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Old April 19th, 2015 #21
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A tale of genetic will:
A guy and his buddy go Elk hunting. They are way the fuck out in forest staying in a small camper. This guy is 80 years old, hiking up one side of the mountain and down the other, packing out Elk meat. At the end of the day they go to sleep. In the time they lay down til early morning it snows 3 feet. The snow blocks the vents on the camper and causes the cabin to fill with carbon-monoxide. The old geezer wakes up to find his partner dead. He then stumbles out of the camper in delirium, stumbles around in the snow and gets hypothermia. He lived. True story.
He's the most bad ass guy in the bar at 80 years old.
 
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Why is it that Zyklon B is so well known whereas the much more common and just as lethal, according to the official Holocaust story, diesel engine exhaust from captured Soviet tanks, so much more obscure?

If you even bring diesel engine up as a death method, people look like you as if you were the CRACKPOT. Pardon me, but that has been the official story for 70 years now. I have found that speaking about Belzec, Sobibor and Treblinka idiocy is the very best way to get people off of the Holocaust myth.

Furthermore, I find that you must simply avoid mention and discussion of Auschwitz until larger points are made about diesel engines, Buchenwald as a PSYOPS with idiocy as lurid as claiming Nazis were shrinking human heads (!!!) and the like. The jew is very crafty with language and has spent the last 70 years perfecting the words "Auschwitz" and "Zyklon B" and even "shower heads" as thought-terminating cliches.

http://jorgenmodin.net/index_html/wi...tical_examples

"A thought-terminating cliché is a commonly used phrase, sometimes passing as folk wisdom, used to propagate cognitive dissonance (discomfort experienced when one simultaneously holds two or more conflicting cognitions, e.g. ideas, beliefs, values or emotional reactions). Though the phrase in and of itself may be valid in certain contexts, its application as a means of dismissing dissent or justifying fallacious logic is what makes it thought-terminating."

"Hmm, Hunter does not seem to be a raving madman I was told all Holocaust 'deniers' were and he's raising good points about Operation Reinhard camps."

{somebody says Auschwitz, Zyklon B or shower heads}

BRAIN SHUTS OFF.

Also, as a final point, should questioning of the Holocaust be a major point with us? I find people who shy away and even downplay and discourage research and discussion on this issue to be jew-tools and Kosher Konservatives.
 
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Yep. It's controlled opposition/verbal. that means words. If I'm going to foist a lie on you, I not only prepare the lie carefully, I prefer terms to forestall opposition. 'Conspiracy theory,' is common. All theories of who was behind the WTC demolitions are CT, but only those opposed to the govt CT are described that. And that satisfies the general public. People just aren't built for debate, they're wired for conformity. The question is who is behind the broadspeaker telling them which position they need to conform to.

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I think the H is a great opportunity for us, not a problem we need to somehow step over. Even if it weren't its lies foisted on our kids daily, so how can we avoid it? We let the jews tell us white people are evil and mass murder others for no reason? And we dont take up that attack, that smear, that Big Lie? Of course we do. And we attack jews with the truth. The H is one area where it is worth defending because it is as good as an overt attack to point out that what jews say are demonstrable lies.

just yesterday, i talked to an 18yo kid on twitter. got him to wonder, i'm reasonably sure. I take this approach.

"Jews used to claim they were made into soap and lampshades and gassed.

They've admitted the soap was a lie.

They've admitted the lampshades were a lie.

They will eventually admit the gas chambers were a lie.

I think this is an effective way to go at it.

And then use the IHR link on the gas chamber at Auschwitz being a reconstruction after the war - AKA a fake called a 'reconstruction.'
 
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[this thread is for BTLs. aka white pilpul, aka reasoning as effectively as possible. coming up with the best arguments, and the best verbal expressions. ...

here's my take, quickly. see if you can come up with other points or more effective ones. effective has to do with being logically or evidentially undeniable or plausible, but also with the brilliance with which one is able to make the point, as brilliance enhances memorableness. think of a woman with a beautifully taut body. that's your logic. how you dress it is your expression of that logic. MAKE THEM DROOL. women want to be you; men want to be with you. James Whitebond.]


