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Old August 19th, 2011 #61
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THAT's John Adams? What did he do during his time in office? Rape the Virgin Mary?
 
Old August 19th, 2011 #62
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I guess it must be a "don't confuse us with the facts" scenario...
Yeah, there's a lot of that in the painting.

I've come across a few other mixed-up patriotard art works previously. I think I posted a couple here within the last year.

I might pick apart the ridiculous symbology later. But an A for effort, as far as it goes.
 
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THAT's John Adams? What did he do during his time in office? Rape the Virgin Mary?
LOL

Suffice it to say, that's de debil.

I guess I find John Adams to be particularly dastardly looking. lol He's on the right, just in front of Reagan, with the Tea Party-approved secular saints.
 
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Also, I had a semi-long exposition I wrote on the imagery in that political painting, but I mis-clicked and lost it all. What I see in it is fascinating, somewhat as a mental patient or tragic auto accident may be fascinating.

Damn it all to hell!
 
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Also, I had a semi-long exposition I wrote on the imagery in that political painting, but I mis-clicked and lost it all. What I see in it is fascinating, somewhat as a mental patient or tragic auto accident may be fascinating.

Damn it all to hell!
Where did you find that anyway?

It looks like something done by the Mormons or the JWs... if it were the JWs, though, there would be more minorities. Prince would probably be standing next to Michael Jackson and Abe Lincoln. This is like the Sgt. Pepper's of the Tea Party.

Anyway, the whole things seems to go back to abortion. You got the pregnant chick asking the judge who's flipping out, with the media, businessman, academia, lawyers, and a white guy looking on... ignoring Jesus who for some reason ordained the Constitution.
 
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I guess that's supposed to be the school teacher who got blown up in the Challenger accident, why she was so brave, such a heroine, why let's make her into a fuckin saint because… she was a civil servant and she died in an accident, oooouuuu.

I find this tendency amongst the idiot good citizens to massively over memorialize things and their weird and tacky collective grieving to be very disturbing, particularly when they grieve for civil servants, like a school teacher who got killed in a rocket accident, or the soldier in a warzone who got drunk and fell into the latrine pit, or the idiot fireman (oooouuu, a fireman) who fell off the bleachers chasing a ball. These patriotards and a good portion of the good citizens are fuckin outright wierd, possibly dangerous!
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Apparently the painting was painted by a Mormon, the book the nigger is holding is called the
The_Five_Thousand_Year_Leap The_Five_Thousand_Year_Leap
, according to wiki it was written by some Mormon dude.


What little esteem I still had for Mormons just evaporated, those people are fucking weirdoes. All christards are weirdoes.
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Embracing darwin are they?

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Obviously,

The good 'uns lurch toward jeboo's right-hand.

Non-creationists, as well as liberal judges, teen whores, sith lords and larry the cable goy, well, they're chuckling together over how easily they cleaned house on this tard-swarm with a cheap jesus-actor, while the money-jew fingers the profits in the corner.

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What strikes me is how many soldiers are in Rouse's painting, in the twisted mind of the painter professional killers, which ZOG's mercs certainly have been since the last war with Mexico, are made into saints, its grotesque, how does that mesh with christard's number one rule, thou shall not kill?
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What strikes me is how many soldiers are in Rouse's painting, in the twisted mind of the painter professional killers....
The jew's been sending our people off to fight their wars since the Crusades. This fact should be evidence enough to show why we're fighting from an untenable position.

Out of 100% of the White race, maybe 1% are racially aware

Out of that 1% racially aware Whites, maybe only 20% are hip to the jew fraud that is Christianity.

Can our numbers be anymore miniscule?

We're fighting a battle on too many fronts. We can point out the lunacy of Christianty all day long and we'll never make a dent in the steadfast belief that most Whites have for their jew-crafted delusions. The hook that promises immortality has controlled men's minds since the dawn of consciousness. We'd be well advised to make that part of our creed simply because we have no way to prove a promised immortality otherwise. What do we offer that's greater than everlasting life? Anything we say pales in comparison. We need a reality check.

The jew has it right. Our people are indeed herd animals. They need to be led for their own good. Hitler had it right as well. We can't rationally expect them to willfully and by their own volition to forsake their God and their beloved country's government and to follow us no matter how dire their situation becomes. As it stands now, they're offering-up their children on the altar of war at the behest of the jew. What greater scacrifice do we need to witness before we understand the depth of control the jew has over our people?

