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I have already uploaded some documents here.

For example, about the assistance of the USSR to Poland - https://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=556771

Also about the food aid of the Soviet army to the inhabitants of Berlin and the protection of German cultural values - https://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=557905



I believe that this information tradition should be continued







USSR foreign policy archive

Fund - V. M. Molotov secretariat

Inventory #7
Portfolio #63
Inventory #
Document case #96

USSR MFA

CASE

People's Commissariat of Foreign Affairs of the USSR

Secret

The secretariat of the People's Commissar comrade Molotov

1945

Translations of documents from the "government" of Grand Admiral Dönitz and the High Command of the German Armed Forces.

Completed - 30.VI

On 106 sheets









This is a document usage sheet. It records who used the documents.









Inventory of secret documents in the case.

Incoming #9710

From whom or to whom - comrade Kuznetsov 30.VI

Summary - Translations of documents from the "government" of Grand Admiral Dönitz and the High Command of the German Armed Forces.

Pages 1-106









People's Commissariat of Defense of the USSR

Secret - copy #2

Main Intelligence Directorate of the Red Army

June 30, 1945

#1514184

Moscow city


To comrade V. M. Molotov

I report translations of documents from the "government" of Grand Admiral Dönitz and the High Command of the German Armed Forces.

The documents were submitted to the commission of Major General Trusov by the German Colonel General Jodl.

Appendix: The above mentioned on 105 sheets.


Chief of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Red Army
Colonel General - F. Kuznetsov


Printed in 5 copies
#1 - To comrade Stalin
#2 - To comrade Molotov
#3 - To comrade Bulganin
#4 - To comrade Antonov
#5 - in a case









Translations of German documents submitted to the commission of Major General Trusov by German Colonel General Jodl

Content

1. Diary of the meetings of the "government" of Grand Admiral Dönitz for May 2-17, 1945.
2. Recording of the conversation between Colonel General Jodl and the American Major General Rooks and the British Brigadier General Ford.
3. Recording of the conversation between Lieutenant General Anderson and German Major General Dethleffsen.
4. Colonel General Jodl's order to the military commandants of Flensburg-Glucksburg dated 05.21.45 and an accompanying note to the order addressed to the chairman of the Russian control commission.
5. Organization of the "government" of Dönitz.
6. Registration of cases at the high command of the armed forces.
7. Address of the Minister of the "Government" of Dönitz to the German people.
8. On the legal status of Hitler's successor according to the German constitution.
9. On the reasons that make it difficult for the German command to present comprehensive data of interest to the Russian commission.









Appendix: Diagram of the organization of the High Command of the German Armed Forces before December 1941 and after December 1941.

10. Organization of the High Command of the German Armed Forces until 10 May 1945.
11. Radio-telephone communication scheme at 19.05.45.
12. Recording of the conversation between Field Marshal Keitel and Colonel-General Serov on 08.05.45.
13. Report of German Lieutenant Colonel Maisier on a trip to the headquarters of Marshal of the Soviet Union ZHUKOV.
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DIARY OF MEETINGS for 02.05.45

10:30 - Captivity

Present: Grand Admiral, Graf Schwerin von Krosigk, Gauleiter Wegener

Exchange of views on major political issues

The military situation is hopeless. In the current situation, the main goal of the government should be to save as many Germans as possible from the Bolsheviks. But as long as the Anglo-Saxons prevent this, we must continue to fight them.
All military and political activities must contribute to the preservation of the German people. Since the Russians are not interested in this, but rather strive to destroy it, it is necessary to continue the struggle on the Eastern Front by all means. At the same time, given the futility of further struggle, it is advisable to stop military operations against the Anglo-Saxons in order to prevent unnecessary casualties caused by air terror.
The implementation of this plan is opposed by the demand for complete and unconditional surrender. This requirement is impracticable, since by doing so millions of German soldiers and civilians would have been placed under the rule of the Russians.