E. Michael Jones on 'White Guys' (self.WhiteRights)
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Someone on YouTube has posted a series of videos called "Goy Guide to World History" consisting of an interview with Catholic scholar/apologist E. Michael Jones.

In part 5, Dr. Jones criticizes the 'white guy' movement and the notion of white identity. You can watch it here. (I've transcribed it for your convenience, but I would recommend watching).

So what people think about this little spiel of his. Specifically, what do you think of his position on the inherent weaknesses of white identity?

If you think white identity is ABSTRACT, then walk down a beach full of mexicans. Or walk through a black neighborhood. I'm not talking about violence. Just feel the feelings that come over you. Can also effect this feeling by being processed into jail. If you think RACE is abstract, try religion. If anything MORE mexican and blacks are christian than whites, yet any white man will feel a visceral DISconnection to them.

I remember being at a conference at Washington and they had this guy Tyndall who was head of the BNP, British National Party in the 70s. And he gave a speech in which he said how we should all be proud to be white guys. And then as an example of white culture, he mentioned Elizabethan England. That’s when the Catholics were being drawn and quartered. So in other words, it’s not going to fly. intra-white struggles dont kill off the entire species. do you really mean to say if whites killed themselves off in stupid or hugely meaningful religious disputes, the 40 million nigerian catholics would be just as able to carry on? you don't see any significant racial difference there? or you just think it doesn't matter?

After the speech, Tyndall was asked: are the Irish white? Tyndall says, “of course they’re white, my mother is Irish.” Are Jews white? And Tyndall says, “I don’t know.”
It got to the heart of this ridiculous ideology of “white guys.” why is it ridiculous? it's obviously felt to be real by many people. and we can demonstrate it matters more than religion in almost every context. you have to go back hundreds of years ago to find whites caring about insignificant religious matters, which were nothing but veiled money struggles in most cases. we can point to every single white western nation on the globe to see how important race is. to call it an ideology is wrong when reality confirms, in human behavior, that races group with their own. and religion doesn't change that. I don’t believe in “white guys.” Yeah, you just live around them. Like other whites. You just, like many whites, refuse to admit what you're doing. You would never live among Nigerian or Mexican catholics if you could live among white protestants. Feel free to tell me and the world otherwise. The world will laugh at you because what you say will be untrue. There was a time in America if you lived in the South, you were a Protestant, and there was a large ferment going on called “the Civil Rights Movement” that polarized both sides. If you lived in the North, you were Irish and you were Catholic, and you were Polish, and all that other type of stuff. And that’s the type of identity, ethnic identity, that is real. Stick a Polish guy and and Irish guy near some niggers, and ask them how much their own ethnic differences bother them compared to the black's racial difference. Your planted axiom is race doesn't matter because ethnicity matters. That doesn't make sense. Race is an even deeper divide than ethnicity. You are doing what you criticize elsewhere: making truth conform to your ideology, rather than conforming your beliefs to the facts, as you should.

And so what you have now is a guy like Pat Buchanan, who just sent me his latest book with a nice flattering inscription on the front of it, saying “We white guys have to stick together.” Pat, you’re not a white guy. You’re a Catholic. Catholics are not “white guys.” So Pat Buchanan sees white identity as real and highly important. A real base of brotherhood. Do you really feel more kinship with illegal mexican aliens than white protestants? Go ahead and tell me and the world you do, that we can enjoy a good bellylaugh.

