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Old March 5th, 2007 #61
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Default Joe Feild's response Part 1

Dear fellow white nationalists in our struggle,

The truth—it sets us free, and lies make us slaves.

It has come to my attention that in my absence from my activities online (I've been planning our "No More Wars for Israel" conference upcoming in March) some of the usual worms (one an agent for Morris Dees' SPLC named Tom Metzger, and another Bill White, who likes to play a Blues-Brothers Nazi when not attacking real white leaders with a keyboard) have come out of the woodwork again, trying now to derail this important conference that has the potential of being a major thorn in the side of the Jews. They have been dredging up some old and vicious slander slimed by the ADL years ago. It attempted then to silence my voice politically and destroy me financially, socially and quite literally physically, as you will learn. It didn't work then and


it won't now....but a few of you who don't know me as well as others have had a dirty little seed planted in your minds and this letter is for you.

My wife and the mother of my five children, Deirdre, has written her own defense of my honor. Just send her an email at [email protected] and hear her out. She dissects the illegal “legal charges” against me, arguing that even the charges themselves do not support the slander and libel that, after eleven long years in the cesspool, have been slung again by Zion and its slugs. She shows what DIDN'T happen.

My letter goes into what DID happen, and beyond that, what for 25 years this fellow mortal has accomplished and suffered for the Cause. After you have read both letters through, and they are hard-hitting and packed with information, you have heard it from the source, and shame on you if you passed judgment on me without hearing both sides. The Internet has tremendously hurt the Jews, but the Sanhedrin is also on it, striking back and as usual from the gutter.


Tuesday, February 20, 2007
Those who knew me well eleven years ago stood by me when those false charges were made, and they continue to stand with me as loyal comrades to this day.

It's amazing to me how some other people who call themselves "white nationalists" rub their hands with glee when one of their number is down or bleeding from an assault by the Jews. . . and, instead of lending their help and support, they act like a school of piranhas in a feeding frenzy in an attempt to finish the job started by the Jews.

Of course, every movement—political, religious or even in science—has its gossipers, egomaniacs and deliberate troublemakers. But I expect more from ours, and I must say that the very nicest people I have ever met have been in this Cause. Regardless of any of our character flaws, our children and unborn grandchildren do not deserve the hell the Jews have planned for them, that will only get worse, and I push on for our kids and for yours.

People such as Bill White and Tom Metzger are more full of nasty gossip than an aging, queer hairdresser who can’t get any more dates. And they color things just as phony. What kind of real man lives to gossip? Some gossips are deranged; others are obvious agents. Others merely act like agents. All feel self-important with their moralizing witch hunt, and others love passing on their “scoop,” although a story that was even untrue eleven years ago is hardly a scoop.

Whatever motivates their fevered little brains, they all in effect do the dirty work wanted by the Jews.

First, let me give those of you who don't know me a little background. This is by no means a complete bio, but it will give you some idea of why I am so hated by the usual suspects and those so-called "white nationalist" leaders who are actually working FOR the Jews and who are going all-out to destroy this conference. They are destroyers and saboteurs, and have an innate need to tear down what they themselves cannot create...but more on that aspect later....

I've been active politically since my college days, when I was an Opinion editor for the Hawk newspaper of Harbor College in Wilmington , California . My "baptism of fire" included JDL terrorist Irv Rubin visiting the college and threatening to break my fingers for writing articles questioning the Holo-Hoax and exposing Jewish international high finance, etc.

A Maoist-Communist group, INCAR (the International Committee Against Racism), headed by shrill Jewesses and their black and brown goons, came to the college to demonstrate against me and physically assaulted me. Finally I was fired for distributing fliers at a special “Holocaust Day" at the college set up by the administration to counter the effect of my articles. I took the case to Federal court and was reinstated. Shortly thereafter, the college paper which had been around for more than 40 years was suddenly declared insolvent and put out of business. They started it up again a couple of years later...when Yours Truly was safely out of the picture.

After college I spent a couple of years (in youthful reaction) with the local "Nazis" in L.A. and got involved with another legal case...this one against Alpine Village in Torrance , California . Four of us went to dinner with small dime-sized Swastika lapel pins on our lapels and were asked to leave by a black maitre d'. We replied that the Jewish gentleman across the room was wearing a Star of David that offended us...why not ask him to take it off or leave? Well, one thing led to another and we were arrested for "trespassing" and spent the night in jail. We went to the local ACLU and filed a discrimination case against the Alpine Village Corporation based on a California law called the Unruh Civil Rights Act which banned discrimination based on the wearing of political symbols.

Alpine Village lost their insurance coverage over the case...which cost them quite a bit of money, and their legal council advised them to settle out of court...which they did. We won and this was the second time the Jews were in an apoplexy over a legal victory in which I was involved.

I continued my political activism, but chose a more realistic approach. I joined the third-party movement and became leader of the Los Angeles California branch of the Populist Party. Later, I was elected to the National Council of the Populist Party.

We held monthly meetings in Pasadena, California and got involved heavily in the anti-illegal alien movement. We organized several large demonstrations at the U.S. / Mexican border--and in the early 1990s, together with Hungarian-American George Kadar, we organized a huge and successful rally called "American Spring at the Border."

In 1992, after I ran for State Assembly in the 54th district as an American Independent Party candidate, we decided to restart our monthly meeting/discussion group and call it the Nationalist Forum. In 1994 I ran for U.S. Congress in the 36th District of California against incumbent Jane Harman. I was able to buy some TV time for ads locally and we ran a pretty effective campaign.

In a debate with Harman aired on local cable television and sponsored by the League of Women Voters, I mopped up the floor with her and after the debate she was visibly shaken. Needless to say, I didn't win...being a third party candidate, and also because of the fact that the media decided to give me the "silent treatment" the second time around. (In my Assembly run they had given me the "evil Nazi" treatment, but bad publicity is better than no publicity!)

During the congressional run, right after the above mentioned debate, I attracted the attention of some high level Republican party people -- basically Buchanan types-- who told me they had contacts with money who would be eager to finance my campaign if I were to run again. I filed that in the back of my head and I will say it was mighty tempting.

My next project was the Nationalist Forum TV show that I co-hosted with a white-nationalist lawyer. We did around 30 shows before the money ran out. The shows ran weekly on small cost-effective TV stations in the South and Midwest .

I did a tour of the cities where the show ran with Pastor Thom Robb, and we held rallies and other events advertising the show. Guests included Ernst Zundel, Ted Gunderson, State Senator Don Rogers, and Michael Collins Piper.

In early 1996 I was still debating whether or not to make another congressional run...this time as a Republican. Meanwhile, I decided to get involved with Buchanan's 1996 presidential run and started “tabling” at events and different locations locally, handing out flyers and taking the names of potential volunteers for canvassing, phone banks, yard signs, etc.

We set up literature tables usually in front of supermarkets and malls; and I found that a lot of people in the area still remembered me from my last two campaigns...many friendly and wanting to shake my hand...but also the occasional strident leftist or Jew would come up and tell me how 90 of their relatives were turned into lampshades by Hitler and how I should be tortured and slowly killed, etc.

