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Old October 13th, 2012 #621
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Chechar: I don't think Hegel and philosophers from earlier eras had any way to perceive the importance of race. They didn't have instant global information at hand the way we do, nor was mass travel so easy to bring the races together in such large numbers to let them make first hand observations. Hegel's observations about blacks suggest some awareness of race, but, just like you said, he didn't make it central. Hegel's rough contemporary, Thomas Jefferson, expressed similar ideas. It couldn't possibly have occurred to either man that non-whites would one day be walking the streets in every white nation.

Hegel had interpreters on the right and the left. I've never understood why the interpretations of Hegel's most famous interpreter (Marx) came from the left and took off in Europe.
 
Old October 13th, 2012 #622
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I've never understood why the interpretations of Hegel's most famous interpreter (Marx) came from the left and took off in Europe.
Marx’s contemporary Jew, Benjamin Disraeli, described race as the supremely important determinant (“All is race; there is no other truth”). He even wrote that if the “great Anglo-Saxon republic” allowed its white population “to mingle with negro and colored populations” it would be the beginning of the end of that country.

Proto-Zionist thinker Moses Hess, who worked with Marx, unlike Marx affirmed “Race struggle is primary, the class struggle is secondary.”

Unfortunately, Marxian ideas won recognition among the socialists in the 19th century and JS Mill among the liberals. Neither recognized the significance of race.
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I've never understood why the interpretations of Hegel's most famous interpreter (Marx) came from the left and took off in Europe.
Marxism was not merely an interpretation of Hegel. It was the application of ideational dialectics to materialism, and thereby its antithesis, which, in its turn, was exactly what Hegel's ideational dialectics predicted and logically demanded.

Hegel's work elicited its antithesis in Marxism which elicited its antithesis in National Socialism.
 
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Marxism was not merely an interpretation of Hegel. It was the application of ideational dialectics to materialism, and thereby its antithesis, which, in its turn, was exactly what Hegel's ideational dialectics predicted and logically demanded.

Hegel's work elicited its antithesis in Marxism which elicited its antithesis in National Socialism.
If I'm right about the foregoing, National Socialism brought forth Cultural Marxism, and I can't wait to see the next round.

Stay tuned for the next episode of As the Swastika Turns.
 
Old October 14th, 2012 #625
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From the Wiki: “He was the leading organizer of National Bolshevik Party, National Bolshevik Front, and Eurasia Party…”

I’ve only heard a couple of Dugin’s conferences and in both he dismissed NS. When I read the above, lead paragraph in the wiki, I had just added my latest WDH posts on Tom Goodrich’s revisionism on WW2 and Solzhenitsyn’s “duel with cold walls”. Dugin’s infatuation with Bolshevism immediately stroke me as charlatanry: an intellectual pigmy compared with Alexandr. This is my comment that Johnson did not let pass:

Most mainstream intellectuals are just ignorant. They don’t even know that the decline and fall of the Greco-Roman World was caused by miscegenation & blood mixing.

If I am allowed to be frank let me say that, like the other intellectuals, Alexander Dugin is sleeping in the matrix of political correctness. In another video he said something to the effect that the fact that Germany was defeated “proved” that a racialist view of history was wrong (something as silly as saying that the fact that Giorndano Bruno was tried by the Inquisition and burned at the stake “proved” that the heliocentric Copernican view was wrong).

Don’t take intellectuals or even philosophers seriously. No single so-called great philosopher of the Western tradition that I know figured out that “all the great events of history have a racial basis”, the POV of Arthur Kemp’s book, not even the nationalist G.W.F. Hegel.
It is noteworthy that even in National-Socialist Germany, in the reign of scientific racism and genealogy inquiries, very few people among the elite — State officials, academics, geopoliticians, historians, philosophers, writers, generals, etc. — had understood the fact that at the bottom of every civilization deterioration and subsequent collapse is a debasement of the DNA (or the "heredity", to use a more antiquated term) of the constituents of this civilization.

Racism and anti-Semitism were actually the credo of Hitler, Himmler, and perhaps Goebbels and Goering; all other members of the leadership were very mild in it, and I would venture to say that it was superficial; only a glaze, a varnish.

Keynes said only one man in a million understands the mechanisms of inflation in the world, I would say that only one man in ten million truly understands the racial problem in the world.
 