It's my contention that there's enough in the Bible that we can use to meet the goals of our agenda. Who says we lack the creativity to do so? Does that bother anyone here that we'd use the same sort of device that controls the minds of our people that's currently being used by the jew and killing us now? That has our race on the edge of the cliff overlooking our extinction? Desparate times call for desparate measures. What would you do to save the life of your child? How much time do we have to debate this tail-chaser? Don't we play into the jew's hands by this sort of dawdling?

For those who think my opinion sells us out or is less than morally appropriate for Whites to consider, then please tell me of a better way and I'll follow you.

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To hear the Kosher Konservatives tell it, a fierce, intensive battle is raging today between the evil forces of communism and the sacred forces of Christianity. We are led to believe that it is an all out battle between good and evil. We are told that these two forces are the very essence of two poles of opposition— in complete and diametrical conflict.

It is a sham battle. The fact is they are both degenerate products of the collective Jewish mind, designed to do one and the same thing— to destroy the White Race.

If we take a closer look at these two evil forces that have bedeviled and tormented the minds of the White Race for all these years, we find that they are not on opposite sides at all. We find that they are both on the side of international Jewry, doing the job they were designed to do, namely: confuse and confound the White Man’s intelligence so that he himself will help the Jew in destroying the White Race.

In comparing the two we find that they are strikingly similar, and not opposites. In fact, there are so many similarities in the two programs and in the philosophy of these two creeds that the hand of the same author can easily be detected. That author is the International Jewish network. They and they alone wrote both the creed of Christianity and the creed of communism.

Both communism and Christianity preach against materialism. Communism designates those productive and creative forces of our society to which we owe in such large part the benefits of a productive White civilization, as “bourgeois.” It then lashes out with unparalleled fury at the bourgeois and tells us over and over again that they must be destroyed. Instead of giving credit where credit is due, it slanders and vilifies these constructive and productive elements, namely the bourgeois or the capitalists, as the ultimate in evil.

Christianity tells us basically the same thing. It tells us that it will be more difficult for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get to heaven. It tells us that we should “sell all thou hast and give it to the poor,” an insidious piece of advice that, if followed, would make us all a pack of roving bums and beggars. It would most surely cause the breakdown of our society. Christianity further tells us “lay not up treasures on earth, but lay up treasures in heaven.” Throughout, the implication is clear. Don’t accumulate unto yourself any of the good things in life. If, through hard work, you’ve already managed to accumulate some wealth, get rid of it, give it away, give it to the poor, above all, give it to the Church, they’ll take it, with relish.

The net result of this fantastically bad advice, of course, is that it will more easily pass into the hands of the Jews, who do not subscribe to such foolishness. They hope to make fools of us, knowing very well the old saying “A fool and his money are soon parted,” is only too true. The other side of the coin is that the leaders of both Christianity and communism themselves are fantastically materialistic. When we look at the Catholic Church on down through the ages, we find that whereas they were extracting the last mite from the poor widow, the church itself was gathering up and hoarding gold, silver and precious gems in unbelievable quantities. Not only was it taking in and gathering all the gold, silver and precious stones that it could, but it acquired huge amounts of real estate, and the Catholic Church today is undoubtedly the most fantastically wealthy institution on the face of the earth.

Even through the Dark Ages when poverty was widespread, mostly because of Christianity itself, we find these huge and fabulously rich cathedrals, built in the midst of poverty, with gold encrusted altars and apses and vaults and columns and walls. The leadership of the Church caused to be built huge and great Basilicas, Cathedrals, Abbeys, Baptisteries, Mausoleums, Convents, and Churches. Practically all of these were so lavish and so huge in comparison with the meager surroundings of the times, that they flamboyantly stood out as the main repository of all the material wealth— gold, silver and architectural lavishness— of both their era and their geographical location.