I just smiled at them and told them how I lost a grandfather at Auschwitz too -- too much Schnapps before guard-tower duty.

They didn't find that amusing ...but I did.

In retrospect I can think of only one incident during this time (at the Del Amo Mall in Torrance, CA) that may or may not have something to do with the filth the ADL and local politicos tried to destroy me with...and it happened on a day when I had more than one friendly-kike encounter like the one described above. Two very attractive and provocatively-dressed young ladies who could have been anywhere from 15 to early 20's approached my table and began flirting with me. I have to admit I was flattered and, the male ego being what it is, I flirted right back.

They then asked me for my phone number, upon which I replied that as beautiful as they were I was a happily married man with a family, but I did give them some political literature with my P.O box number on it and told them they could contact me if they wanted to volunteer on phone banks and precinct walking...and that was that.

Whether or not this was the beginning of my set up I'll never know. A few weeks later, the police came to my home with guns drawn and pointed through my living room window at me, my wife and family. I asked them what it was all about, but no answers were forthcoming. I was handcuffed, thrown in the back of a squad car and hauled off to the police station. After what seemed to be hours, I was brought into a small room and introduced to a cop who told me he worked for the Intelligence Division of the L.A.P.D. By now, I was informed of the "case" against me. I supposedly had asked some young girls if they wanted to be in a "movie" and given them a phone number (which I was told was “phony" and in no way associated with me or any "movie"!) and was supposed, also, to have asked a girl if she wanted to "invest her money."

For allegedly having done this, I was to be charged with violating §647.6 of the California Penal code...."Child Annoyance"...a misdemeanor. This "law" is insidious, vague and overly broad.... the perfect vehicle to slander and destroy the reputation of someone the Jews and their lackeys want "out of the picture." It is based on anti-male hysteria and caters to our judaized and feminized society....

Anyone looking into this law will see that under its broad definition, a boy of 18 could conceivably be thrown in jail for whistling at a girl a day or two away from her 18th birthday.

The L.A.P.D. intelligence cop then told me with a sickening smile that he wanted to "help" me. I asked how he proposed giving me “help." He proceeded to brazenly tell me that he could determine where this case "went" if I would only cooperate with him. My "cooperating" meant "helping him do his job." When I asked him what he meant by that, his answer told me just what the whole case was about.

'You've been around radical politics for a long time...ran for office, have a lot of supporters, some right here in the South Bay....letting us have a look at your mailing lists could go a long way toward clearing this whole thing up'......

I told him to go to hell and that I would not give in to his blackmail. He then said "You're so used to being in the driver's seat...but you have to understand that you're no longer in the driver's seat...WE'RE in the driver's seat now!'

I refused to talk to the bastard any longer and was returned to a holding cell. A couple of hours later I was released on my own recognizance and told they were still "investigating."

Around a week or two later, the goons were back at my front door again to put on a show for the neighborhood and further humiliate me. I was taken down to the station house and officially charged with "annoyance of minors." It was then that a series of articles were written in the Torrance Daily Breeze.

The Daily Breeze had a long history with me. They wrote the articles about what a terrible "Holocaust denier" I was when I was in college, about how dangerous and hateful I was, a menace to the community (when we sued the Alpine Village), and what a nasty Nazi I was when I ran for office. Naturally, they had a field-day with this.

One article claimed they found "pornography" in my car. The "pornography" consisted of two videos:

One was "Pre-War German Featurettes" (vintage footage of Hitler campaigning for office, etc.).

The other video was "The Best of Nationalist Forum" a 2-hour video of four of our best talk shows. I suppose this is deemed "political pornography" by the usual suspects. This is just a taste of the "accurate" reporting you can expect from our "free press." I was fair game...and they were going to take me down... That much was all too obvious.

At this juncture in my life, I was probably more vulnerable than ever before...and they KNEW it. I was in-between jobs, my wife was pregnant and now THIS lovely situation. I didn't know ANY lawyers and was desperate for one who would do a good job but not charge me an arm and a leg. A friend of mine put me in contact with a lawyer who was quite a distance out of town, but he assured me he was good. Needless to say, he was wrong.

We put in numerous court appearances, and all along I was assured (and quite frankly, EXPECTED) this would be dropped. After all, I kept telling myself, “This is bogus.... and even if it WERE true...how could such a thing with no evidence make it to trial?” Asking someone to be in a non-existent "movie" and giving out phone numbers the cops said led to "nowhere?"

What planet was I on?? Not once was I charged with laying one finger on anyone. There WAS no "sex"....NO “pornography"...NOTHING. The cops as much as told me this verbatim, so how far could this crap go? I was about to find out the consequences of not cooperating with my L.A.P.D. Intelligence "friend" who wanted to "help" me.

My lawyer had a hell of a time in the “discovery” process and bits and pieces were turned over to him sporadically. Then one day he told me we needed to meet at his office and discuss the case. When I arrived, he told me the cops claimed there were several girls who identified me in a six-pack of photos with other individuals ---none of whom resembled me at all -- and that they had identified my car...which the cops had photographed and hauled away for a period of a week. NOTHING of this ever came up before. It was obvious to me that this whole set-up was carefully planned, complete with MANUFACTURED "victims" and that these bastards were attempting to completely destroy me.

Financially I really could not afford to go to trial, and the lawyer I had kept suggesting I plead "no contest." His reasoning was that the charge was silly and there would most definitely be no jail involved, but that, if dragged out, the press would continue to have a field day during trial, completely trashing my name and making any future run for office impossible. He further told me he was convinced that the alleged victims were part of the whole thing and that they would lie through their teeth and make up all kinds of vile and lurid trash, further embarrassing and humiliating me and my family.

The clincher was his telling me that if I did choose a trial and lost, I would almost certainly end up in jail and my life would be in peril. He told me he thought that this was what the people who were doing this really wanted. All of this was discussed in the presence of my wife who was already suffering complications with her pregnancy and was under terrible stress.

I decided to go for the "no contest” plea, against my better judgment and against my code of no surrender, hoping that I had saved my unborn child and avoided further public humiliation. What's more, I was not willing to risk my life--because of who I was and the nature of the charges--by going to jail. I couldn't trust some Neanderthal simian inmate to distinguish between "annoyance" vs. actual molestation.

The one crime you do not want to be known for in prison is molestation; many inmates were molested as kids. So think about my dilemma before you judge, lest ye be judged.

This turned out to be the worst mistake of my entire life and for more than one reason.
When the actual sentencing came out, I was aghast -- 1 year in county jail (the maximum allowed for a misdemeanor). Even the reporter for the Daily Breeze who had been exaggerating the story for months stated in an article after the sentencing that the punishment seemed “excessive” and “draconian.”

I almost keeled over in court when I heard this, and my wife Deirdre almost got thrown in jail for telling the judge what she thought of him and his decision. (Years later, his teenage son was found dead of a drug overdose.... I like to think of it as bad karma.)
The attorney simply shrugged it off and told me he had done all he could for me....typical.