This requirement is impracticable, since by doing so millions of German soldiers and civilians would have been placed under the rule of the Russians.
Therefore, our goal is - surrender only on the Western Front. But since the political connection of the allies with each other does not allow us to carry out this plan in an official way (through higher authorities), then we should try to carry it out through the army groups and gradually. To do this, it is advisable to use the already established relationship. The Reichskommissar of Holland, who, as a result of negotiations, managed to ensure the supply of food to the entire Dutch civilian population, will be immediately summoned to headquarters.

11:00

Government formation issue

Present: Grand Admiral, Graf Schwerin von Krosigk, Gauleiter Wegener

The Grand Admiral discusses the contents of the last radiogram of the Reich Chancellery of 01.05.45 #1446/1 signed by Goebbels and Bormann, which contains instructions from the Fuehrer on the formation of a new government. This radiogram contradicts a radiogram dated 30.04.45 #1807/30 ag 14, according to which the Grand Admiral must personally dispose of all events that may arise. Having received these powers, he can act further, especially since the current situation makes the last instructions impracticable.
Then the issue of creating a new government and its location are discussed.









Then the issue of creating a new government and its location are discussed. The formation of a cabinet of ministers is not so necessary, but it is advisable to appoint a foreign minister. The Minister of Finance Graf Schwerin von Krosigk should assume the duties of this minister.
The seat of the newly created government is still the Northern Region. When will the government move to the South and whether it will be expedient in general - the situation will show.

11:50

Discussion of the Bohemian issue

The same persons and the Reichsfuehrer SS are involved.

The military situation is favorable. The territory can be held for another 3 weeks, but this will depend on the supply and availability of ammunition.
The political situation is unstable, since internal political factors are not clear and, moreover, we do not know the decision taken on this issue at the Yalta conference.
For further consideration of the Bohemian issue, three points are decisive:
1. Rescue of the armies of Scherner and Rendulich.
2. Rescue of the German population.
3. Will there be any political advantage from further holding the territory.

The Grand Admiral insists on the immediate evacuation of the entire German population. However, discussion of this issue is postponed because:









However, discussion of this issue is postponed because:
a) evacuation will lead to significant casualties among the population;
b) keeping Bohemia in our hands may still be essential;
c) it is necessary to probe the political ground before making any decision.

For these reasons, the Reich Protector and Chief of Staff of Army Group Scherner are immediately summoned to headquarters.

12:45

Conversation with the Minister of Foreign Affairs

13:10

Conversation with the Reichsfuehrer SS

16:00

Situation

The most serious events were the breakthrough of the British from Lauenburg to Lübeck and the breakthrough of the Americans through Schwerin to Wismar.
These actions closed the last gate through which the stream of refugees rushed from Mecklenburg and Pomerania to the area that is in our hands. The continuation of hostilities against the Anglo-American troops in the Northern Region is now pointless, since these actions were aimed precisely at keeping these gates. It was decided to start negotiations with Montgomery as soon as possible.









It was decided to start negotiations with Montgomery as soon as possible. This was entrusted to Admiral of the Fleet von Friedeburg.

19:00

Report of a minister of the former government

20:00

Moving to new headquarters in Flensburg

21:00

Holtenauer Hochbrücke. Grand Admiral gives verbal instructions to Fleet Admiral von Friedeburg.
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DIARY OF MEETINGS for 03.05.45

04:00

During the night and morning, there are a number of reports of the continued rapid advance of the British in northern Germany, but the reports cannot be verified.
The Grand Admiral orders to keep the Kaiser-Wilhelm Canal by all means in order to provide the government with freedom of action and negotiations.