The church never has bothered to explain why it was so necessary to have such lavish wealth on display to the worshipping faithful, who were told time and again that it was evil to “lay up treasures.” Unto this day, churches are built to be flamboyant, garish and bizarre. Money seems to be no object. The Vatican, that citadel of “spiritual” leadership, which also preaches, “lay not up treasures on earth,” does not practice what it preaches. On the contrary, what it practices is indeed the height of hypocrisy, and the antithesis of spirituality. It goes all out for laying up treasures on earth. It has amassed unto itself a portfolio of 5.6 billion dollars in stocks alone, not to mention all of its real estate, art treasures and other valuables. It enjoys an annual income of 1.5 billion dollars, much of it undoubtedly collected from the “widow’s last mite,” as well as its vast holdings. The United States religious establishment as a whole is valued at 102 billion dollars. In 1969, of the 17.6 billion dollars United States individuals contributed to charity (mostly benefiting the niggers), 45 percent, or 7.9 billion dollars was earmarked for religious purposes. Pretty materialistic for a religion that “shuns” earthly treasures and preaches “my kingdom is not of this world.”

Likewise, the communist bosses in Russia, practically all of which are Jews, have accumulated unto themselves all the riches of the countryside. While the communist slave laborer is toiling away twelve hours a day and then comes home to a dingy, dirty, filthy, crowded little apartment shared with other families, his Jewish bosses have opulent palaces spread all over the countryside. They drive the best of cars, chauffeur driven, of course, and eat the best of foods. Not only that, but they have the best of planes at their disposal to fly wherever they see fit to govern their slave laborers.

These Jewish communist bosses usually also have at their disposal imported clothes and tailors and a galaxy of servants. When they need a rest from running their slave empire, they have private villas on the Black Sea or other choice vacation spots at their beck and call. And so it goes in the Proletarian Worker’s Paradise.

Let us pass on to the next similarity. Both communism and Christianity make extensive use of the weapons of terror, both psychological and real.

Undoubtedly the most ghoulish and vicious concept ever contrived by the depraved and collective mind of Jewry is the concept of hell. Can you think of anything more horrible than placing millions of people in confinement in a superheated torture chamber and then burning them forever and ever without even the mitigating mercy of allowing them to die? With this piece of “Good News,” and “Joyful Tidings,” Christianity set out to conquer the minds of its superstitious and unreasoning victims.

The fact that such a torture chamber was non-existent did not at all detract from the fact that it was a real threat to those who were made to believe that it was real. To a child, for instance, if you tell him that the Boogieman is going to get him, and he innocently believes you, then the threat is just as real as if a Boogieman actually existed. And so it is with hell.
To those that have become convinced that it exists, this horrible threat is just as real as if it did exist.

However, Christianity did not stop with using psychological terror alone. Those who deviated from the official church line were declared as heretics and forthwith burned at the stake. The idea of using fire in one form or another as a means of torturing their opponents seems to have obsessed these “loving” Christians’ minds. According to van Braght’s famous Martyr’s Mirror, some 33,000 Christians were put to death by other so-called Christians by means of burning at the stake, a grizzly type of revenge. Among my ancestors alone (who were of the Mennonite faith) some 2,000 martyrs were burned at the stake by these ever-loving Christians.

One outstanding feature about this burning at the stake business was that they were always White people who were being burned. Never have I heard of a nigger being burned at the stake for his heretical beliefs. Nor have I ever heard of a Jew being burned at the stake for not believing precisely along specified lines of Judaism, even though they did not believe in Christ at all. Burning at the stake wasn’t the only means of torture and death used by these love-dispensing Christians who were so eager to spread their message of love.

During the Inquisition, and other times, all the beastly refinements of torture that the depraved human mind could devise were used to extort confessions and whip the unbelievers or heretics into line. The thumb-screw, water-dip, the iron corset, drawn and quartered, gouging out one’s eyes with hot irons, and the rack (slowly tearing limb from body by means of stretching) were but some of the devices used by these ever-loving Christians to spread their gospel of Love.

When the communists came along and used physical torture as one of their instruments of conquest, they had very little left to invent but what the Christians had already utilized before them. And this is as can be expected, since it was Jewish fiendishness that designed the means of torture for both. Nor did the Church hesitate to use wholesale warfare to batter down whole nations that did not submit to their religious dictation. In fact during the 16th, 17th and 18th century the main causes of war were religious dissentions in which one religious group sought to force their beliefs on their opposites by wholesale warfare and slaughter.

The communist record of using wholesale terror, both psychological and physical, is so recent, so widespread and so well known that we need hardly review it here. In Russia alone the Jewish communist regime used terror on a scale unknown before in the annals of history. In order to exterminate the best of the White Race in Russia, namely the White Russians, the Jews slaughtered some 20,000,000. The terror, the killings, the murders that are
going on in Russia today defy the imagination of the average White Man’s mind. In any case, both communism and Christianity are using, and have used, terror extensively, both psychological and physical, to subjugate their victims.