Immediately we began looking for another attorney to help me withdraw my plea and go to trial. We found Lawyer Number Two in the South Bay area of LA, who specialized in this type of case and even filled in as a judge from time to time. He bragged to us in his offices of how many REAL perverts he had gotten off COMPLETELY...... But in the end he couldn't...and/or wouldn't.... do anything for a man accused of SAYING something... NOT accused of exposing himself, NOT accused of rape, NOT accused of touching a hair on anyone's head.

The day I surrendered to the court he accompanied me back to the detention area and I asked him if there was ANYTHING he could do to stop this--if there was a possibility I could remain free on bond until my appeal was heard. The "expert" on "these kinds of cases" looked me square in the eye and said ..."No."

After serving more than 90 days in L.A. County jail (thankfully in solitary confinement due to the efforts of my wife), I found out he was a damned liar. My wife and my elderly mother spared no time in trying to find a decent lawyer who would actually help me instead of screw me and throw me to the wolves...and they finally found one of the few decent lawyers I ever met.

The irony was that this lawyer, who exclusively did appeals, was a dyed-in-the-wool leftist who was involved with Daniel Ellsberg and the anti-war movement in the 60's. It was the first time I realized how much a leftist and someone who always thought of himself as a 'right-winger' could have in common, because this guy hated and distrusted the government. When I told him my story he immediately said "You've been targeted, Joe. They want you dead."

That first meeting was after my release. At my wife's initial consultation with him just before Christmas, she learned that I did NOT have to spend ONE DAY in jail. People appealing misdemeanor charges have an AUTOMATIC right to be free on bail pending appeal. The "expert" we hired lied to me that day...and I spent 3 months in a filthy hell-hole because of it.

During the appeal process which lasted a good two-years plus, a strange but providential thing happened. I mentioned earlier that my first attorney had a hell of a time getting complete discovery (all documents and reports pertaining to the case) and my appeals lawyer also said there seemed to be a lot missing from the file.

One day when making an appearance in court without me he asked to look at the case file as he didn't have the defense copy handy.

The court clerk handed him the file and, going through it, he found something that was most DEFINITELY missing from our copy of the file. And for well over a year we had had no idea that this pivotal information existed--and we weren't meant to ever find out either. My attorney asked the clerk to make a copy of the new information, which she did, and he gave me a call as soon as he arrived back at his office.

What had been found were the transcripts of an ex-parte meeting early on in the case between the judge, prosecutors and police. Neither I nor my attorney at the time was informed of this meeting, for obvious reasons. The transcript showed absolutely NO discussion of the charges, alleged "victims" etc. The ENTIRE meeting was to inform the judge of my political background, my "racism," “anti-Semitism" and "neo-Nazi" background. In other words, prejudicing the case against me from the beginning and keeping the fact they were doing it a secret from me and my attorney.

I could go on to write a book the size of "War and Peace" about all of the subsequent events. We lost our first appeal based on my original attorney's complete INCOMPETENCE, but we went on to win in the second phase of the appeal that went before a three-judge panel.

Before going any further I will state categorically that my ONLY guilt in this matter was making a stupid decision by agreeing to plead nolo contendre. This was done for the reasons stated above...plus my belief in the likelihood of getting a jury full of non-Whites and Jews who would condemn me without a second thought. What I was GUILTY of was following my lawyer's counsel.


As for the charges themselves....they were trumped up and silly to begin with. Take the time to analyze them:

IF I had been guilty or suspected of "molesting" a child, WHY was I NOT charged with this?
 
Old March 5th, 2007 #62
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IF I had touched ONE HAIR on the head of an underage girl, WHY was I, of all people, NOT charged with at least statutory rape?


IF I had been a "child pornographer" WHY was I NOT charged as such?

Instead, I was charged with violating a law that (as I stated earlier) sure looks like a catch-all umbrella “feminist-friendly" statute (647.6..."Child Annoyance"), a law to use against anyone the powers-that-be want to destroy.

Earlier I stated that this "law" could be used against any man for as much as whistling at a girl of 17 in a bikini. Lest you think I exaggerate, there was one, and only one case that came to my attention (years after my own ordeal) where someone was charged with violating the exact same law. It was reported extensively (and a lot more fairly, since the alleged perpetrator wasn't a "Nazi") in the Torrance CA "Daily Breeze," and occurred within the last three years.

The name of the man escapes me, but this case can be looked up quite easily. The man was a teacher at a local high school and was fed up with the way some girls would come to class with everything "hanging out." One morning one of the more egregious violators showed up wearing a top with no bra underneath and was quite happy to be bouncing all over the place. The teacher told her she needed to come to school dressed more appropriately and told her he could 'see her nipples.' Next thing you know, the man was charged with violating 647.6--"annoying a child."

This is a statute designed NOT to deal with criminal acts of perversion, rape, 'molestation," etc., but to take down men deemed politically incorrect and establish some kind of Orwellian definition of what a "sex crime" is.

I believe that anyone who commits rape, molests a child, and/or is involved in producing child porn, etc. should be dealt with harshly. I have children of my own, and I don't take child molestation lightly. HOWEVER, there is a world of difference between true sex crimes and a man who makes a pass at or gets 'fresh' with a girl who, though under the age of 18 looks like, acts and dresses like the late Anna Nicole Smith

Imagine being tried for telling a girl you can see her nipples coming through her almost non-existent shirt. The parents had no problem with her running around dressed like slut, but the man who called her on it had his life put on the line...and if convicted could have gone to jail and been beaten to death....all because he "annoyed" the girl.


THIS is insane...it has nothing to do with justice and everything to do with social engineering, terrorizing citizens and creating "criminals" out of thin air -- in short it's all about control.

Now that I've gone through this whole sordid story for the second time in 11 years, it's time to look at the individuals who have dredged it all up and look at their motives......


Tom Metzger has seldom had anything good to say about any EFFECTIVE Movement leader, and in fact has said and done things to sabotage and destroy those who have been, and are far more effective in getting our message out to the mainstream.

Years ago I used to attend his meetings and we had a somewhat loose association. I took him at face value and assumed he was fighting for the same cause; and at that time, perhaps he was.

But one thing that struck me about him, even then, was that he seemed to be extremely arrogant and full of himself. He could also be very jealous and petty. If there was anything "hateful" about him it certainly wasn't toward the Jews or other races; it was directed exclusively toward other leaders who cast a shadow on his much-craved limelight.

Conversely, his highest praises were always reserved for those who were either dead or in jail: Bob Mathews, Gordon Kahl, Frank Silva, etc.


This is NOT to say those men don't deserve our respect and honor...but it goes to show what makes a small man with a huge ego like Metzger tick. The dead and imprisoned can't compete and take attention away from "Terrible Tommy," but those who did compete with the toupéed prima-donna were always singled out for his venom.