I don’t know what I have to say….and I think there is an element of Jewish misdirection, leading people into this trap. You know what I mean? Because they can manage that. Whereas they can’t manage a resurrection of Catholic identity. wow...so jews are more worried about catholic identity than white. this is flat wrong. jews successfully undermined catholicism because of DOCTRINES IT CANT CHANGE: namely the belief that all men are part of the human race, and need to come home and be part of the "mystical body" in our lord jesus christ. all men have "human dignity" and treating them except as individuals is IMMORAL. boom - what is needed to defend the white race, to prevent it from being genocided is called IMMORAL by jones's church. jews fear this? Hell, no. jews love this doctrine. the catholic church worked to protect jews under hitler. jews worked to destroy hitler. jews regard the nazis as the WORST WHITE MEN EVER because they figured out what jews were up to and how to stop them. meanwhile, the catholic church continues to hold the policy SICUT JUDAEIS NON. which means: you can prevent the jews from subverting your culture (in theory), but you must not molest them physically. they must be converted of their own free will. so, in other words, the jew is not a biological creature, it is a creature that needs converting to catholicism, just like all other men. and in practice, the jews have proven far abler to subvert christian culture than catholics have in preventing them. but to rational white men this looks like what it is: playing with a lethal threat. we should be SMASHING and CRUSHING the jews as a VITAL (life and death) threat to OUR RACE. not fiddling around with them. look where that fiddling around, that bio-denial, has led the church: vatican II. completely liberalization to the point of even denying jews murdered jesus when they were QUOTED TO THAT EFFECT IN THE GOD-DAMNED BIBLE! if they can subvert that plain meaning and claimed history, then there is NOTHING they cannot subvert. and they don't need to do much to the church anyway because it's already a UNIVERSALIST ORGAN: it takes all comers. 'catholic' MEANS 'general.' it's a brotherhood of man doctrine. that's already halfway to meet the jewish genocidal doctrine of wiping out whites via mongrelization called 'diversity.' how can jones not see this? how can anyone not see this? the jews needed to CRUSH nazism, as a racial pro-white doctrine. they need only SUBVERT catholicism. 2,000 years of ineffectuality were enough. Hitler invented what was needed. his lessons remain and still pertain, because the nature of the struggle, of the jew, and the objective way to counter him, remain exactly the same. jones is spitting in the wind on so many things, accounting for his unnaturally highly pitched voice, a la tim tebow, but when he says jews want to direct whites into racialism - bullshit emike. not even you believe that. catholic ID is watered down water. have you ever met any catholics? when you are told a man is a catholic, you dont know one damn thing about him. other than he is marginally more likely to be obsequious and servile than other men. that's the type of 'man' your catholic cult produces, after 2000 years of trying. WHITE MAN IDENTITY > CATHOLIC IDENTITY.


Nazism was itself a false identity. Really? All those tens of thousands of cheering, smiling, rising-birth-rating, successfully jew-mucked Germans were part of a "false" identity? And all those quotes from disinterested, even hostile outsiders about the remarkable New Germany were just lies? Does a "false identity" nearly defeat the entire world in a war? I mean, in Germany, you were Protestant or you were Catholic. Neither identity could do jack squat in preventing the jew-bolsheviks from communizing Germany. thus a new force had to be created. why couldn't your religious ID do the job? why did all those catholic-borns like Hitler imagine they needed a new ID? Can you explain that? You cannot. Your view must be, per your stupid and wrong belief, that Germans should have sat back and let jews murder tens of millions in continental Europe as in USSR, while christians should simply focus on converting them to the One True Faith. Face the facts, Jones: your religion can't defeat jews. It can't even define them correctly, let alone defend against them successfully.

And that’s the unfortunate situation after the Reformation and the Thirty Years War. And so what he [Hitler] tried to do was come up with some type of confection that was based on Wagner. No, he took note that the problem with the jew was racial, not religious. He was reality oriented, unlike you catholics. He conformed his views to reality, as outlined in Ch. 2 of Mein Kampf, whereas you conform the biological and historical reality of the jew to your christian religious ideology, which insists that the jew isn't a biological problem but a spiritual one. You are wrong. And obviously wrong. And Hitler was right. And still is right. And it was a pre-Christian identity. It doesn’t work, it fails. Does it fail? It had to be crushed. It succeeded so well it was spreading outside Germany. It solved the cultural problem within Germany. Everything that you lament in relation to jews destroying western culture with loose sex, the Nazi cleaned up. Are you sure you arent jealous and hateful and spiteful when you write about your betters? Since they succeeded in DOING SOMETHING that your 2,000-year-old institution has NEVER YET been able to do? Let me explain the difference to you in reality, peabo: Nazism has to be crushed. Catholicism can be laughed at.