Whereas the Christians excelled in psychological terror, the communists excel in physical terror. But in both cases the Jews were experts in using whatever type of terror best accomplished their ends. Both communism and Christianity have a book that presumably lays down the creed of their movement.

Christianity has the Jewish bible which was written by Jews, mostly about Jews, for the purpose of uniting the Jewish race and for destroying the White Race. The communist bible is Karl Marx’s Das Kapital and the Communist Manifesto, written by Karl Marx in conjunction with Friedrich Engels, both of whom were Jews. Both of these Jewish creeds, communism and Christianity, are highly destructive, and when followed, tear down the fabric of the society that has fallen victim to them. Christianity teaches the evilness of man, that he is a no-good, unworthy sinner, that he is born in sin and that his every instinct is evil. Communism preaches that the productive, creative element of our society, namely the “bourgeois” as they call them, is rotten and evil, and must be destroyed.

It can be safely said that any sound, healthy society that turned either to complete Christianity and practiced all of its principles, or any society that practiced pure communism, would soon destroy itself. Again we want to vigorously point out that contrary to what these Kosher Konservatives are always telling us, communism is by no means the same as socialism or collectivism. The latter are basic constructive elements of any healthy society, but communism is an undisguised Jewish slave-labor camp.

Since I have gone into this matter in considerable detail in another chapter, we will not take further space to review this idea here. Both communism and Christianity preach the equality of man. Christianity preaches that we are all equal in the eyes of the Lord, whereas the communists preach that we all must become equal in the communist society. The latter argue that the only reason we are not equal is entirely due to environment, and this little quirk of Nature they are going to correct. By the time they get through processing us all in an equal environment, they assure us they will have leveled us all down to where we are all equal. This will only be too true, for the White Race will be leveled down to where they are all equal to a horde of miserable slaves, whereas every Jew, on the other hand, will be a king.

Not only do both communism and Christianity preach the equality of the individual, but they also preach the equality of races, another vicious lie thrown in the face of Nature. Both creeds have a very tricky dogma that is rather nebulous and confusing, not to say contradictory, in itself.

They both, therefore, have set up a hierarchy that interprets what the correct dogma of the day is and everyone is to toe the line or suffer the consequences of an entrenched power structure.

Christianity and communism both have had their schisms. In the case of Christianity, the followers that differed were called heretics and in the case of communism, those that stray from the official line are called deviationists.

In the case of Christianity, the Great Schism, of course, was during the Reformation when the Protestant segment developed and broke away from the Catholic Church. It then proceeded to split and splinter in a thousand different directions from there on out, all to the detriment and destruction of the White Race. The first great split, of course, was when the Byzantine Empire split from the Roman or Western half. Among the communists there were a number of schisms such as the Mensheviks and the Bolsheviks, and a number of other schisms, before the communists ever came to power. After they did come to power, there were the Stalinist communists and the Trotskyite communists, the latter being vigorously pursued and purged from the ranks. Now we presumably have the Mao wing of the communist party and for a while we had the Tito deviationists, and so on.

In any case, the main idea in Christianity and communism is the same: On top of a confusing and impossible dogma sits a tight powerful hierarchy which dictates and interprets what the line of its followers must be, and terror, death and reprisal are the consequences to those who dare to think for themselves. It is not at all surprising that the archenemy of both these Jewish creeds is Adolph Hitler, because he dared to come out with a healthy, natural social structure that embodied those principles that were in harmony with the natural laws, and with the healthy instincts for the preservation of the White Race. We, therefore, find the Jewish press, the communist press, and Christianity, all in chorus, denouncing Adolph Hitler, and telling us what a terrible, terrible man he was. All perpetrate and repeat over and over again the same Jewish lies about Hitler that the Jews themselves have dreamed up and supplied to their toadying stooges. The similarities between these creeds go on and on. Both preach the destruction of the present society. They especially zero in on the destruction and downgrading of the more creative and productive elements of society as a whole. Both denounce and vilify the better elements of established society and rejoice at human failures and weaknesses, thereby claiming to prove the correctness of their communist-Christian theory.