I remember one time attending a barbecue at his picnic grounds near San Diego back in the early '80's a week or two after I held a press conference in L.A., one that took away from some event he was holding at the same time in San Diego. Late that night after a few drinks, he called me aside and said “Now listen, Fields...I RUN California ...." and went on to complain that I needed to 'work with him,' etc.

I was friendly and polite, but left shaking my head. He had a real "Don Corleone" complex...and probably still does. This would be laughable in most cases but this "little Caesar" is NOT funny.

I had always put it down to his envy and hatred for those who were his betters, but then there's the little Morris Dees connection I'll get to shortly.

Among the victims of Tom Metzger's smears is David Duke. When Duke was running 24/7 against the whole Establishment for governor of Louisiana, Metzger went out of his way to give the press a story about Duke's alleged "cocaine use." I have no knowledge as to whether or not this is true, but imagine someone who claims to be a champion for the white race ACTIVELY trying to shoot down, in the moment of battle, the candidacy of another man (whatever his human weaknesses) whom the Jews regarded as their greatest threat? Just WHO is this Metzger working for and which side is he on?

Metzger also attacked and called for the assassination of Dr. Edward Fields and actually posted the then home address of Willis and Elisabeth Carto on the Internet, hoping some JDL member or other terrorist would fire-bomb or kill them.

THIS is a "Movement leader?"

The three individuals mentioned above have done far more for our collective Cause by work than a million Metzgers could ever HOPE to do.

Metzger is, all things considered, a destructive force within the movement. From amongst the ranks of his former associates come countless informers, agents and turn-coats. Do a Google on such Metzger acclaimed stalwarts as Greg Withrow and T.J. Leyden and tell me what you come up with. There are many more where they came from.

Worse yet, Metzger has sacrificed his own supporters and followers on the altar of his over-blown ego. Once he totally lost the case brought against him by Morris Dees he should have declared bankruptcy and folded.

Instead, he cut a sweetheart deal with the despicable Morris Seligman Dees—anything to stay in “business”--allowing him to continue operating with the proviso that Dees got to open his mail and split the income from Metzger's supporters 50/50.

Not a WORD from Metzger warning his followers. And don't forget, Dees was able to copy down all those names and addresses. Shouldn’t this be called “treason”?

Yours truly went to a Third World jail in L.A. because I WOULDN'T turn over ONE NAME to the enemy.

I understand Metzger is now conducting his Internet radio program from the inside of a container somewhere in Warsaw , Indiana .

Class act, Tom! In between belts of gin, keep telling yourself what a "lone-wolf warrior" you are. Your handful of young, naive skinheads will continue to worship you until they grow up and realize what you really are...a pathetic, jealous, and bitter little man with a hatred for true leaders and a need to tear down what you yourself cannot do.

I'm sure that when your controllers at SPLC learned of our conference, they wasted no time calling you to start your smear campaign. And being the kind of person you are, you were only too happy to cause rival comrades misery.

I am convinced from my personal knowledge and experience that Tom Metzger was the original source for the current Internet campaign, and his apparent friend and sycophant Bill White picked up where Metzger left off and really ran with the ball...to the point of so exaggerating the story so that I didn't even recognize it: e.g.:

* He claims I was charged with "raping little girls “and recording it for my viewing pleasure;

* said I served a "year in Prison";

* said I "accused Metzger and Zundel [?!?] of "setting me up"

* said I was a "fundraiser for David Duke"

* said our Nationalist Forum folded, but was being "resurrected by Duke, Black and Kelso." etc.

So much B.S., so little time. One hardly knows where to begin, but I'll attempt it.

1. The charges were dealt with extensively above...needless to say White and/or Metzger feel the need to exaggerate the charges to achieve the desired result. Problem is the facts can be easily checked out.

2. I did 90 days, not a year—90 days that I was lied into serving. I never had to serve ANY time.

3. I NEVER said a thing about either Metzger or Zundel "setting me up." I said Metzger was using this as an opportunity to attack me because of his jealousy, and his desire to see all of his competition wiped out. He was gleeful at my circumstances and couldn't wait to attack me when I was down...for all of the reasons stated above.

4. As for Ernst Zundel, we can all agree on his greatness, especially now. But we all have our human sides, and in a completely unrelated event several years after my arrest, I wrote an article for the then Spotlight newspaper criticizing him for what I believed to be unfair business practices vis à vis Florentine Rost Von Tonningen. She is the elderly widow of the Dutch National Socialist leader Meinoud Von Toningen, who was torture-murdered after the war by the communists.

The details are unimportant at this time, but suffice it to say Mr. Zundel was not happy with the article and retaliated by bringing up the 1996 smear. I have since reconciled and forgotten any differences I may have had with Ernst Zundel...and I NEVER accused him of being behind "setting me up." That was ZOG.

5. I was NEVER a fundraiser for David Duke.

6. I first met Jaime Kelso back in 2004 at David Duke's "Homecoming" conference in New Orleans and have seen him twice since. I know Don Black and respect his work, but he and Kelso over in Florida aren't in "cahoots" with me in "resurrecting” anything in California .

7. The Nationalist Forum NEVER folded. I went to jail in October of 1996 and got out just before Christmas of that same year. The following February, without missing a beat, we went right back to having monthly meetings, some of which were quite large. There have always been many patriots in Southern Cal., and I have been busy with them for years.

In August of 1999 we had a very large meeting for Gerhard Lauck in Orange County California upon his release from the German gulag for thought crimes. We had over 200 people in attendance and the meeting was covered by the Lincoln , Nebraska affiliate of ABC News. (Lauck was based up there.) We have the meeting on video. We refused to let the ADL and their government stooges slow us down one bit.

Metzger knows this and it must gall him. He and the Jews both thought Joe Fields was "taken out"--that he would slink off to some corner, lick his (undeserved) wounds and assume the fetal position. That did not happen THEN, and it sure as HELL is not going to happen now.

As to Mr. William A. White, I could have set “Bill” straight on these matters had he contacted me BEFORE posting but he chose not to.

I recall talking to Bill White briefly in the lobby of a hotel where we were both attending a conference back in 2003. I don't remember much about him, as he didn't make much of an impression. I have never had any dealings with him and considered him to be pretty much a non-entity; in other words he wasn't even on my radar before he launched his vicious and unprovoked attack.

Once I was informed of this I visited both his website and his forum and was not surprised to find another self-absorbed wanna-be "Fuehrer" who still dresses up in WWII costumes and calls himself "Commander."

BTW, “Commander George Lincoln Rockwell” was called that because he WAS a commander in the United States Navy, and a decorated combat vet in two wars. Hey, Bill, how did YOU become a “commander”?

For a white man, Bill White also seems to have a filthy mind and a garbage mouth that is in complete harmony with the gutter image the Jews want a “Neo-Nazi” to have—the ranting, evil clown.

It reminds me of the time I was on a panel on the "Geraldo" show years ago that consisted of both white and black nationalists.

There were about three of us; we spoke well and looked normal and in fact were making common cause, based on the facts, with our Black counter-parts against the government and the Jewish New World Order.

