Extending credit
Essay on Money VIII
Evil done by paper
Evil of doubtful paper
Resolution of the question of paper money
Principles on which it ought to be conducted
[URLEssay on Money IX[/URL]
Advantages of Bank Paper
Objection Against Banks
A defect in the system
Proposal
Answer to Objection
Essay on Money X
Summing Up
Conclusion
Biographical Note: John Witherspoon

Dr. John Witherspoon (1723-1794), Signer of the Declaration of Independence and educator of James Madison and other founders of our nation, was the author of the well-reasoned Essay on Money, which undoubtedly gave respected support to Roger Sherman's igenious hard money clause in Article I, Section 10, of the Constitution -- that most remarkable remedy that rescued our nation from near oblivion in its infancy. This is "must" reading for anyone who entertains any illusions about government-issue "money," wonderful as "free of interest to the Fed" may sound. (Dr. Witherspoon's impressive credentials are detailed in the Biographical Note at the end.)

(Roger Sherman's own definitive treatise, A Caveat Against Injustice, or An Inquiry into the Evils of a Fluctuating Medium of Exchange, rescued from the obscurity of only two copies in existence and republished by Spencer Judd, can be found in The Treasury, which is bound with Remarkable Remedy.)
 
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Forasmuch, as there have been many disputes arisen of late concerning the medium of exchange in this colony, which have been occasioned chiefly by reason of our having such large quantities of paper Bills of Credit on some of the neighboring governments passing in payments among us, and some of those governments having issued much larger sums of Bills than were necessary to supply themselves with a competent medium of exchange, and not having supplied their treasuries with any fund for maintaining the credit of such Bills; they have therefore been continually depreciating and growing less in their value, and have been the principal means of the depreciation of the Bills of Credit emitted by this colony, by their passing promiscuously with them; and so have been the occasion of much embarrassment and injustice in the trade and commerce of the colony, and many people — and especially widows and orphans — have been great sufferers thereby.

But our Legislature having at length taken effectual care to prevent further depreciation of the Bills of this colony, and the other governments not having taken the prudent care, their Bills of Credit are still sinking in their value, and have in fact sunk much below the value of the Bills of this colony.

Yet some people among us, by long custom, are so far prejudiced in favor of a sinking medium, and others not being really sensible of the true state of the case, are inclined to think that Bills of Credit on the neighboring governments ought to be a legal tender in payments in this colony for all debts due by Book and otherwise where there is no special contract expressly mentioning some other currency, and others being of a different opinion, the disputes have been carried on so far as to occasion some expense in the law, and may be likely to occasion much more, unless prevented by those prejudices being some way removed. And since it is a cause wherein everyone is more or less interested, I have ventured to show my opinion, with a sincere desire to have peace and justice maintained and promoted in the colony. I do not desire any person to approve of my observations any further than he finds them agreeable to the principles of justice and right reason.


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Old May 20th, 2013 #52
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Washington Signals Dollar Deep Concerns — Paul Craig Roberts
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Over the past month there has been a statistically improbable concurrence of events that can only be explained as a conspiracy to protect the dollar from the Federal Reserve’s policy of Quantitative Easing (QE).

Quantitative Easing is the term given to the Federal Reserve’s policy of printing 1,000 billion new dollars annually in order to finance the US budget deficit by purchasing US Treasury bonds and to keep the prices high of debt-related derivatives on the “banks too big to fail” (BTBF) balance sheets by purchasing mortgage-backed derivatives. Without QE, interest rates would be much higher, and values on the banks’ balance sheets would be much lower.

Quantitative Easing has been underway since December 2008. During these 54 months, the Federal Reserve has created several trillion new dollars with which the Fed has monetized the same amount of debt.

One result of this policy is that most real US interest rates are negative. Another result is that the supply of dollars has outstripped the world’s demand for dollars.

These two results are the reason that the Federal Reserve’s policy of printing money with which to purchase Treasury bonds and mortgage backed derivatives threatens the dollar’s exchange value and, thus, the dollar’s role as world reserve currency.

To be the world reserve currency means that the dollar can be used to pay any and every country’s oil bills and trade deficit. The dollar is the medium of international payment.

This is very helpful to the US and is the main source of US power. Because the dollar is the reserve currency, the US can cover its import costs and pay for its cost of operation simply by creating its own paper money.

If the dollar were not the reserve currency, Washington would not be able to finance its wars or continue to run large trade and budget deficits. Therefore, protecting the exchange value of the dollar is Washington’s prime concern if it is to remain a superpower.

The threats to the dollar are alternative monies--currencies that are not being created in enormous quantities, gold and silver, and Bitcoins, a digital currency.

The Bitcoin threat was eliminated on May 17 when the Gestapo Department of Homeland Security seized Bitcoin’s accounts. The excuse was that Bitcoin had failed to register in keeping with the US Treasury’s anti-money laundering requirements.

Washington has stifled the threat from other currencies by convincing other large currencies to out-print the dollar. Japan has complied, and the European Central Bank, though somewhat constrained by Germany, has entered the printing mode in order to bail out the private banks endangered by the “sovereign debt crisis.”

That leaves gold and silver. The enormous increase in the prices of gold and silver over the last decade convinced Washington that there are a number of miscreants who do not trust the dollar and whose numbers must not be permitted to increase.

The price of gold rose from $272 an ounce in December 2000 to $1,917.50 on August 23, 2011. The financial gangsters who own and run America panicked. With the price of the dollar collapsing in relation to historical real money, how could the dollar’s exchange rate to other currencies be valid? If the dollar’s exchange value came under attack, the Federal Reserve would have to stop printing and would lose control over interest rates.