And I’m saying this “white guy” stuff is going to fail. And we racialists are observing your catholicism HAS failed. It’s preposterous, it’s not going to work. Yours hasn't worked. Hitler's bio-based politics manifestly DID work. To go back to someone like Madison Grant? Madison Grant didn’t even believe in white guys. If Kevin [MacDonald] were in the room here, I’d try to bring this to his attention.

If you read Madison Grant's book, he says Europe is composed of three races. The Teutonic, the Mediterranean and the Alpine. And only the Teutonic race should be allowed into America. Well, he doesn’t believe in “white guys.” It has no roots. It’s got no basis in anything. Go look at a racial map of any city. You can see that people cluster with their own. That is "roots." That is "basis in reality." That is what jews try to destroy with forced housing. Why are you consistently trying to force reality to conform to your religious crankdom? White men care far more about living around other whites than they do about the religion of those other whites, and it's obvious why if you go to a colored area.

Then you get, “well, what are White guy values?” I once ran a cover of Fidelity Magazine, the title was White People and Their Values, and I put a picture of Mother Teresa and Joseph Stalin, side by side on the cover. It becomes an empty category that you can then fill with whatever you want to for purposes of political manipulation. Ok, I put up a picture of Mother Teresa and Robert Mugabe. Which is the real catholic? If race has no meaning, why do races cluster in prison, in school, on the street, in neighborhoods? Whereas that is not true of Catholic, Protestant and Jew. These are real ethnic identities in America. And I think that that’s what we have to get back to. If they were real, we wouldn't have to get back to them. The truth is what Rev. Lovejoy said: "they're really all pretty much the same." You want catholic to mean something, but...it doesn't. It doesn't mean a goddam thing. If I tell you a man is white, and I also tell you he's a Catholic - which conveys more and more reliable information about him? The fact that he's white. Do you deny that? If you do, you're wrong.

I’m saying, white is like goy. What is white? It’s not black. Leftist shit argument. Jones is more leftist than is first apparent. One normally expects pro-sex-deviance arguments to go hand in hand with socialist arguments, but Jones is pro-socialist, pro-normal. He's all about "solidarity" with the poor, which is the root of bad economics. Ie, taking from those who earn and giving to those who use drugs, do nothing, or are inherently genetically worthless. Catholicism is anti-evolutionary in this regard, which make it inherently pro-colored and anti-white. Add this to the other reasons it's anti-white - that it isn't specifically for one race but is for all races. It is universalist and socialist - and so just sitting there waiting for anti-white jews to coopt, subvert or just plain use. ... White isn't a real identity? that's bullshit. Go to prison, Jones, and ask the inmates if race is real. Go to school, and ask kids. Go out on the street. Go ask mexicans in so call if whites being catholic matters, or blacks sharing their christian faith. I don't know why Jones turns from reality when it comes to race, I guess that's how irrational religious faith perverts an otherwise good white man. As always, we most effectively hurt a man by putting his own words in front of him. Jones is conforming reality to his dogmas, which is straying from the path of logos and right reason.

If you read the thing I did on Slaughter of Cities. The Poles in Chicago in 1910, referred to Protestants as white people. These people didn’t know they were white. This was the interesting thing about that conflict when Martin Luther King shows up in Chicago in 1966. Why are they white? Because Martin Luther King's here, that’s why they’re white. Otherwise, they were Lithuanians. It was the Lithuanians who threw rocks at him. You know, when he got out of the car and got hit in the head with a rock. They were Lithuanians but they were being portrayed as white people. It's a false identity, it's going nowhere. You're not white, Pat. It’s not an identity. Jones seems to confuse his not wanting race to be an identity with the obvious reality that it is one. For the lowliest ghetto nigger and the highest catholic intellectual like Buchanan alike. Who's conforming truth to desire here, Jones? Is that not exactly what you're doing? If ethnic identity fades when MLK shows up, then by your logic that proves that ethnic ID doesn't exist. Rather, there are multiple identities, conflicting or nesting. This is obvious. Claiming that white identity doesn't exist can't survive real-world evidence AND YOU KNOW THIS. Your desire becomes the father of your dogma, but your dogma is so far apart from reality that it makes you sound "ridiculous" as you call the white identity side.