Our microphones were suddenly shut off in mid-statement. A handful of young foul-mouthed idiots screaming "Nigger!", decked out in cartoon Klan regalia, were focused on by Geraldo and the studio cameramen.

White is cut from the same clownish cloth, and if one listens to his live show (available on his website) one will hear White and his sidekick trash others in the movement and pepper their comments with “F--- this” and “F--- that.” Does he do this to help--or to hurt--the Cause?


There's also his classy little article found at the top of the left-hand margin on his home page entitled "Whites have bigger c---s than blacks." You see where this strange little man’s mind is. It reminds me of all the sexually filthy hate mail that Jews send to really effective white activists, reflecting their own obsession with the animal side of sex.

Perhaps if we dug deep enough into William White's life we would find a pot calling the kettle black.

I understand Mr. White has an extensive juvenile arrest record, including assaulting a cop at age 19. Also, he has been sued in Roanoke as a slum-lord, having chosen to invest his money into the ghetto. All this would be more understandable if his name were Weiss, not White.

The fact that he grew up in a predominantly Jewish community, Bethesda , Maryland and considered himself a communist before "converting" to National Socialism is also interesting. http://judicial-inc.biz/Bill_White.htm

Wikipedia is not always reliable, but judge for yourself by entering


“Bill White”and “Neo-Nazi' and “Wikipedia”


in to a search engine. I particularly enjoyed the logo of the United Anarchist party he founded at his Jewish-dominated high school, the one with the big black hand.

Apparently, Mr. White had a very bizarre relationship with a young "skinhead" girl and posted all of his "girl problems" on his website forums. She left him, and like most graduates of Tom Metzger's circle (yes, back to Tom), joined the other side: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erica_Hardwick

Basically, all of the filth that has been posted in various forums about me in the last two weeks originates with these two individuals, Metzger and White, and those who've "run with the ball" have never met me or known the background of this case.

If they did they would NOT have helped the ADL, the SPLC and others who want to destroy our Cause and any leaders who pose a real threat. To the old adage "Strike the shepherd and the sheep will scatter" can be added ""Destroy the reputation of the shepherd, and the sheep will stupidly finish the job you started, -- before wandering off to the wolves in the forest!”

There is a pattern developing here, comrades, and you should all see the writing on the wall.

Phony "Morals Charges" can be used against anyone ... even YOU. And if Metzger and White, who are acting (either knowingly or not) against this Cause are given credence, and those in the rank-and-file allow themselves to be swept up in this hysteria, the ADL doesn't have to lift a FINGER--just yell “child-molester" every few months and watch the sheep go B-A-A-AH and scatter to the wind. Kind of reminds you of the old Twilight Zone episode "The Monsters are Due On Maple Street ."

I know the Kevin Strom “morals charge' has been on people's minds. I don't really know Kevin Strom, aside from having met him briefly at a couple of functions over the years, and I hold no brief for him one way or the other in the feud between the two National Alliance factions. I am not even fully aware of the charges against him, except that the police allegedly found some dirty pictures on his computer.

Knowing what the Jews and the government are capable of I believe Strom should be given the benefit of the doubt. I might add that his writings have always been of a high class inconsistent with the charges brought against him; in strong contrast to the vulgar garbage put out by the likes of Metzger and White.


And what's more, if the only charge against him is that he had dirty pictures on his computer (which could have been SENT directly to the registry of his hard drive via viruses, etc.) then there is NO case against him, except in Big Brother world. Convictions for pictures on the hard drive are already being overturned. In one case, an “anti-child porno” site itself sneaked child porno pictures onto people's computers!

In any case, to use computer language, our “default setting” in the Cause should be this:

Any “morals charge”' by ZOG against one of us is automatically a LIE until PROVEN otherwise. But how can a government that threatens, and tortures openly, and lies 24/7 about literally everything, be trusted with ANY of its “proof??


People, you need to see through this for what it is....the enemy using our natural instincts of right and wrong and warping them, getting us on our high horse and charging off to fight their battles against our own, just as the neo-con Jews use "conservative" "patriotism" to marshall the American sheeple against anti-Zionist Muslims, etc.

Any articles in the jewspapers or any “prosecutor versions” of what any real DOER in our Cause supposedly did in private should be treated automatically with contempt.


These are the villains that brought us “The Holocaust," the "War on Terror," "hate Crimes” (and oh, yeah, for us folks over 40, remember the famous War on Poverty and the War on Drugs?). So what on earth makes you think they tell the truth when they’re character-assassinating one of your leaders?

WHY the logical disconnect?

MARK MY WORDS......this pseudo-molestation scam will be the new preferred weapon used against our movement and our leaders. Why? Because molestation is a sickening and outrageous crime, and "hypes up" the public the most. People just see red when they hear of it. There is no instinct stronger than protection of the next generation. Just the thought of molestation causes such revulsion that for decades people wouldn't even talk about it in polite society.

And wouldn’t they love to throw us all in prison and spread the word that we were sentenced for molesting innocent little kids? It's a great way to get others to murder us, just as the Jews got the Romans to kill the early Christians for them.

if we don't take a stand NOW, they will continue to pick us off, one by one, on fake morals charges while the rest of us abandon our brothers under attack.

Of course, sicko sex is really THEIR Jewish neo-con specialty; look at Abu Ghraib prison and the sex pyramids, the men forced to bare their genitals to laughing hillbilly women, and worse horrors for mind and body.

The Enemy already equates "hate sites" with "porn" when they sell their “protective' website filters....and now Dees, White and Metzger are beginning their special anti-activist witch-hunt, designed to destroy our legitimate and effective leaders. Just visit VNN, owned 50% by movement turncoat Glenn Miller, and White's forums if you have a strong stomach for slop.

I have been wronged by ZOG and now again by not only Metzger and White but also by anonymous cyber-cowards who never stuck their necks out for ANYTHING in their lives. They bravely post under their fierce-sounding pseudonyms their amazing “knowledge” about how not only Strom and I are "pedophiles" but how they should additionally suspect David Duke, Don Black, Ed Fields, etc.

It appears that what triggers them repeating the Jews' charge of “child molester” is to have done good for our Cause and damage to our Enemy.

So first send me YOUR resumes, accusers, and then I'll hear what YOU so amazingly know about MY private life. So far, all you really can possibly know is that I and my wife Deirdre, a white South African and committed Christian, have raised white children while many accusers were doing clickety-clack on their keyboards and hitting “send.” And I went to jail to save a mailing list that may have had YOUR name on it.

It has ALWAYS been a tactic of the Jews and their sorry followers to impute THEIR filthy imaginations onto honorable people. It's called "projection." Carl Jung, the great German-Swiss psychologist, realized this about Jews and broke over this with the Jew psychoanalyst Siegmund Freud.

As for me, I have a sexual outlet; it's called matrimony; and fulfillment; it's called the Cause.

I have been in this movement approaching 25 years now. The brief bio I gave at the beginning of this article doesn't even scratch the surface of what I and my wife have done and have gone through for our common struggle.