09:30

Discussion of the Bohemian issue

Present: Reich Protector, Minister of State Frank, Minister of Foreign Affairs, Field Marshal Keitel, Colonel General Jodl, Gauleiter Wegener, Reich Minister Speer

Bohemia is on a verge of a revolution. It is impossible to keep the protectorate for a long time politically or militarily. It is still possible to find a way out of the situation through negotiations. The main goal is to save the German population in the area.
It is necessary to carry out the following activities:
a) try to defuse the internal political atmosphere by declaring Prague an open city;
b) try out foreign policy opportunities by sending one German and one Czech representatives to Eisenhower.









b) try out foreign policy opportunities by sending one German and one Czech representatives to Eisenhower.

At the same time, the issue of the possibility of evacuating the government to Bohemia was discussed. The Grand Admiral could not agree to this proposal of the High Command of the Armed Forces and the Reichsfuehrer SS, since Bohemia lies outside the borders of Germany and its political situation is very unstable.

11:00

Discussion of the situation in Norway and Denmark

Present: the same persons and Commissioner for Denmark Best, Colonel General Lindemann, Reich Commissioner Terboven, General Böhme

Norway. The military situation is favorable. The territory can be held and, in addition, there are large food reserves. The commander is firmly convinced of the defenses of his territory.
The political situation is currently stable, since no one wants to die on the eve of the expected defeat of Germany and on the eve of the end of the war. Therefore, there is hardly a possibility of an uprising.

Denmark. The military situation has strengthened. The fighting efficiency of the troops is not broken, despite the death of the Fuhrer. Danes are afraid of hostilities on their territory. Despite a strong resistance movement, an uprising in the country can only be expected in the event of an assault from outside. The situation is somewhat complicated by the presence of a large number of refugees.









The situation is somewhat complicated by the presence of a large number of refugees.

Events for both countries. Maintain calm and order in them, as internal unrest can greatly complicate our situation. Act energetically and firmly, but in some cases make concessions.

12:00

Field Marshal Keitel's speech

The defensive structures of the Kiel naval fortress are completely inadequate for land defense. The consolidated regiments of the fortress were transferred to other fronts. There are no soldiers or weapons to defend Kiel. Therefore, the Grand Admiral allows Kiel to be declared an open city.

12:30

Present: Admiral Meisel, Admiral Godt

Situation assessment

15:30

Dutch issue

Present: Reichskommissar Dr. Seyss-Inquart, Foreign Minister, Gauleiter Wegener

The Reichskommissar reports on his negotiations with the enemy, which proceeded quite satisfactorily, since both sides were interested in this.









The Reichskommissar reports on his negotiations with the enemy, which proceeded quite satisfactorily, since both sides were interested in this. However, during the negotiations, he got the impression that the plan of partial surrender is hardly feasible. Despite this, we should try to resolve this issue.
Our goal in Holland: to complete a combat mission, but not to flood the country.

17:00

Situation in the south of Germany

Present: Secretary of State Heiler, Foreign Minister, Field Marshal Keitel, Gauleiter Wegener

The situation in southern Germany is characterized by the following points:
a) no strong power. Order is maintained only in the Upper Danube region;
b) decomposition is observed in the troops. Soldiers, workers from the Eastern regions, Hungarians, criminals who escaped from prisons roam everywhere;
c) the population is hostile towards the troops. Bavarian flags appear;
d) the Tyrolean Volkssturm is the Austrian resistance movement. There are skirmishes between Volkssturm and German soldiers.

The putsch in Munich, undertaken although with clearly insufficient means cannot be regarded as a separate phenomenon, but should be regarded as a harbinger of more serious protests.









The putsch in Munich, undertaken although with clearly insufficient means cannot be regarded as a separate phenomenon, but should be regarded as a harbinger of more serious protests. Epp was told all this.
Kesselring reports in a telegram that Army Group "Southwest" accepted the surrender on his behalf. He believes that his troops are also unable to hold on any longer and therefore requests permission to independently enter into negotiations with the Anglo-American command.
Permission has been given to him, for we must rejoice at every opportunity for the occupation of our territory by American, but not Russian, troops.
Most difficult situation in Scherner's army. The general situation forces him to surrender, but it is impossible, since in this case the entire army will be completely at the mercy of the Russians.