The Jews, who are the perpetrators of communism, envision the United Nations headquarters to finally rest in Israel and in particular, in Jerusalem. Christianity too, continuously keeps talking about Zion, the New Jerusalem, and looks to Jerusalem as the Holy Land, its origin and spiritual headquarters. Both of these Jewish creeds consistently follow policies which are disastrous to the welfare of the White Race. I have already gone into considerably detail about the catastrophic effects of Christianity on the great White Roman civilization. I have also pointed out previously that the Jews in communist Russia killed off 20,000,000 of the best White Russians. However, the programs and policies of both these creeds extend much further than these two major catastrophes of history and to point out how disastrous the effects of both Christianity and communism have been upon the fortunes of the White Race would require a whole volume in itself. I believe we have scattered throughout this book a mass of such examples that it is hardly necessary to again repeat them here.

Another similarity that manifests itself in both of these Jewish creeds is that both have an incurable ability to put forth a profuseness of verbiage that is extremely vague and beclouded with confusion. Not only is the verbiage profuse, but incredibly lacking in substance. This is an old Jewish trick to confuse and confound the minds of their opposition, the latter being deceived into thinking that all this vast collection of words must have some higher meaning beyond their comprehension. To further destroy and beat back the opposition, both creeds have developed to a high state the art of hurling vicious trigger words and hate words at their opponents. The Christians developed such hate-trigger words as atheist, heathen, heretic, apostate, blasphemy, pagan, sinner and anti-Christ. The communists have developed a whole stable of similar trigger words, and some of these are Fascist, Nazi, racist, bigot, prejudice, and anti-Semitic. Without anyone really stopping to analyze what each of these words mean and why they should be considered as bad, these words have been developed to a high state of implied evil so that by just merely calling these names, you need not really debate the issues, but mercilessly strike down your opponents without resorting to any debate or reasoning whatsoever.

If the similarities between Christianity and communism seem rather striking, there is a very good reason for their parallel ideology. That reason is, of course, they were both concocted by the Jewish power structure for the common objective of destroying the White Race. Unfortunately, up to this point, both their ideologies have been devastatingly effective. It is partially the purpose of this book and the CHURCH OF THE CREATOR to confront this devastating attack on the mind of the White Race and expose these twin Jewish ideologies for what they are.

Furthermore, I am firmly convinced, and it is my measured conclusion, that the Jews could never have foisted modern communism on a long suffering humanity, had they not First softened up, unhinged and confused the intellect of the White Race with the fallacious snares of Christianity. It is therefore the further objective of Creativity to help straighten out the befuddled thinking of the White Race to where they then can, and will, expunge both of these twin Jewish scourges from the face of this planet.

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The problem with Whites is that they always tend towards abstraction and the universal truths. Its been this way, even before any White ever heard of a man named Jesus.

Socrates - "I am not an Athenian or a Greek, but a citizen of the world."
 
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The problem with Whites is that they always tend towards abstraction and the universal truths. Its been this way, even before any White ever heard of a man named Jesus.

Socrates - "I am not an Athenian or a Greek, but a citizen of the world."
I think that's true. I think it's hybris / hubris - false and foolish pride.

It's funny and strange what's good and bad:

individuals = good
universals = good
generalizations = bad

The catholic intellectual says 'the white race' is an unreal abstraction, yet 'catholic' ie universal humanity is perfectly acceptable.

It beggareth all understanding.

I feel like that tequila-drinking Sopranos guy in the ad.

"Whatever happened to common sense? Where I come from, just looking at the world and making simple observations was good enough. Now everybody has to be a fucking metaphysician and Ultimate Moralist."
 
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Im not religious, but while the jews and Muslims identify, we White Christians have somehow grown out of religion.

Interesting video from brother Nathanael.

 
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Br. Nathanael (I didn't know i had a jewish brother) says WE, implying that he is White. Or by "we" he means "united in the body of christ".

Things were stagnant until the Renaissance. The Renaissance (rebirth) meant the rebirth of pagan Roman and Greek cultural works. Rebirth of FREE THOUGHT.
And what did the bastards do to Galileo?

The West is Greco-Roman (with a smidgen of Tijuana, as advised by Armstrong).

THE WEST IS NOT CHRISTIAN.

RELIGION IS FEMININE. THE RENAISSANCE WAS MASCULINE.
 
