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Old December 22nd, 2003 #21
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Will, I don't want to see you leave here, I think everyone has really enjoyed reading your posts. I know I have. I'll talk to Alex.

-Tom
I notice quite a few covingtonista/Covington aliases such as JD Grier, John E Reb, etc., posting to this VNN-Forum. I've heard quite a few lies about Will Williams from the covingtonistas. And yes, I can see how such vermin can really piss some of the Old Guard off.

And if you were to censor such, it is no more than such deserve, since they censor and lie without fear of correction upon their latest jewhoogruppen.

So does this Joe Bishop/Keith Fulton likewise censor and lie upon his jewhoogruppen.

I would suggest that the covingtonistas and others, like Bishop, we shall have with us always under various aliasses, and that deleting such vermin will become an all-day task. Rather, these barnicles and pimples eventually, by their behavior, end up making all of the genuine Resistance activists stronger by building up 'antibodies' that we might need in dealing with internal parasites and subversives. Such are far better marked and branded as for what they are, rather than made to get more wily and better suited to disguising themselves by the blunt tool of censorship.

I ended up asking about Covington back in 1998, when I was suspicious about being 'used' by appearing on Covington's 'Whitespeak' jewhoogruppen. Katya Lane ended up predicting, "Sooner or later you will grow tired of his lies." Well, I must have been stupid because I didn't figure out until reading Covington's latest self-published novel, "Swill of the Jayhawks" that Covington regarded Christian Identity soldiers as nothing but cannonfodder to be given third-rate shitizenship, if that, in Covington's 'NorthWest Republic' of covingtonistas. So yes, I've been on the outs with Covington since then, and duly censored on JD Steer's LieCommission jewhoogruppen.

I much prefer the current method of dealing with covingtonistas -- some guy simply posts "This is Harold Covington posing." This lets people in the know as to what is up, without stooping to Covington's and his critters' level.

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Old December 23rd, 2003 #22
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[QUOTE=MartinLindstedt]I notice quite a few covingtonista/Covington aliases such as JD Grier, John E Reb, etc., posting to this VNN-Forum. I've heard quite a few lies about Will Williams from the covingtonistas. And yes, I can see how such vermin can really piss some of the Old Guard off.

Don't kill famicidal maniacs who attack your good name -- you take 'em to court!
-Rusty Burrell (commentator from the ol' People's Court)

"I would suggest that the covingtonistas and others, like Bishop, we shall have with us always under various aliasses, and that deleting such vermin will become an all-day task. Rather, these barnicles and pimples eventually, by their behavior, end up making all of the genuine Resistance activists stronger by building up 'antibodies' that we might need in dealing with internal parasites and subversives. Such are far better marked and branded as for what they are, rather than made to get more wily and better suited to disguising themselves by the blunt tool of censorship."

"Internal" you say. Only the uninformed, or those who can't distinguish between a lie and the truth would say that Covington is on our side. This issue is as clear as black and white, no gray area whatsoever. Anyone who would tolerate him in our midst is next to worthless. Acceptance or denial of his pestilential influence is a defining issue in our cause. We can not accept insane people of such low character on our side, especially as leaders. I have no problem whatsoever saying here that he needs to be killed, since he will not be committed to a looney bin. Big brother loves Harold Covington -- that's why he used the alias Winston Smith, I suppose, when he first sneaked onto the internet in early 1996.

Building antibodies to a deadly virus takes time, generations usually. We do not have the luxury of that kind of time. And, besides, those of us in the "Old Guard," as you call us, already know quite well that Covington is the enemy of our cause. Newbies to our outreach, however, are succeptible to his deadly contagion, his pestilential influence, unless we who are familiar with his deadly plague of lies inoculate them with the truth to make them immune.

"I ended up asking about Covington back in 1998, when I was suspicious about being 'used' by appearing on Covington's 'Whitespeak' jewhoogruppen. Katya Lane ended up predicting, "Sooner or later you will grow tired of his lies." Well, I must have been stupid because I didn't figure out until reading Covington's latest self-published novel, "Swill of the Jayhawks" that Covington regarded Christian Identity soldiers as nothing but cannonfodder to be given third-rate shitizenship, if that, in Covington's 'NorthWest Republic' of covingtonistas. So yes, I've been on the outs with Covington since then..."

I tried to warn you years ago, Martin -- with incontrovertable facts -- that you had hitched your wagon to a fraud, but you wouldn't listen. Katya was right, but you couldn't hear her then, either. You thought that because Tub o' Lard gave lip service to your double seedline Bible theories, or whatever it is you believe in, and I refused to, that he must be telling the truth and I must be the big fat liar. Covington always counted on attracting followers of Xian Identity who hated those biological racists, those you call "Nazis," that he attacked so venomously. You could somehow dissemble his oft-repeated delusional claim that he was "leader of all National Socialists worldwide."