Identity in America is religious. Religious identity is ethnic identity in America. This is not my idea, it’s called the triple melting pot. It says after three generations, country of origin ceases to be your source of identity and religion becomes your source of identity. You can say that all you like but it doesn't jibe with what's actually going on out there. People are divided racially, and those divisions are meaning more over time, while religious difference hardly matter at all, since everyone from the pope to the Tennessee snake-shaker are liberals now.

So America is Protestant, Catholic, Jew. That’s what you are in America. And that’s the source of your identity. Jones seems to believe by repeatedly asserting something he can force it to be true; can force reality to bend. It is obvious he cannot. Do you think white prots and catholics around St. Louis give a damn about each other's religion or about the racial differences in the behavior of the marauding niggers? Nazism acknowledged a nested german and racial identity that proved attractive to catholics and protestants all over Europe - and continues to be attractive to people WORLDWIDE today despite facing the stiffest resistance of any group. And if you’re not that, you’re prey to pseudo-identity. And pseudo-identity are “NASCAR dads” which are consumer groups, they used to be called blue collar workers. Now they’re a consumer group called NASCAR dads. Harley Davidson riders are another pseudo-group that used to be blue collar workers. And I’m saying “white guy” is another pseudo-identity that is created to keep people enslaved. Yeah, the identity of "white guy" is keeping people "enslaved." This is both hysterical and hyperbolic. It's NOT identifying as a white man that is getting whites of any religion enslaved, and a return to that identity is the only path through which they can produce the kind of world worth white-living in.

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If ethnic identity fades when MLK shows up, then by your logic that proves that ethnic ID doesn't exist. Rather, there are multiple identities, conflicting or nesting.
That's right. It's not an either/or proposition. We all have numerous ties that bind. "Nesting" is a good word for it; I also liken it to concentric circles of belonging & allegiance: the innermost circle is the family, the next our close friends, then the ultimate extension of kin, our race - which is vastly more important than any religious circle that might be present.
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Everything Jones says about identity is Marxism's "false consciousness" with class switched to religion. Which is even less plausible.
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The author of "What Does It Mean to Be White?" examines the ways white people implode when they talk about race

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My hat is off to you Mr. Linder. I tried. I really tried, but my stomach revolted so completely on this one that I was unable to proceed past the first few paragraphs. I really tried, but any more and I would have hurled my cookies into my keyboard.

...perhaps another day.
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Jones makes a point though, without Blacks within our midst, we would probably identify less as globally White in America. America could have been a true multi-cultural nation with French, English, Irish, Germany, etc. areas of Whites. In other words a new Europe. Now, we've lost those old identities, mostly anyway, whether national or religious, and our default identity is now just generic White. Jones thinks that identity is false, but that's all most of us have left. If all the Blacks and non-Whites leave America, then we can go back to identifying as Irish-American or whatever, but we can't yet.
 
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Jones makes a point though, without Blacks within our midst, we would probably identify less as globally White in America. America could have been a true multi-cultural nation with French, English, Irish, Germany, etc. areas of Whites. In other words a new Europe. Now, we've lost those old identities, mostly anyway, whether national or religious, and our default identity is now just generic White. Jones thinks that identity is false, but that's all most of us have left. If all the Blacks and non-Whites leave America, then we can go back to identifying as Irish-American or whatever, but we can't yet.
The common denominator in White-created New World countries is race. The mixing of Whites from various European national origins made it inevitable.
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The common denominator in White-created New World countries is race. The mixing of Whites from various European national origins made it inevitable.
The total mixing of Whites from European national origins was not inevitable, in fact some of it was forced upon them by White flight to the suburbs. Blacks were used by yankees and Jews to break up non-yankee White areas, because they viewed them as a threat to their progressive republic.

E. Michael Jones discusses this very topic in this video.

 
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E. Michael Jones would almost certainly lie and say he has more in common with an illegal Mexican invader who is Catholic, or at least theist, than with me, a White atheist and English as First and Sole Language U.S. citizen. I'd like him to tell us all that he feels more kinship with non-White theists like Arab Muslims than with American citizen atheists like myself. That'd be another nice belly laugh to have.