The bond and stock market bubbles would pop, and the interest payments on the federal debt would explode, leaving Washington even more indebted and unable to finance its wars, police state, and bankster bailouts.

Something had to be done about the rising price of gold and silver.

There are two bullion markets. One is a paper market in New York, Comex, where paper claims to gold are traded. The other is the physical market where personal possession is taken of the metal--coin shops, bullion dealers, jewelry stores.

The way the banksters have it set up, the price of bullion is not set in the markets in which people actually take possession of the metals. The price is set in the paper market where speculators gamble.

This bifurcated market gave the Federal Reserve the ability to protect the dollar from its printing press.

On Friday, April 12, 2013, short sales of gold hit the New York market in an amount estimated to have been somewhere between 124 and 400 tons of gold. This enormous and unprecedented sale implies an illegal conspiracy of sellers intent on rigging the market or action by the Federal Reserve through its agents, the BTBF that are the bullion banks.

The enormous sales of naked shorts drove down the gold price, triggering stop-loss orders and margin calls. The attack continued on Monday, April 15, and has continued since.

Before going further, note that there are position limits imposed on the number of contracts that traders can sell at one time. The 124 tons figure would have required 14 traders with no open interest on the exchange to sell all together in the same few minutes 40,000 futures contracts. The likelihood of so many traders deciding to short at the same moment at the maximum permitted is not believable. This was an attack ordered by the Federal Reserve, which is why there is no investigation of the illegality.

Note also that no seller that wanted out of a position would give himself a low price by dumping an enormous amount all at once unless the goal was not profit but to smash the bullion price.

Since the April 12-15 attack on the gold price, subsequent attacks have occurred at 2pm Hong Kong time and 2 am New York time. At this time activity is light, waiting on London to begin operating. As William S.Kaye has observed, no entity concerned about profits would choose this time to sell 20,000 to 30,000 futures contracts, but this is what has been happening.

Who can be unconcerned with losing money in this way? Only a central bank that can print it.

Now we come to the physical market where people take possession of bullion instead of betting on paper instruments. Look at this chart from ZeroHedge. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-0...hysical-vs-etf The demand for physical possession is high, despite the assault on gold that began in 2011, but as the price is set in the non-real paper market, orchestrated short sales, as in the current quarter of 2013, can drive down the price regardless of the fact that the actual demand for gold and silver cannot be met.

While the corrupt Western financial press urges people to abandon bullion, everyone is trying to purchase more, and the premiums above the spot price have risen. Around the world there is a shortage of gold and silver in the forms, such as one-ounce coins and ten-ounce bars, that individuals demand.

That the decline in gold and silver prices is an orchestration is apparent from the fact that the demand for bullion in the physical market has increased while naked short sales in the paper market imply a flight from bullion.

What does this illegal manipulation of markets by the Federal Reserve tell us? It tells us that the Federal Reserve sees no way out of printing money in order to support the federal deficit and the insolvent banks. If the dollar came under attack and the Federal Reserve had to stop printing dollars, interest rates would rise. The bond and stock markets would collapse. The dollar would be abandoned as reserve currency. Washington would no longer be able to pay its bills and would lose its hegemony. The world of hubristic Washington would collapse.

It remains to be seen whether Washington can prevail over the world demand for gold and silver. Can the dollar remain supreme when offshoring has deprived the US of the ability to cover its imports with exports? Can the dollar remain supreme when the Federal reserve is creating 1,000 billion new ones each year, while the BRICS, China and Japan, China and Australia, and China and Russia are making deals to settle their trade balances without the use of the dollar?

If the consumption-based US economy deprived of consumer income by jobs offshoring takes a further dip down in the third or fourth quarter--a downturn that cannot be masked by phony statistical releases--the federal deficit will rise. What will be the effect on the dollar if the Federal Reserve has to increase its Quantitative Easing?

A perfect storm has been prepared for America. Real interest rates are negative, but debt and money are being created hand over foot. The dollar’s demise awaits the world’s decision how to get out of it. The Federal Reserve can print dollars with which to keep the bond and stock markets high, but the Federal Reserve cannot print foreign currencies with which to keep the dollar afloat.

When the dollar goes, Washington’s power goes, which is why the bullion market is rigged. Protect the power. That is the agenda. Is it another Washington over-reach?


Bitcoin Note: On May 16, PCWorld reported: “The seizure of funds of the largest bitcoin exchange, Mt. Gox, was triggered by an alleged failure of the company to comply with U.S. financial regulations, according to a federal court document. The U.S. District Court in Maryland on Tuesday ordered the seizure of Mt. Gox’s funds, which were in an account with Dwolla, a payments company that transferred money from U.S. citizens to Mt. Gox for buying and selling the virtual currency bitcoin.”
Reports subsequent to my column suggest that instead of funds being seized, a money transfer mechanism was shut down. Whatever happened, the government has demonstrated that it can disable or destroy Bitcoin at will. Bitcoin might be tolerated unless it becomes widely used. If the government regards Bitcoin as a refuge from the dollar, it can simply have its agents buy up the Bitcoins, driving the price skyhigh, and then dump the purchases all at once, just as tons of gold shorts were dumped on the gold market.
Bitcoin showed its vulnerability in April when, according to news reports, someone gave away $13,627 worth of Bitcoins, and Bitcoin values crashed from $265 to $105. Some people who watch this market concluded that the exercise was a covert central bank stress test.
The fact that I reported on Bitcoin does not mean that I oppose Bitcoin. The point of my article is to demonstrate that the government will take all steps to protect the dollar from Quantitative Easing.
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