My wife Deirdre is an activist in her own right and writes prolifically on the plight of whites in her native South Africa . We are loving parents and if there were ANY truth to the stories of filth and slander heaped on me she would have left me long ago.

Why is this rotten garbage from eleven years ago being popped into the microwave and re-nuked now? The reason is obvious. Our "No More Wars for Israel " Conference was too much. An October 2006 Zogby poll said that 39% of Americans now believe that Israel got us into the Iraq war and is promoting the assault on the people of Iran . After decades in this Cause, finally we see our people finally seeing the light. An MSNBC-NY Times poll showed that only 16% believe the government’s version of 9/11. We, especially through the Internet, a great invention of white genius, are finally gaining traction.


lOctober 23, 2006
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lhttp://www.whitecivilrights.com/are-americans-finally-waking-up_612.html
lAre Americans Finally Waking Up?
by Ian Mosley
According to a CNI news article “A new poll commissioned by the Council for the National Interest Foundation shows that a significant number of Americans are wary of the power of the Israel lobby, and believe it is behind the invasion of Iraq and the current belligerent tone of the White House and Congress toward Iran . The poll, which was carried out by Zogby International, reveals that 39% of the American public agree or somewhat agree that ‘the work of the Israel lobby on Congress and the Bush administration has been a key factor for going to war in Iraq and now confronting Iran.’ However, a similar number, 40%, ’strongly disagreed’ or ’somewhat disagreed’ with this position. Some 20% of the public, or more than one in five, were not sure.”
Almost forty per cent of Americans are willing to go ON RECORD as opposing Israel and the Jews!! That’s definitely news! The same article notes “The poll suggests that the espionage charges against two employees of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) and the publicity given to a new study of the power of the Israel lobby by two mainstream academic professors has had an affect on people’s awareness of the lobby.” (more…)
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So of course the Jews are on the Internet too, and spewing their venom there, less against the facts, where they can only lose, and more against the activists themselves, where they hope they might still win—in the gutter, appealing not to the love of truth but to the greed for gossip.

As Professor Robert Faurisson predicted several years ago, times will become very good for revisionism, but tough for revisionists.

The traditional enemy of truth had to trot out something, given the current atmosphere against the war and the fact that more and more people are waking up to the fact that Israel is dictating our war policy. Any such gathering of quality, hard-hitting speakers from the alternative news media, activism and academia--one that WILL be broadcast live on the Internet and available long after on DVDs--could NOT be allowed to go on unhindered.

The Dees/Metzger/White/Defamation League smear campaign has now gone into full swing, complete with trash phone calls to our listed speakers. One phone call came late at night (around 1:00 a.m.) to a conference speaker, saying that this was “Joe Fields" calling from jail!

Let me state right now:

This conference WILL go on. COME HELL OR HIGH-WATER.

It MUST go on....precisely because the Jews and those working for them are trying so desperately to stop it. If in the long run, my participation causes a major problem, I will bow out and let others who have indicated a willingness to do so take over the reigns.

This conference is not about ME or my ego. Unlike Metzger and White, I am not in this for self-promotion but to see our cause successfully through. The question is what will YOU do, both now and when they start a stampede to come and get YOU? Better trash that computer right now and hide your eyes when a teen, of either sex, walks by. You might ANNOY them.

You see, if the Child-Molester Witch Hunt among our activists succeeds now, it will go on and expand.

I pray that I will live to see victory, at least for our children, and let the enemies who would blot us out have their plans turned back on their heads.

As for "drumming me out" of the movement, that is not going to happen. I have been in this struggle too long to let low-class individuals with no business in this movement affect me. The Jews and their agents did their very best to destroy me with these same lies years ago, and they failed.

As I've told friends who have contacted me about this during the last week or so, I may have started out as Don Quixote, but this whole thing has turned me into a Captain Ahab.

It's personal now....and a couple of little minnows like Metzger and White will NOT deflect my eyes from harpooning that fat kosher whale.

In closing, let me say that I fully understand that unfortunately human nature is what it is. Those who know me and have fought alongside me will believe me. Others who do not--or are inclined to gossip and believing the worst about people--will not. I accepted that long ago. Every leader must.

And once we have a movement that is truly dynamic and keeps us moving forward, not staring at each other in a fishbowl, these things will mostly fall by the wayside. There is an ancient saying: The Devil finds work for idle hands. Here we are bedeviling each other. If Israel attacks Iran , we may see the whole world situation change, and our movement.

This is the one and only time I will answer this calumny and discuss it. I REFUSE to be sidetracked from our common battle and be put on the defensive over slander-- slander I dealt with, in full, eleven years ago. I did my time in hell; I didn't do it for gossips but for our White Race, and if you'll excuse me, Deirdre and I have work to do for a conference called “No More Wars for Israel!”

-Joe Fields-
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***Disclaimer *** Joe Field's statement does not necessarily reflect the opinion of Nordwave. I am posting this for information purposes only.
 
Old March 5th, 2007 #63
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The guy asked a bunch of little girls to be in a porn movie with him, and was convicted of that.

If he's innocent, why was he driving up to little girls and talking to them in the first place? Is that normal adult male behavior?

Why was he given a very harsh one year sentence? Because of his political views? Hardly.
 
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The Feild's statement is long, tiresome and repulsive, and I am thoroughly disgusted and angered by reading it. How abhorrent is this pervert: he splits hairs, lies and defames six printed pages long! This creature has no trace of personal honour: otherwise, he at least would admit what he has done, or best put a bullet into his head.

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In any case, to use computer language, our “default setting” in the Cause should be this:

Any “morals charge”' by ZOG against one of us is automatically a LIE until PROVEN otherwise. But how can a government that threatens, and tortures openly, and lies 24/7 about literally everything, be trusted with ANY of its “proof??


Fair enough.

The "proof" you insist on was incontrovertibly provided by you, yourself, when you entered your nolo contendre plea. You were an adult. You were politically and legally experienced. You pontificate at great length today, but on the day it mattered you copped your plea.

You give us pages of denigration of Tom Metzger and Bill White; what do you have to say about Edgar J. Steele's posts in this thread? The silence is deafening.
 
Old March 5th, 2007 #66
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Who to believe? I don't know. On the surface Mr.Fields explanation seems plausible. Did Bill White lie about Fields raping little girls in front of a video camera? Is there any evidence?

From White's site: Stormfront Bans Posters Who Question Fields
Man Diddled Little Girl For Home Movies Is Close Associate Of Kelso, Strom

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Internet -- A man who raped little girls in front a video camera for his home viewing pleasure is being protected by Stormfront officials, who have banned at least five people from their website today for questioning the organization's involvement with Joe Fields.
 
Old March 5th, 2007 #67
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I'm sorry but it has to be said, these replies wreak of guilt.

An innocent man would have at least put up a defense, not spent such a vast amount of time off topic trying to distract with other activities from his history.

Having spent time inside I've spoken to hundreds of people, some guilty, some not guilty, and innocent people don't come out with stuff like this.

If there is any truth to Joe Fields story then this post of his did more damage to his case than good.