Atheism, or at least a healthily skeptical agnosticism, should be the White man's "religion" because it conforms to reality. The majority of Christians are non-White. More than 2 billion people identify as Christian and there are less than 800 million non-Arab, non-Hispanic, non-Jewish Whites in the world.

Christ-Insanity's "Brothers and Sisters in Christ" mindset is drivel. A White Atheist and a White Christian clearly have more kinship than a White Catholic and a beaner Catholic.

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"Ethnicity" is a subset of race, an Irishman must be White to be Irish. It isn't possible for him to choose Irishness over Whiteness anymore than it's possible to chose Catholicism over Christianity.

Religion is a different axis, which can cut into both race and ethnicity. Given a choice between religion (Catholic v Protestant) and ethnicity (German v French), most White people will choose ethnicity, but some will choose religion. Given a choice between religion and race (White v Mestizo) nearly every White person will choose race. So will most colored people, Muslims being the most common exception.

Jones is trying to portray "Catholics" as an American ethnicity, but he's playing a game with it. He's putting Italians, Irishmen, Poles, and other White Catholics together as "ethnic Catholics" implying that the group is all White. His audience must be thinking of White people in order to accept his claim (which is even then a little dubious).

Jones does not, however, actually mean only the White nationalities; to do so would violate his religion's dogma. He really means Italians, Irish, Poles, Mexicans, Nigerians, and Filipinos all making up a single "identity". Arrayed against, presumably, East-Coast WASPs, Southern Baptists, and Blacks. It's so absurd it can't be put into plain language. And that's because his Church demands he accepts absurd principles.
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I know it doesn't have the numbers in this country, but why didn't silly billy talk about Lutheranism and Midwest Protestantism? Or does the fact that people like Martin Luther and John Calvin broke their monopoly and dealt a big time blow to their Christ-racket still stick in his craw 500 years later? As an atheist and former Lutheran, I'm pretty sure he has low "affinity" with me.

 
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That's right. It's not an either/or proposition. We all have numerous ties that bind. "Nesting" is a good word for it; I also liken it to concentric circles of belonging & allegiance: the innermost circle is the family, the next our close friends, then the ultimate extension of kin, our race - which is vastly more important than any religious circle that might be present.
People also change religions. They don't change their race. Race is so strong it outweighs other identifies without even having any real intellectual superstructure built over it. It's instinctive in most, to a pretty strong degree.
 
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My hat is off to you Mr. Linder. I tried. I really tried, but my stomach revolted so completely on this one that I was unable to proceed past the first few paragraphs. I really tried, but any more and I would have hurled my cookies into my keyboard.

...perhaps another day.
I spent all friday night into saturday trolling "white privilege" on twitter. Twitter is really the best news source, I think. Anything of note shows up there, and maybe first.

Little white dog syndrome is real and annoying. And certain professionals see diversity as a gravy train, and plenty of them are white. Inventing new little profitable ways to insult and attack whites, and then, thanks to our giant government, finding contracts to lecture and hector honest white men in the name of 'diversity' or 'sensitivity training' or something other bogosity.

Too many whites eagerly join in the attack on their own race. As professional diversity/deviance experts, or as amateur "i'm trying" "nice" people who want to be down with whatever the latest self-denigration is.
 
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Jones makes a point though, without Blacks within our midst, we would probably identify less as globally White in America. America could have been a true multi-cultural nation with French, English, Irish, Germany, etc. areas of Whites. In other words a new Europe. Now, we've lost those old identities, mostly anyway, whether national or religious, and our default identity is now just generic White. Jones thinks that identity is false, but that's all most of us have left. If all the Blacks and non-Whites leave America, then we can go back to identifying as Irish-American or whatever, but we can't yet.
America as a hybrid of basically NW Euro types is as valid as anything in Europe, no matter what anyone says. Why the fuck is Jones clown here if America sucks so bad. Go back to Italy and rub the pape's feet.
 
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The total mixing of Whites from European national origins was not inevitable, in fact some of it was forced upon them by White flight to the suburbs. Blacks were used by yankees and Jews to break up non-yankee White areas, because they viewed them as a threat to their progressive republic.