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It is noteworthy that even in National-Socialist Germany, in the reign of scientific racism and genealogy inquiries, very few people among the elite — State officials, academics, geopoliticians, historians, philosophers, writers, generals, etc. — had understood the fact that at the bottom of every civilization deterioration and subsequent collapse is a debasement of the DNA (or the "heredity", to use a more antiquated term) of the constituents of this civilization.

Racism and anti-Semitism were actually the credo of Hitler, Himmler, and perhaps Goebbels and Goering; all other members of the leadership were very mild in it, and I would venture to say that it was superficial; only a glaze, a varnish.
National-Socialism is primarily a doctrine of national unity through class-reconciliation. It's about using the power of government to make sure that all the members of the nation, who are expected to sacrifice for the nation in war, are treated with due regard. It is only incidentally anti-Jew.

What does all this stuff about Hegel etc. have to do with Greggy Johnson's flimflam?

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Old December 6th, 2012 #627
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I commented on an essay by Kerry Bolton that begins by dumping on Hitler and then expresses false amazement that poor little Communist Jew refugees from Germany could turn out to be intolerant.

You can gauge Greggy's ability to cope with criticism from this:

Hadding Scott:
I wonder why Bolton begins by saying that the “Hitler regime” was “noted” for “repression of scientists”

I don’t see any examples of such scientists in the essay.

Starting an essay by saying something negative about Hitler seems a lot like saying, “I’m not racist but …”
Greg Johnson:
Well there’s the example of the Frankfurt School in the very next sentence.
Hadding Scott:
I saw that, but the Institut für Sozialforschung in Frankfurt was not shut down for being scientific but for being Communist.

It was not at all “ironically” that these refugee Communist Jews “laid the foundations for a system that is intolerant….”
Greg Johnson:
Hadding, I am banning you as a commentator for this kind of dishonest sophistic quibbling.

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What does all this stuff about Hegel etc. have to do with Greggy Johnson's flimflam?
It could be that "Flimflam" is but a contracted signifier for Hegel's technically correct but typologically unwieldy "thesisantithesis".
 
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It could be that "Flimflam" is but a contracted signifier for Hegel's technically correct but typologically unwieldy "thesisantithesis".
Hegel never actually used those terms. It's Marxist terminology. What then would be the synthesis at which Greggy would have us arrive? All that I see him doing is constantly talking out both sides of his mouth in an attempt to be different things to different people.
 
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Hegel never actually used those terms. It's Marxist terminology. What then would be the synthesis at which Greggy would have us arrive? All that I see him doing is constantly talking out both sides of his mouth in an attempt to be different things to different people.
I suspect the conclusion to which the Doctor would have us come is that of an auxiliary orifice being brought into play behind the scene.
 
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I suspect the conclusion to which the Doctor would have us come is that of an auxiliary orifice being brought into play behind the scene.
You are a master of euphemistic circumlocution.
 
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Jews are the primary enemy of WN and traditional Western culture.

If there is no Holocaust, then communism stands entirely alone as the preeminent perpetrator of crimes against humanity (e.g. mass-murder on a grand scale). This preeminence would eventually lead even the casually curious to the role of Jewry in communism and its crimes, resulting in some huge reassessments of perspectives on just about everything.

This is why the European nation-states must be gathered as a whole under EU control, with the European Jewish Parliament right across the street. If the truth were widely known, each nation would quickly recognize the legitimacy of their former existence, their heritage, and of nationalism as a policy.

Therefore, the Holocaust tale is worthy of every opportunity to discredit it.

I was once rebuked by a co-worker for using the N-word. "You're an educated man," he said. The same or similar statement might be used when assailing the Holocaust as the lie it truly is (e.g. "C'mon. You're an educated individual.").

Of course, it seems likely the US and the 'kwans would be among the last to recognize the significance and enormity of the lie and rebel against the Jew world order.
 
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Jews are the primary enemy of WN and traditional Western culture.

If there is no Holocaust, then communism stands entirely alone as the preeminent perpetrator of crimes against humanity (e.g. mass-murder on a grand scale). This preeminence would eventually lead even the casually curious to the role of Jewry in communism and its crimes, resulting in some huge reassessments of perspectives on just about everything.