18:30

Special task for Schellenberg

Present: Reichsfuehrer SS, Foreign Minister, Gauleiter Wegener, Gruppenfuehrer Schellenberg

A proposal has been made to resolve the Norwegian issue through the mediation of Sweden. Schellenberg is tasked with finding out the possibilities for this, but is not authorized to negotiate.

20:00

Reichsfuehrer SS

23:00

Fleet Admiral von Friedeburg returns from Montgomery headquarters to report the results of the negotiations.
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DIARY OF MEETINGS for 04.05.45

09:00

Friedeburg's report on the results of negotiations with Montgomery

Present: Friedeburg, Minister of Foreign Affairs, Field Marshal Keitel, Colonel General Jodl, Lieutenant Colonel Brudermüller

Montgomery demands the unconditional surrender of all German armed forces in Holland, Friesland, Schleswig and Denmark. All soldiers traveling from the East and wishing to surrender will be treated as prisoners of war. He rejected a discussion of the issue of the civilian population (refugees).
In addition, he assured me that German prisoners of war would not be extradited to the Russians.
The positive aspects in this solution of the issue are: partial surrender, the possibility of continuing the struggle on the Eastern Front, the possibility of continuing the transfer of German soldiers and the German population by sea and by air to the west.
The negative aspects include the voluntary abandonment of the rest of the Netherlands and Denmark. However, it should be borne in mind that after the loss of Germany, it would be impossible to keep these areas. A stubborn defense would also not bring us military successes, but, on the contrary, would contribute to an even greater loss of our prestige and would lead to even greater political complications.









The Grand Admiral authorizes the signing of the proposed clauses with the condition that a clause on loyal attitude towards prisoners of war is introduced.
At the same time, the high command of the armed forces was tasked with organizing the orderly surrender of weapons.
Fleet Admiral Friedeburg is instructed (after he concludes the agreement with Montgomery) to establish contact with Eisenhower in order to further carry out a partial surrender.
He must first explain to Eisenhower the reasons why complete surrender on all fronts is impossible.
In accordance with the chosen political line (orientation towards the Western Front), the Grand Admiral orders:
Stop the submarine war by preventing pressure from the enemy. Remove all equipment and apparatus from submarines. Fuel used for transporting refugees and in industry. Avoid conflicts by all means in Norway. Free the Belgian King.

11:20

Speer's report

11:45

Report of the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy

11:55

Report by Reichsfuehrer Healthcare Dr. Conti

1) The Flensburg Red Cross is ready to work.

2) I intend, even in the present conditions, to organize the work of the Red Cross, strictly in accordance with the provisions of the Geneva Convention.









12:25

Present: Reichsfuehrer SS, Minister of Foreign Affairs, Reichskommissar of Holland

Discussion of the issue of surrender and further actions. The return of the Reichskommissar of Holland was delayed by bad weather and, in addition, the specific assignment he received on 04.05.1945 lost its validity. But the challenges posed by the cessation of hostilities in the area require him to quickly return to his duties.

16:00

Field Marshal Keitel's speech

17:00

Bohemian issue

Present: Lieutenant General von Natzmer, The Chief of Staff [Army Group Centre] (?), Reich Protector Frank, Minister of Foreign Affairs, Field Marshal Keitel, Colonel General Jodl, Gauleiter Wegener

There have been no significant changes compared to the previous day. Lieutenant General von Natzmer believes that his army is able to resist for no more than two weeks. He does not recommend voluntarily withdrawing troops, since the possibility of saving them is more likely during the struggle, even in the event of a forced retreat. The resolution of the previous day remains in force, according to which it was decided to wait for the results of political events. However, the army must be prepared for a possible withdrawal.









17:45

Present: Minister of Foreign Affairs, Gauleiter Wegener

Discussion on the creation of a new government and the formation of a cabinet of ministers.