Regardless, I am pleased to read that you finally recognize Covington as a hopeless liar and the enemy of truth, if only because he stupidly revealed in some novel that he held Identity Xianity in contempt. His "Butler Plan" to move folks like you to the NW was as fraudulent as every other scam he has pulled over the past 30 years.

Covington is a certified delusional paranoid schizophrenic. I have his brother on audiotape talking about his medical history. Forrest Covington wishes his brother could be institutionalized and medicated so he wouldn't be such a threat to normal society.

Speaking of Tub o' Lard's fictional books and of his fictional delusions, Covington is so obsessed with me that after being ordered by the court to never so much as publish my name again, due to his documented malicious libels of me, he wrote a new novel, Fire & Rain, set in his home town Chapel Hill, NC, introducing a Negro cop character named Will White Williams (later killed off by a Jew character, BTW). The court was not amused and held him in criminal contempt of court. He can never "come home" to NC -- thanks to me, not Yahweh -- as he encourages his feckless followers to do under his "Butler Plan," or else he'll be arrested and jailed.
 
Old December 23rd, 2003 #23
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Originally Posted by DozerAgain
"I tried to warn you years ago, Martin -- with incontrovertable facts -- that you had hitched your wagon to a fraud, but you wouldn't listen."

Check out these odd coincidences!

Covington- Fat
Bill White- Fat

Covington- Tricks Martin Lindstedt, despite being warned by others
Bill White - Tricks Alex Linder, despite being warned by others

Martin Lindstedt- Publicly admits he was fooled.
Alex Linder- Admits…well, maybe things aren’t so coincidental after all
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Obesity is no indicator of perfidy, "DozerAgain," though it can be often be symptomatic other deep-seated problems. Covington & White are extremely troubled birds of a feather who just happen to be so fat that they will never get off the ground with their phony scams.

Alex Linder is the real thing, an eagle. His abilities, his innovations, his correct positions on important issues facing the White race are undeniable. His energy is unbounded. He is a diamond in a dark, dark pit of coal -- a treasure to behold. I wish he were more careful to filter out some of the non-essential noise, but I think I understand what he is trying to accomplish through VNN with his wide-open methods.

He shouldn't have defended his republishing of the known enemy, Covington, and he should have never associated VNN with Bill White, but he did. Big deal; that's clearly behind him now. I hope Alex will listen more attentively to people like myself in the future when we see him going where we've already gone and been burnt. Don't expect flawless perfection in a cutting edge production like VNN. Alex is boldly making forward progress and building momentum with VNN during a time when the White resistance movement is in apparent disarray for a number of reasons and having to regroup and reinvent itself. That's the good news!
 
Old December 24th, 2003 #24
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Covington must be quite an important character in the Movement, in view of all the time that everyone spends talking about him.
 
Old December 24th, 2003 #25
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This is Covington.
[chuckle] Nope. 'Fraid not. Guess again.
 
Old December 24th, 2003 #26
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Honest disagreement is certainly to be allowed, but what Covington is doing is utterly crooked and ought not to be tolerated. (etc. etc.)
Christ Almighty, you people are paranoid about Covington! You seem to see him under every bed and behind every bush. Perhaps he comes in and repairs your shoes at night as well, if you leave him gifts of bread and milk?

Jeez, I can't think of any better way to prove my original point. How can we seize control of our own future when we can't even think straight or recognize a personal hatred that has grown to the point of irrational obsession?
 
Old December 24th, 2003 #27
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One of the main problems is lack of will and discipline.
 
Old December 24th, 2003 #28
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Boy oh boy, I sure am glad I have no idea who Harold is. Glad I don't know you yokes who foam at the mouth about "Fist-Fightin'" LOL! Watch out for those old timers young guys, they still got some ass-whippin' in em'. Glad some broad in California didn't take me for "hundreds" of dollars too. What a joke.
 
Old December 24th, 2003 #29
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Default "SAMann1932" - the cowardly Covingtonista

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Covington must be quite an important character in the Movement, in view of all the time that everyone spends talking about him.
No more so than Bill White is some sort of important character because the great sage, Mr. "SAMann1932," harps on this board over and over about White's misdeeds.

A lying fraud is a lying fraud, and should be exposed to new people who are unaware of the fraud's history by those of us who know first hand about his treason to the cause.

The insane lying fraud, former commie Bill White, has been hanging around WN for a couple of years at most. The insane lying fraud and former commie, Harold Covington, on the other hand, has been plying his sleazy black ops for over thirty years -- long before your Mr. White was even born.