This is why the European nation-states must be gathered as a whole under EU control, with the European Jewish Parliament right across the street. If the truth were widely known, each nation would quickly recognize the legitimacy of their former existence, their heritage, and of nationalism as a policy.

Therefore, the Holocaust tale is worthy of every opportunity to discredit it.

I was once rebuked by a co-worker for using the N-word. "You're an educated man," he said. The same or similar statement might be used when assailing the Holocaust as the lie it truly is (e.g. "C'mon. You're an educated individual.").
Most men are women, mentally. Women believe that education means parroting the position, on any given subject, that is taught in college. If you know the right position, you're educated, if you don't, you're ignorant. They truly don't get it, because they aren't capable of getting it.

The jews will never forgive whites the crime of resisting their communism, and we must pay for it with our racial life. And that is why we must counter-exterminate them. That's the only conclusion solid analysis culminates in. This great thread shows that certain parties aren't even up to the task intellectually. It's just more Anglo-American-New-Zealand-Australin jew-safe conservative shekelling.

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It is a great thread, one I remembered well enough to revisit.
 
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It is a great thread, one I remembered well enough to revisit.
Yeah...I enjoyed it, not just cuz good feuds are useful, necessary, yet hard to come by.

Way I look at it...

look at it from position of jews tasked with identifying potential enemies and enemy potential.

Ok...nobody threatens us today, inside the US. Where might a threat, though, originate, if something were to crop up?

- any men with serious money making noise against us?

- what about academics? any phds or popular journalists sounding off?


Now...from these men's position, how do they take what they see from messrs KM, Johnson et al., specifically re their expressed opinions on Hitler, the Nazis and 'the' 'holocaust'?

I think it's pretty obvious they will see those positions as showing unserious weakness among potentially serious opponents.
 
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I'll pop this on twitter, see if get some eyeballs.
 
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I would like to hear responsible speculation on whether Mark Weber and Jared Taylor are or have been in the CIA or funded by CIA money. I have heard this re Weber, but forget the claim and source. I have not heard it re Taylor, but he went to Princeton, a famous recruiting ground. And he has said he wants to be the William F. Buckley of white nationalism, and Buckley was in fact not just a jew-sellout like JT is, but an actual employee of the CIA. The CIA is also famous for putting loads of money, during the Cold War, into literary and political fronts supporting democracy. Could the CIA now be supporting the undermining of WN, which for objective reasons ought to be or be nearing mass takeoff?
Michael Collins Piper put forth this claim. If the CIA did have Weber and Taylor on the payroll, then they are indeed in sad shape.

This is hogwash pure and simple.
 
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I doubt that what Taylor meant was that he wanted to collect newspaper-clippings from Latin-American newspapers, which is what Buckley said he did for the CIA.

Buckley is reputedly the guy that brought conservatism back to respectability. I suppose that Taylor meant that he wanted to make race-realism respectable, and he seems to have had some success in that.

We just need criticism of Jews to be respectable too. That has been developing especially since 9-11.

Why is respectability important? Because revolutions always start with a division in the ruling elite. A significant part of the elite has to be convinced that we are right. Then we have a good chance.
 
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... revolutions always start with a division in the ruling elite. A significant part of the elite has to be convinced that we are right. Then we have a good chance.
Close, but no cigar, Hadding.

Nobody of any account gives a rat's ass about right and wrong because, in case you haven't gotten the memo, God is dead.

Elites, by definition, care about power. When we show them we can empower them, the game will begin.

As long as we persist in moralizing about right and wrong, they will continue fucking us up our self-righteous assholes as we deserve.

Christards must be jettisoned. Until then, no one in their right mind will take us seriously.
 
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Close, but no cigar, Hadding.

Nobody of any account gives a rat's ass about right and wrong because, in case you haven't gotten the memo, God is dead.

Elites, by definition, care about power. When we show them we can empower them, the game will begin.

As long as we persist in moralizing about right and wrong, they will continue fucking us up our self-righteous assholes as we deserve.

Christards must be jettisoned. Until then, no one in their right mind will take us seriously.
What you overlook is that many people are viscerally inclined toward truthfulness about race but don't come forward because they want to know that they have good enough information that they won't be made to look like an idiot in an argument.

Jared Taylor has helped a lot of people with that I think, so far as Negroes and Mestizos are concerned.

Your assertion that nobody of any account cares about right and wrong is just bollocks.
 
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