18:15

Report of the Secretary of state Bohle

18:30

Reich Minister Seldte's report

19:40

We have received a radiogram from the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy about the signing of the agreement. The truce in Holland, Friesland, Schleswig and Denmark begins 05.05.1945 at 00:00. Then the Grand Admiral gives instructions to the Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces, military commandants and submarine commanders on the loyal implementation of the points of the agreement.
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DIARY OF MEETINGS for 05.05.45

09:15

Foreign Minister's report on surrender.

09:30

Report of Captain 3rd Rank Kuhnke about a state of the submarine fleet in Flensburg.

10:15

Admiral Wagner's report on the armistice negotiations.

10:45

Admiral Hoffmann is dispatched to General Kinzel to resolve naval issues with Montgomery.

12:00

Foreign Minister's report. Admiral of the Fleet von Friedeburg is authorized by radiogram to send a message to General Eisenhower about the end of the submarine war and, taking this fact as the basis of negotiations, to emphasize our political course.

13:00

Announcement of the signing of an armistice with Montgomery

Present: Fleet Admiral Wagner, Minister of Foreign Affairs, Field Marshal Keitel, Colonel General Jodl, Reichsfuehrer SS, Gauleiter Wegener

Newly introduced clauses

1) The "including ships" clause was was a crucial point for Montgomery.









However, he allowed transports with refugees to follow their destination points.
The order not to sink a single ship (including warships) was emphasized once again.
2) The issue of an extraterritorial enclave for the government was not raised, since it can only be resolved by the highest authorities.

14:00

Colonel General Löhr, by telephone, requests permission to negotiate with Alexander. The goal of the negotiations is to save Austria from Bolshevism, but on condition of its separation from Germany.
The permission was given because this plan is in line with the government's policy.

16:00

Reich Minister Speer's Report

17:45

Speeches by the Minister for Foreign Affairs and the Reichskommissar of Holland

18:30

Present: Minister of Foreign Affairs, Minister Speer

Discussion of the issue of creating a government and the formation of a cabinet of ministers.
Opportunities for government activities are currently very limited. It is impossible to foresee the further development of circumstances.









At present, our main task is to resolve as correctly as possible all the issues arising in connection with the end of the war and thereby create a basis for work in new conditions (in the event that our enemies do not intend to introduce a new form of government and administration). Therefore, the grand admiral forms only a business cabinet, without appointing ministers and avoiding any formality.
Graf Schwerin von Krosigk is entrusted with the overall leadership and simultaneous performance of the duties of Minister of Foreign Affairs and Minister of Finance;
the duties of the Minister of the Interior and the Minister of Culture and Education are entrusted to Dr. Stuckart;
the duties of the Minister of the Industry and Production are entrusted to Speer;
the duties of the Minister of the Food and Agriculture are entrusted to Backe;
the duties of the Minister of the Labour are entrusted to Seldte;
the duties of the Minister of the Transport and the Minister of the Postal Affairs are entrusted to Dorpmüller.
The formation of the cabinet is reported to General Kinzel, who is to hand it over to Field Marshal Montgomery and General Eisenhower.

19:00

Present: Minister of Foreign Affairs, Gauleiter Wegener

The activities of the Werwolf organization are prohibited, as in the current conditions it will only complicate the implementation of political plans.
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DIARY OF MEETINGS for 06.05.45

09:00

Present: Field Marshal Keitel, Colonel General Jodl, Gauleiter Wegener

Eisenhower insists on immediate, unconditional and simultaneous surrender on all fronts.
The troops must remain in their positions. The sinking and damage of ships and aircraft must be stopped immediately. The high command must ensure the complete safety of weapons and equipment, otherwise vigorous action will be taken and the perpetrators will be punished.
These conditions are unacceptable, because we cannot transfer all the armies of the Eastern Front to the power of the Russians. These conditions cannot be met because not a single soldier of the Eastern Front will obey orders to cease hostilities and lay down their arms.
On the other hand, the hopeless military situation, victims of air raids, losses as a result of military operations and the consciousness of the inevitable defeat of the still-fighting army require a quick solution to the issue of capitulation.
But since this dilemma cannot be resolved, it was decided to explain to General Eisenhower the reasons why a complete surrender is impossible and to emphasize that a partial surrender to the Anglo-German troops can be accepted immediately.