You, Mr. "SAMann1932," give up your past, not to mention your true identity, when you write on another VNN thread:
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"We had the same situation to some degree in the old NSWPP. One thing we learned never to do around Koehl was even so much as HINT that some of the highly capable people who served Rockwell and Koehl himself during the early years be invited to return to the Party..."
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That means you served with Harold Covington during his brief stint with Koehl's NSWPP, and that you know full well -- first hand -- that HAC is an insane, lying fraud and that he was expelled from your party because of his sleazy, lying intrigues to undermine your organization back then. You are also well aware of HAC's illegal, so-called "resurrection of Rockwell's NSWPP" in 1994, because you were associated with that scam as well. You hate my guts because I pissed all over that phony Hollywood Nazi parade, even flipping Tubby's original partner in the criminal enterprise, Mr. Kendall, to help me, once he saw the light.

Don't try to play dumb, Mr "SAMann1932." You are a dyed-in-the-wool Covingtonista. You could help to neutralize HAC's lies and scams, but you'd rather come on here and undermine his full exposure and spread more confusion and doubt with your peurile posts. Like Covington, you hate your betters, especially Dr. Pierce, and reinforce HAC's lies about him and others. You are a coward and a loser because you dare not use your given name here. You are part of the problem, Mr. "SAMann1932." Bye-bye!

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Old December 24th, 2003 #30
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Boy oh boy, I sure am glad I have no idea who Harold is. Glad I don't know you yokes who foam at the mouth about "Fist-Fightin'" LOL! Watch out for those old timers young guys, they still got some ass-whippin' in em'. Glad some broad in California didn't take me for "hundreds" of dollars too. What a joke.
Exactly, which as you may recall was the original point of my post. "The Movement" is a joke. Our race needs a William Wallace, and instead we get a Will Williams. There is in my view no realistic hope that this will ever change. We are going to have to find some way to work AROUND our own so-called "Movement" if we are going to save our race.
 
Old December 24th, 2003 #31
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Exactly, which as you may recall was the original point of my post. "The Movement" is a joke. Our race needs a William Wallace, and instead we get a Will Williams. There is in my view no realistic hope that this will ever change. We are going to have to find some way to work AROUND our own so-called "Movement" if we are going to save our race.
it's not about saving the race yet, that's 50 years away if we don't do something, their's still hundreds of millions of white people and believe or not white's have allot more money than jews collectively. It is about throttling the jews however.
Come on don't be such a pessimist, world events are working in our favor, leadership is on its way and the jews are about 10 years away from self destructing and landing in hell. lets be their ushers.
 
Old December 24th, 2003 #32
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Covington must be quite an important character in the Movement, in view of all the time that everyone spends talking about him.
Actually, I've noticed that about HAC. Everyone claims to hate him, everyone calls him every name in the book, and yet we're fascinated with him and the one thing we seem unable to do is ignore him. His C-Grams and his articles are circulated all over the internet, people go out of their way to bring his name up and alegedly attack his ideas and yet no one has really ever produced one jot of proof that any of the accusations against him are true. If Covington really were this bad hat everyone says he is, why don't we simply disregard him? It seems we just CAN'T, which indicates to me that he is a far more significant personality in our Movement than anyone gives him credit for being.
 
Old December 24th, 2003 #33
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Default "Roger Hughes," another new Covingtonista on this board

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Actually, I've noticed that about HAC. Everyone claims to hate him, everyone calls him every name in the book, and yet we're fascinated with him and the one thing we seem unable to do is ignore him. His C-Grams and his articles are circulated all over the internet, people go out of their way to bring his name up and alegedly attack his ideas and yet no one has really ever produced one jot of proof that any of the accusations against him are true.
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You, sir, have not paid attention. You fall for his "perception is everything" motto. and ignore the fact that I exposed his lies in a libel suit that he ran from like a scared rabbit, preferring instead to try 'Williams v. Covington' on the internet where he could confuse people like you, where he would not have to submit to telling the truth under oath and under penalty of perjury for making false claims, or have to follow established rules of evidence to prove his outrageous claims that I'm "John Doe #2" of OKC-bombing fame, a mailer of package bombs, an arsonist, a serial murderer, a thief, a wife-beating queer, "FBI Special Agent Finchley," etc., etc.

The best defense in a libel suit is that the accused libelee told the truth about the libelant. Why could your Mr. Covington not face his accuser to prove his claims? It's not my place to prove the negative, that I'm not "John Doe #2," it's Covington's job as the defender of his claims to prove that I am what he claims. You, sir, like so many other uncritical boobs, can't handle the truth.