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In retrospect I can think of only one incident during this time (at the Del Amo Mall in Torrance, CA) that may or may not have something to do with the filth the ADL and local politicos tried to destroy me with...and it happened on a day when I had more than one friendly-kike encounter like the one described above. Two very attractive and provocatively-dressed young ladies who could have been anywhere from 15 to early 20's approached my table and began flirting with me. I have to admit I was flattered and, the male ego being what it is, I flirted right back.

They then asked me for my phone number, upon which I replied that as beautiful as they were I was a happily married man with a family, but I did give them some political literature with my P.O box number on it and told them they could contact me if they wanted to volunteer on phone banks and precinct walking...and that was that.

Whether or not this was the beginning of my set up I'll never know.
Joe, let's be straight here, you were arrested, charged, and pleaded no contest to cruising around and approaching nine girls, aged between 9 and 16, on their way home from school

You are claiming that the set up took place while talking to two very attractive girls aged anywhere between 15 and 20 in a mall, who approached your table?

The two incidents are not even remotely similar, are they?

I know some of these girls look old for their ages these days, the way they dress and stuff, but a 9 year old can not be mistaken for a girl aged 15 to 20, can she?

Furthermore nine girls are mistaken for two, or two for nine?

I don't think so.

You were charged on the back of witness statements from nine girls, who attended three different schools, these girls didn't all know each other, and spoke to the police individually.

This wasn't a couple of girls setting you up, these were separate incidents.

What you say above is just a plain excuse, it's unrelated to the charges in any way, shape or form, so why would you bring it up?

Don't you realize that when you offer a misleading, and false defense it makes you look guilty?

You were out cruising on several different occasions, near to schools, stopping to talk to girls.

You were 32 years old.

At 32 years old you don't drive around near schools talking to girls, and most certainly not to girls you don't know.

Your wife tries to defend you by saying "Now this might indeed amount to an insult, and surely the girls might have been annoyed -- it might also, have been a sarcastic, reality call that like so many of the girls strutting about L.A. , they were dressed like porno actresses (supposing it happened that is)."

But you just don't do it in the first place, I don't care what your motives were, you don't stop and hassle young girls when you are a 32 year old man, you can say you were being sarcastic, it was a reality call, or whatever excuse you want, but that doesn't excuse cruising repeatedly around school areas stopping to harass little girls!

Furthermore your wife also says "The 18 year old was asked whether she wanted to “invest her money” – in what was not specified -- which can hardly be taken seriously."

It doesn't matter if it can be taken seriously or not, it's not the investment side of the incident that is the problem, it's the part where you are driving around talking to little girls when they are walking home from school.

You could have been polite as anything, but 32 year old men don't stop random girls. It just isn't what is done.

Trying to play down the situation doesn't change those fundamental facts.

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Anyone looking into this law will see that under its broad definition, a boy of 18 could conceivably be thrown in jail for whistling at a girl a day or two away from her 18th birthday.
Firstly, we are not talking about a boy of 18 whistling at a girl a day or two away from her 18th birthday, are we, we are talking about a 32 year old man, approaching girls as young as 9.

That's a big, big difference Joe.

You are trying to downplay it all the time, where as an innocent man would be proving his innocence, not trying to excuse the crimes.

Can you not see this Joe?

If I was charged with a crime I didn't commit I wouldn't be on VNN trying to downplay the validity of the law, I'd be bringing every bit of evidence possible to show I was an innocent man, I wouldn't be sitting there saying it's ok to insult girls, or the law isn't that serious because someone else under different circumstances might get hammered for a minor offense.

I'd be showing everyone here that I didn't do it.

Come on Joe, this was school going home time, why are you driving around near so many different schools on so many different days, with absolutely no genuine reason, and if you had a genuine reason for being there then it wasn't a no contest was it, that would have been central to your defense, wouldn't it?

Do you think people here are idiots?

If I am driving around near lots of schools, on different days, then you bet I have a reason, I'm going to see someone, or coming home from seeing someone, or a store I use is in the area, or I work near by, and if any of those things are true then I have a witness who can put me in a certain place at a certain time, and then coming home from this place, or going to this place from home, I'd have my wifes testimony to put me at another place a certain time (and you were married at the time Joe), so I could stand them in court and say "See your honor, I had no time to stop and talk to young girls?"

Where is your defense?

There isn't one is there Joe?

Why isn't there?

Because you were at those schools, at those times, talking to those girls.

You were a 32 year old stranger stopping little girls to talk to them.

That is a no-no!

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We put in numerous court appearances, and all along I was assured (and quite frankly, EXPECTED) this would be dropped. After all, I kept telling myself, “This is bogus.... and even if it WERE true...how could such a thing with no evidence make it to trial?”
But there was evidence wasn't there Joe?

Nine separate girls made individual statements against you, and all identified you.

That's evidence, isn't it?

Again you are trying to mislead the audience Joe, that's not the act of an innocent man.

An innocent man might talk about the bogus evidence against him, but not about no evidence, because there was evidence.

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When I arrived, he told me the cops claimed there were several girls who identified me in a six-pack of photos with other individuals ---none of whom resembled me at all
Now again this is where I start to have problems, you see in your case the procedures followed were in line with the Peace Officers Standards Workbook chapter on identification, which states that multiple witnesses need to be kept separate, and to make their identifications separately, which did occur, and at least five fillers, similar in appearance to the suspect, should be used for identification purposes, which is what happened wasn't it Joe?

Furthermore all witnesses are instructed that a suspect may or may not be in a photo spread, so they don't even know you are there for sure.

But the real thing that bothers me about this little bit Joe is this, what difference does it make to an innocent man if the other 5 people don't look like you?

I mean if they ain't ever seen you before then why would they pick you out from the group?

And just to top all that off Joe, if those procedures are not met then your lawyer has a right and a duty to inform the court, and by doing so discredit the witness testimony.

Now, considering the main thrust against you in this case was the statements of the witnesses then if the identification wasn't clean cut, or was perverted in any way, shape or form, you'd be home dry, you could introduce a reasonable doubt in the validity at that point, and would have walked out of court.

I don't need to hire Ed Steele to work out what I'd be doing under those circumstances, you don't need to be a legal genius to know that if they did an unfair identification then the case is shot to pieces.

Therefore what you are saying just doesn't add up.

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It was obvious to me that this whole set-up was carefully planned, complete with MANUFACTURED "victims" and that these bastards were attempting to completely destroy me.
Damn that factory on Hawthorne Blvd. where they MANUFACTURE nine year old girls, hey?

Pump them out for the Del Amo fashion center do they?

You see this is where I struggle with this whole thing Joe, you just can't be straight, and I would have thought an innocent man would want to be straight, wouldn't you?

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Financially I really could not afford to go to trial, and the lawyer I had kept suggesting I plead "no contest." His reasoning was that the charge was silly and there would most definitely be no jail involved, but that, if dragged out, the press would continue to have a field day during trial, completely trashing my name and making any future run for office impossible. He further told me he was convinced that the alleged victims were part of the whole thing and that they would lie through their teeth and make up all kinds of vile and lurid trash, further embarrassing and humiliating me and my family.