E. Michael Jones discusses this very topic in this video.

https://youtu.be/QLrrk_hF-aM
Ending of states rights via civil war, roads and communications technology, universal coercive public schooling, featuring increasingly ideo-controlled textbooking, the 100% Americans attacking German speakers and German culture - these and more tended against retaining ethnicity in USA.
 
Old April 21st, 2015 #38
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Too many whites eagerly join in the attack on their own race. As professional diversity/deviance experts, or as amateur "i'm trying" "nice" people who want to be down with whatever the latest self-denigration is.
Like fools who'll stick their noses in a public interracial argument whenever a White gets angry enough to get racial (even when it's in response to the usual scenario of a nig or spic "going there" first). They see an opportunity to show people how Righteous they are by scolding their fellow White.

Soundgarden singer Chris Cornell pulled that when he butted into an argument to defend a fag who'd been called a fag. He should've had his teeth knocked down his fucking throat.
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Default Who was Adolf Hitler / What is your opinion about this text???

Who was Adolf Hitler?
By Jost Turner

I found this text! So what is your opinion about this???

April 20th is the birthday of Adolf Hitler, who is certainly unequaled as the most vilified and maligned individual in recent history. The current hate campaign against Adolf Hitler is so all-pervasive that even some who claim to be his ardent admirers are so only because they perceive him in the Hollywood and Time-Life image-a slobbering race-hater screaming for White Power.

But Adolf Hitler was hardly a White Power leader or a race hater. He was far too great, his insight far too keen, and his missions far too important for him to be afflicted with the petty hatreds and vanities common to lesser men. He was too selfless, too self- disciplined, too responsible to have anything in common with the Hollywood, and hence the White Power image of today.

Adolf Hitler came from the common Folk, and as a young man he lived in poverty in the slums of Vienna. But he was consumed with the vision of a Golden Age, a healthy, beautiful, peaceful time when mankind lives in harmony with the immutable laws of Nature. His vision of the Golden Age was intensified when he listened to the music of Richard Wagner. Through the music of Wagner and his highly developed intuition, he recognized that the purpose of all mankind was higher evolution, and that this had been long forgotten and replaced by selfishness and materialism. He clearly saw the great need for a true Folk-community where his Folk could live in harmony with the laws of Nature and begin the process of higher evolution, and he felt duty bound to bring this about.

During World War One, Adolf Hitler served in the German Army with great honor. He was wounded, gassed, and awarded the Iron Cross 1st Class for heroism. After the war, he worked for the Army, investigating the various political parties which were springing up in opposition to the Marxist movement-which he knew was created by International Finance to enslave his Folk once and for all. He attended a meeting of the German Workers Party, and was pleasantly surprised by their comprehension of the covert goals of International Finance. He learned that this party was secretly sponsored by the Thule Gemeinschaft (Thule Society), an impressive underground organization of German academics and businessmen who, like Adolf Hitler, were interested in a Folk-community and the higher evolution of their Folk.

He joined the German Workers Party, which soon changed its name to the National Socialist German Workers Party. The party adopted the Thule Gemeinschaft's symbol, the Swastika, and in short order Adolf Hitler as the leader and primary spokesman. From every class and position of his Folk he built a disciplined and efficient political party, which also functioned as a Folk- movement. Party members were taught to look out after one another, and inter-party goods and services were provided whenever possible for those in need. Unlike the Marxists, who were bankrolled by International Finance, the National Socialist Party was financed by the meager, but freely given, contributions from the German Folk. In 13 years and 4 1/2 months, Adolf Hitler became the Chancellor of Germany. His popularity was such that he could not be denied political power. His popularity grew even more after he had come to power. Instead of persecuting his enemies, he converted them to supporters. He solved Germany's massive unemployment in short order, and then proceeded to build a new Germany of beauty, culture, and economic stability-much in the image of his vision of the Golden Age. Unlike other national leaders, dictators or democratic, he submitted all of his programs to the vote of the German Folk-and always received a staggering majority. The social and economic miracles of National Socialist Germany-which no honest investigator can deny-are a monument to his genius, insight, and leadership.