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If Covington really were this bad hat everyone says he is, why don't we simply disregard him? It seems we just CAN'T, which indicates to me that he is a far more significant personality in our Movement than anyone gives him credit for being.
You are either a blind fool or a Covingtonista, or Covington himself, "Roger Hughes," -- I suspect one of the latter. If the former, you would disregard a rabid dog in your neighborhood, until he's gnawing on your own leg, that is.

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Old December 24th, 2003 #34
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Hac uses that name on yahoo.
Gee, imagine that, Harold Covington using a phony name to make his phony case about what an awesome maximum Leader he is. Who would believe such outrageous behavior coming from the self-proclaimed "Leader of all National Socialists worldwide?"

I don't subscribe to any Yahooda gossip lists, much less any of Tub o' Lard's various sucker lists, so I wouldn't know what fake names he's using these days. Thanks for the confirmation!
 
Old December 25th, 2003 #35
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You are either a blind fool or a Covingtonista, or Covington himself, ]
Will, that's just plain stupid. You KNOW who I am, a former "comrade" and member of the cyber-cell from about five years ago. Man, are you losing it, or what?
 
Old December 26th, 2003 #36
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You are either a blind fool or a Covingtonista, or Covington himself, "Roger Hughes,"
And you, sir, are a kook.
 
Old December 26th, 2003 #37
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Default Joe Bishop aka "Keith Fulton" aka "Roger Hughes"

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Will, that's just plain stupid. You KNOW who I am, a former "comrade" and member of the cyber-cell from about five years ago. Man, are you losing it, or what?
Yeah, Joe, I know who you are now. Why do you pretend to be somebody else? That's sort of a chickenshit thing for you to do, don't you think? All you Covingtonistas do that. How many of his "supporters" do you play?

Are you still running your tiny, closed "free speech" Instauration e-list (rip-off of Wilmot Robertson's Instauration)? You are by far the biggest control freak I ever met in all my years of dealing with pro-White activists, and whiney, too, like some little girl who wants to be in charge of all the other little girls when they play tea party with their doll babies.

You're very familiar with the rap sheet on "Weird Harold" Covington, yet you are such a peculiar nut that you prefer supporting his lies and scams over making productive contributions to the cause. What a total waste of knowledge and talent!
 
Old December 26th, 2003 #38
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Yeah, Joe, I know who you are now. Why do you pretend to be somebody else? That's sort of a chickenshit thing for you to do, don't you think? All you Covingtonistas do that. How many of his "supporters" do you play?

Are you still running your tiny, closed "free speech" Instauration e-list (rip-off of Wilmot Robertson's Instauration)? You are by far the biggest control freak I ever met in all my years of dealing with pro-White activists, and whiney, too, like some little girl who wants to be in charge of all the other little girls when they play tea party with their doll babies.

You're very familiar with the rap sheet on "Weird Harold" Covington, yet you are such a peculiar nut that you prefer supporting his lies and scams over making productive contributions to the cause. What a total waste of knowledge and talent!
Does anyone besides me get a kind of creepy feeling off rhis guy "White Will?"
 
Old December 26th, 2003 #39
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Does anyone besides me get a kind of creepy feeling off this guy "White Will?"
I was going to make a comment here, I posted and edited it several times and I decided not to. The fact is, Lew, I find this whole topic DISTASTEFUL. Slightly sickening. There is this sickly atmosphere of decay, a kind of toxic cloud over the whole business, and I find that although I have very decided opinions on the subject, I honestly don't want to dirty my hands with it. Wallowing in this crap makes one soiled.

I've often wondered if that maybe isn't the true agenda with a lot of this horse shit we see, to make the whole Movement so crazy, so repulsive, so tainted with abnormality and madness and nauseating mindless hate that normal people simply refuse to become involved? I mean, what is all this horse shit in aid of? What racial nationalist purpose does it solve? Why, exactly must we listen to it and wallow in it and plunge our snouts into it?

I say all this because I have noticed since working with JD on Truthcom that the one thing these anti-Covington obsessives demand is that NOWHERE on the internet is allowed to be free of their bullshit. EVERY White racial nationalist e-group or BBS or website or whatever MUST periodically vomit out this mindless, stupid, and completely unjustified hatred against one man. All of us must kowtow to the anti-Covington freak show. All of us must bow down to this insanity as THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN ALL THE MOVEMENT or else we become "Covingtonistas" and we get slandered and attacked and abused by these fucking KOOKS!!!

Now see what they've done, God dammit! They've got ME ranting and raving now.

And you know...maybe that's the object of it all? To get us all ranting and raving about one single UNIMPORTANT subject, i.e. whether one man is a devil or a saint? Interesting way to divert us all from the real issues, eh?

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