The clincher was his telling me that if I did choose a trial and lost, I would almost certainly end up in jail.
Let me see now.

On the one hand I supposedly have evidence that the identification was illegal, and didn't follow conventional guidelines, and seriously undermined the entire case against me, and pretty much would guarantee my acquittal, and on the other hand, I have the worries of being labeled a pervert, and ending up in jail if I am found guilty of a charge where I claim the identification was illegal, and didn't follow conventional guidelines, and seriously undermined the entire case against me, what route would I take?

Again, it just doesn't add up Joe, you say you were worried about your name being dragged through the mud, but pleading to crimes against children pretty much does that, wouldn't you agree?

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As for the charges themselves....they were trumped up and silly to begin with. Take the time to analyze them:
That's the thing Joe, we have all taken the time, and we have all analyzed them, and they seem more sensible than the defense you have put forward, in fact, eleven years later you are still not putting forward a defense, you are just claiming that a group of little girls conspired with zog to bring you down, and just happened to get lucky, because you were cruising around schools at going home time, with no reason, or excuse, several times, on several different days, and you don't know the difference between a 9 year old and a 20 year old, and furthermore these little girls were in cahoots with the adl, the splc, a corrupt police force, Tom Metzger, Ed Steele, and Bill White, to mention but a few of the people you and your wife have chosen to attack.

Forgive me if I am not convinced.
 
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Yes, Francis Playfair, itz a bullshit excuse, it is.

Whenever a plea is copped (on the advice of counsel) the ONLY pertinent part of the deal is, "How much time is my client going to have to actually pull inside if he gives a guilty/nolo plea?" Thatz the only damn question there is! Defense counsel ALWAYS knows what the sentence will be on a copped plea, and always advises his [perp] client.

Is Joe telling us that he did not cop a plea? Well, if there was no bargain then the plea is even more straight forward: NOLO CONTENDRE!

Itz beginning to get monotonous to listen to all these "WN leaders" copping pleas and then running straight back outside with piles and piles of prefabricated "Excuses" for the stupid goyim. "A jury would send me to prison and the niggers would rape me and kill me if I went in." Sure. And the perp ends up in prison anyway! Anybody else remember other versions of this same old broken record? Tiresome, itz getting...
 
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Fields is a very short litlle fellow. I remember that from Marlinton.
 
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quote:They then asked me for my phone number, upon which I replied that as beautiful as they were I was a happily married man with a family, but I did give them some political literature with my P.O box number on it and told them they could contact me if they wanted to volunteer on phone banks and precinct walking...and that was that."


As any political figure would do, Joe Fields give two female, possible underage, his website URL or office phone number, doesn't mean anything.. Besides, in the political urgency, aren’t we supposed to reach-out to the young”?
 
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As any political figure would do, Joe Fields give two female, possible underage, his website URL or office phone number, doesn't mean anything.. Besides, in the political urgency, aren’t we supposed to reach-out to the young”?
I don't think anyone has an issue with him giving office details to other people, I don't think that's ever been a bone of contention, has it? In fact I'm sure many people give out office details on a daily basis, the only problem is is that it is totally unrelated to any of the charges.

Giving his office number to two people who approached him in the mall is a far cry from driving around school areas on several different days and stopping to talk to girls as young as nine, as they were walking home.

Why that anecdote is even included I am not sure, except possibly to try and mislead the gullible.

In fact had it been relevant then it would have further strengthened his defense, I mean if he was manning a highly visible political stall outside the mall then he would have had a lot of witnesses to state clearly that he wasn't cruising in his car outside the schools, stopping to talk to girls.

Joe states quite clearly "I found that a lot of people in the area still remembered me from my last two campaigns...many friendly and wanting to shake my hand..." so if this was the incident then there is his alibi, his defense, and his acquittal right there, isn't it?

Except it is a totally unrelated incident brought up for misdirection, and as I state above doesn't that strike people as odd?

He is arrested for several incidents, over a number of days, at different locations, driving around, harassing girls as young as nine, not for one incident, on a different day, for giving his office phone number to a girl who may have been as old as 20.

It just makes me suspicious, I know if I was wrongly charged I'd be working to clear my name, not trying to 'con' people into believing something I know to be unrelated.

I'd also be providing my defense.

This occurred eleven years ago, Joe has had eleven years to produce a defense, take away the hyperbole, take away the biography, take away the unrelated incidents, and what do you have?

Eleven years on he is still effectively offering no defense, or pleading no contest.

If I had a false charge hanging over my head I would have been spending those eleven years gathering every scrap of evidence possible to clear my name, wouldn't you?

This subject resurfaced some considerable time ago now, he's had a long time to work on the rather lengthy post he made above, don't you think with all that time to prepare, and with eleven years to prove his innocence, he would have at least offered up a defense?

I'm sorry, as I said at the start of my first reply to his statement, if there is any truth to Joe Fields story then this post of his did more damage to his case than good.

It just isn't straight, and it just doesn't add up.
 
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quote:They then asked me for my phone number, upon which I replied that as beautiful as they were I was a happily married man with a family, but I did give them some political literature with my P.O box number on it and told them they could contact me if they wanted to volunteer on phone banks and precinct walking...and that was that."
I don't believe it -- but -- there is a reason I don't talk to other people's children.

In any case, Fields admitted in court to soliciting the girls to appear in a porn movie. Everything said outside of court can thus be discounted.
 
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There is a news article which makes it sound like child porn was found, though, upon re-reading it, it may be a deliberately unclear statement.

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Who to believe? I don't know. On the surface Mr.Fields explanation seems plausible. Did Bill White lie about Fields raping little girls in front of a video camera? Is there any evidence?

From White's site: Stormfront Bans Posters Who Question Fields
Man Diddled Little Girl For Home Movies Is Close Associate Of Kelso, Strom

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Internet -- A man who raped little girls in front a video camera for his home viewing pleasure is being protected by Stormfront officials, who have banned at least five people from their website today for questioning the organization's involvement with Joe Fields.
 
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Fields admitted in court to soliciting the girls to appear in a porn movie. Everything said outside of court can thus be discounted.
parents who have been arrested for child endangerment automatically losses Childs-custody to the state or spouses… Field’s wife and kids are still with him.
 
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parents who have been arrested for child endangerment automatically losses Childs-custody to the state or spouses… Field’s wife and kids are still with him.
He was charged with a misdemeanor. If it was a serious crime why wasn't he charged with a felony?
 
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He was charged with a misdemeanor. If it was a serious crime why wasn't he charged with a felony?
Because he plead nolocontendere of cause. Otherwise, he'd end up as a convicted felon.
 
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Because he plead nolocontendere of cause. Otherwise, he'd end up as a convicted felon.
What you plea to and what your charged with, are two different things.
 
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What you plea to and what your charged with, are two different things.
Of course, but in this case, it is quite obvious that prosecution made a deal with a defendant's attorney, isn't it?
 
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