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TED PIKE'S REPLY TO DAVID DUKE
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David:

I wrote my recent article "Perils of David Duke's 'White Pride Utopia'" because I find your "dream" of eventually evacuating all non-whites from America and Europe very disturbing. We need to continue discussion of this extreme and dangerous proposal you now encourage your followers to share. I believe it threatens the future and reputation of our burgeoning anti-Zionist/immigration movement.

I am even more concerned because, after considering my article, you remain convinced that continental separation of the races is a workable, even high-minded solution to the threat posed by minorities to survival of the white race.

You say in your recent letter to me (See, "My Letter to Rev. Ted Pike" by David Duke) that, once Zionist control over the West is broken, blacks will eagerly see the vision that they, too, can possess their own racially exclusive cultures elsewhere. Speaking of expatriation of blacks to Africa, you say, "It is only the Jewish power over media and government that literally keeps this peaceful and popular (though logistically difficult) solution to the race problem from occurring." After emancipation from Zionism, "both Blacks and Whites will overwhelmingly embrace this great dream of living in a society [separate societies an ocean apart] that fully supports their own particular expressions of humanity and culture and value." Upholding this possibility, you cite proposals by Marcus Garvey and even Louis Farrakhan for blacks' emigration back to Africa.

Do you really think, David, that once the Jewish stranglehold is broken, millions of blacks, including countless professionals in America and Europe, will eagerly leave their homes for the poverty, disease and internecine war threatening genocide that has plagued Africa for the past 40 years? Yes, perhaps, when water runs uphill!

Your dream of racial division of the continents is high-octane idealism for many, motivating anti-immigration zeal. But you aren't sharing with your audience the impossibility of seeing that dream come true. It emphatically will not prove the "peaceful" solution you hold up. The only way tens of millions of blacks would ever be persuaded to leave North America and Europe and return to Africa is by force. That reality kills your dream. That reality makes it wrong to continue to advocate it as a viable prospect. You have no business encouraging others in this dangerous, strife-engendering direction.

Dream the Right Kinds of Dreams

It is critical that our dreams, and those we persuade others to hope in, be ethically pure and based in truth and workability. Removal of all blacks and racial minorities from North America and Europe can only be accomplished by extinction of civil rights, fraught with unimaginable suffering. Even though you don’t advocate coercion, others could turn your dream into nightmare. No government in our era would ever endorse such an oppressive scheme. The very suggestion of a racial solution that necessitates mass uprooting of innocent people, whose only offense is the color of their skin, will incur shame and derision not only upon you but on all in our movement who advocate it.

Some utopian dreams are high-minded in their conception and, although impractical, are at worst harmless. If we invigorate people to aspire and work toward a more loving, compassionate, and just planet, such ambition cannot mislead, be abused or corrupt. But if we aspire to a vision of the world which by necessity will incur horrendous suffering and injustice, we create a monster.

Like Dr. Frankenstein, who never imagined the havoc his creation would wreak, you instill in many a hope which can only be fulfilled by strife.

Of course, there is nothing wrong with blacks, on their own initiative, immigrating to Africa and dedicating themselves through hard work to new lives there. But you infer that if the world will be as it should be, all blacks from North America and Europe should return to Africa, leaving all whites free to enjoy and evolve higher in their own division of the planet. I quote again from the end of your Norway video: "Our people will secure our own borders. We will live in the harmony of our heritage…We will be enriched by our own heritage, nurtured by the best in it. And each generation will grow more beautiful and stronger in the image of the best of us, and the future will be ours and the universe will lay in the grasp of our outstretched arms."

You and I vehemently protest Israel eviction, internment, and isolation of Palestinians. However, if your dream becomes reality, the necessary assault on the rights and dignity of blacks will be horrifically more intense, tearing families not only out of ancestral homes and occupations but even countries where they have lived for centuries. It would be virulent segregation of a global magnitude!

We live in a time of increasing insensitivity to loss of rights and suffering of racial groups we look down upon. Many "Israel-first" evangelicals don't care whether the Palestinians live or die. Many Arabs don't care whether Jews live or die. Many Ultra-Orthodox Jews don't care whether Christians and Gentiles live or die. Many white racialists don't care whether Latinos and blacks live or die. And emphatically, ADL-type Jewish supremacists actively seek extinction of Christians and Christianity, just as did their Jewish Bolshevik forebearers after 1917, slaughtering millions of Christians. (See, Jewish Activists Created Communism)

Equality of rights for every race is a strand within the legal tapestry that binds civilization together. If we as white Christians advocate a scheme that necessarily leads to an end of human rights protections for one group, allowing illegal deportation, our own protection against such deportation unravels.