But the only way Adolf Hitler could transform Germany was to defy the dictates of International Finance by taking Germany off the international banking system and printing his own money, based not on gold, but on the productivity of the German worker. This was a deadly blow to the power of International Finance!

Using both the Marxist and Capitalist nations, both of which it controlled, International Finance soon retaliated by launching the most vicious and bloody war in history. In their fever to destroy Adolf Hitler and save their evil money monopoly, no method was too underhanded, no lie too loathsome. Women and children were butchered, raped, and burnt, and beautiful cities were turned into charred rubble. Even against such overwhelming odds, Adolf Hitler almost fought them to a standstill-which would have forced them to negotiate for peace. Unfortunately, the enemy within, egoism was silently at work. The German officer corps, many of whom could not tolerate the accomplishments and leadership of a mere corporal, betrayed him-and Germany-at a crucial hour. They treacherously aided the armies of International Finance in getting a toehold on the coast of France. After that, it wasn't long before the raping and looting hordes overran Germany and her few allies.

But for those who understand his real significance, Adolf Hitler remains an inspiration for the survival of this world. It is not laws, demonstrations, nor armed revolutions, which shape the future of the planet. No, the change must be within. As can be clearly seen in the successes of our enemies, more has been accomplished in the classrooms than from any law, demonstration, or revolution. Laws can be changed, demonstrations are forgotten, and revolutions become corrupt, but the inner awareness of mankind-or the lack of it-molds the future.

Adolf Hitler inspired the German Folk to an inner change. He inspired them to selflessness, to will, to responsibility-a Golden Age consciousness. He led them in building a great Folk- community for future generations of their Folk, and he began the process of higher evolution through intelligent breeding, education, and investigation of the Golden Age methods of higher evolution by self-effort. Even toward the end of the war, National Socialist expeditions were investigating these methods in the mountains of Northern India.

His vision of a Golden Age, when mankind is much higher evolved and lives in harmony with Nature, gives us an indication of the true nature of Adolf Hitler. To so uniquely realize the importance of higher evolution for this world of chaos clearly requires one whose realizations come from a much higher state of awareness. His lack of egoism, his dauntless will, his astounding intuition, his amazing intellectual comprehension of virtually any subject, his overriding kindness, and his dynamic magnetism to friend and foe alike all indicate an individual of higher evolution.

Adolf Hitler was indeed the forerunner of a new race- a more highly evolved race which will come and which will lead all mankind back into harmony with Nature. Only one of higher evolution could have ignored the temptations of ego, selfishness, and materialism - - the motivations of the Churchill's, Roosevelt's, and Stalin's of the world-and make the awesome accomplishments which he did.

Unfortunately, there are too many today who claim to be National Socialists, but who only demonstrate their Time-Life National Socialism with fantasy uniforms, White Power T-shirts, Swastika banners, childish telephone messages, and rag-sheets with crude racial slurs and poorly thought-out political and revolutionary fantasies. All that these movement maggots accomplish is to play right into the hands of their proclaimed enemies by further obscuring the true nature of National Socialism. This accomplishes nothing at all toward the higher evolution of mankind. Neither does this honor Adolf Hitler nor the millions who died trying to defend a place on this earth where higher evolution could flower en masse.

Adolf Hitler's great significance is that he proclaimed and demonstrated the principles on which we must base our communities in order to survive, prosper, and to evolve. The task of National Socialism today is to continue in his footsteps toward the higher evolution of mankind. We must begin realistically, without fanfare, starting at the family level and slowly building to the community level, developing and raising our own evolution while inspiring our friends and neighbors to follow. National Socialism is the path of responsibility, will, and self-discipline toward a new Golden Age.
 
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If the U.S. economy remains stagnant white nationalism and democratic socialism are likely to grow as political movements.

Already millennials nearly as likely to favor socialism as capitalism.

https://today.yougov.com/news/2015/0...ike-socialism/

If most Americans conclude that economic growth is no longer likely they may choose economic redistribution.

On the other hand, the white majority may decide to economically disenfranchise non whites.

The side that wins will be the side with the best leaders and the most compelling messages.
 
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