Is Race War Inevitable?

Today within the far right a conviction is rapidly spreading that, because of explosive minority infusion, it is already too late to slow down eventual extermination of the white race -- unless a race war erupts, expelling minorities. Clearly, the dream of black expulsion already deeply infects our anti-Zionist and anti-immigration movement with dire, even apocalyptic racist foment. This is exactly what I feared would someday happen.

In the early 1980s I played a pivotal role in helping jump-start anti-Zionist awakening through publication of my book Israel: Our Duty, Our Dilemma and video The Other Israel. Even then I foresaw danger if the anti-Zionist movement would eventually unite with racist fanaticism. You say your plan for expatriation of blacks is already "popular." This underscores my concern that it not become a plank of the anti-Zionist and anti-immigration platform. If it does, Jewish supremacist media will viciously stereotype the movement with a savage mockery exponentially more damaging than was employed against the John Birch Society in the early 1960s. That was an attack that spelled "obituary" for conservative revival for the next 20 years.

Race-hate is very real and malignant and has existed from the beginning. Hatred and contempt of others because of race can indeed obsess people even to the point of violence, as is happening among many ethnic groups and sects of the world today.

A nation’s right to control its borders, however, is not hateful or extreme. In my latest Bible study at Truthtellers.org I present examples from Scripture that powerfully indicate that God sanctions the right of founding races and cultures to uphold the general ethnic character of their nation or region, even through rigorous immigration restriction. But He never encourages racist exclusion or oppression within nations. The Old Testament in fact is emphatic on the rights of Gentile visitors and occupants in Israel and commands Jews not to "oppress the sojourner in your midst." (Ex. 23:9)

God created all races to enjoy His earth and freely live, travel and mingle throughout it. He expressly did not create the earth to be partitioned through Israeli-style walls of separation between men. When we, as ostensible Christians, raise our own global version of concrete walls of partition, we show ourselves as empty as the ethically bankrupt state of Israel of those resources of kindness, good will, and accommodation that true Christianity provides.

Let's Pursue Attainable Goals

Let me conclude by illustrating the danger of your dream through a tragic anecdote from American history. In the fall of 1846 a leader of the Donner party, a wagon train immigrating to California, became powerfully convinced that, even with winter coming on, the settlers in his care could make a dash to the south over the Sierras by a route he had heard of but never traversed. His powers of persuasion convinced the wagon train. Like you, he had a strong conviction, even a "dream," that "though logistically difficult" this route would carry those who trusted him to safety in sunny fertile California. How wrong he was! The rest of the story is one of the most macabre tales of human suffering in history, a story of mass starvation, even cannibalism.

What do I think you should do? Continue to write and speak, as you can so powerfully, against Zionism, including making anti-Zionist and anti-immigration videos. In this work, emphasize the practical attainable dream of reestablishing a white and Christian culture and demographics among nations of predominately white European ancestry - yet in a pluralist society.

But if you continue to hold to your dream of globalist separation of the races as a “final solution” to the race conflict, you must thoroughly explain your dream to the world. You should do this in a fairly lengthy article, considering not just reasons why it is feasible, but honestly consider the many reasons skeptics will say it is not.

If you fail to do this the public may reasonably suspect that you have a hidden agenda; that because it is so explosively controversial, you only hint around the edges of this stupendous proposal – that you are content to encourage us to dream your dream and act upon it, but not really understand all that it portends.

Speak to us, David, and dispel our fears.
 
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Of course, there is nothing wrong with blacks, on their own initiative, immigrating to Africa and dedicating themselves through hard work to new lives there.
I'd settle for them just leaving.
 
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Ted Pike is proof that Christianity is incompatible with reality.
 
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Well- which is it? You can't have it both ways.
 
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Some utopian dreams are high-minded in their conception and, although impractical, are at worst harmless. If we invigorate people to aspire and work toward a more loving, compassionate, and just planet, such ambition cannot mislead, be abused or corrupt. But if we aspire to a vision of the world which by necessity will incur horrendous suffering and injustice, we create a monster.
And what have the jews created?

A Monster. And our movement is a reactionary movement to being under the thumb of that monster.

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