But since this dilemma cannot be resolved, it was decided to explain to General Eisenhower the reasons why a complete surrender is impossible and to emphasize that a partial surrender to the Anglo-German troops can be accepted immediately. This task is assigned to Colonel General Jodl.

10:00

Information about the uprising in Prague arrives

Thus Frank's attempts failed. An immediate order is given to the troops of the Eastern Front to retreat to the west as soon as possible in order to save the German soldiers.

10:40

General Kinzel and Lieutenant Colonel Wiedemann return from Montgomery's headquarters

The Grand Admiral assesses the situation and explains why complete surrender is impossible and that the only true path for Germany is to orient to the West.

11:00

Present: The Chief of Naval Defense as Deputy Commander-in-Chief of the Navy, Admiral Wagner

Situation assessment and instructions for the Navy:
a) save as many people as possible from the Russians;
b) loyally comply with the terms of the armistice with Montgomery, taking into account the interests of Germany.

12:30

Foreign Minister's report (look at 13:30)

13:00

Present: Field Marshal Keitel, General Kinzel









Report on the planned formation of the British military administration in Northern Germany.

13:30 (?) [in the original again 13:00]

Present: Minister of Foreign Affairs, Reich minister Speer

Discussion of the government tasks

The tasks that should be currently resolved: ending of the war, negotiations with Eisenhower, solving of the Norwegian problem, the withdrawal of Scherner's troops to the West. Our subsequent actions will depend on the countermeasures of the enemy. The main requirement is restraint. We should not seek trust, impose ourselves, but we should behave with honor and dignity.

13:40

Resignation of Gauleiter Lohse

17:00

Resignation of the Reichsfuehrer SS

The Grand Admiral resigns from his duties as Minister of the Interior, Commander of the Reserve Army, and Chief of Police, and thus considers himself to have resigned from this government.

17:50 (?) [in the original 13:50]

Field Marshal von Busch's speech

18:00

Foreign Minister announces his forthcoming report

20:00

According to foreign reports, the 9th Army (Busse) and most of the 12th Army (Wenck) withdrew to the west and surrendered to the Americans.
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DIARY OF MEETINGS for 07.05.45

00:15

Received a radiogram from Colonel General Jodl from Eisenhower's headquarters at 21:45 - 06.05.45:
"General Eisenhower insists that the signing take place even today. Otherwise, the fronts of the allies will be closed, even for individuals wishing to surrender, and all negotiations will be terminated.
I see no other way out of the situation other than signing this act. I ask for immediate authority to sign the surrender. From this moment the act of surrender will take effect. The hostilities will end at 00:00 - 09.05.45 German time.
Signature - J o d l"

Discussion of the radiogram

1. Eisenhower's demand is an absolute blackmail, since if it is not fulfilled, all Germans located east of the American front line will be left in the hands of the Russians.
2. Colonel-General Jodl, who a day ago vigorously objected to complete surrender, based on the impossibility of accurately fulfilling its requirements, apparently has serious reasons for talking about complete surrender as the only possible way out of the situation.









3. The deadline 00:00 - 09.05.45 gives us the opportunity to gain time (about 48 hours), which will allow us to save most of the troops of the Eastern Front.
For these reasons, the Grand Admiral authorizes General Jodl to sign the surrender.

09:15

The field Marshal reports the surrender.
The position of all army groups except Courland gives hope for the salvation of most of the troops, while only a very limited number of soldiers can be sent from Courland by sea.

10:55

Present: Minister of Foreign Affairs, General Field Marshal Keitel

Terms of surrender received from Colonel General Jodl

The following previously unmentioned points are especially striking:
a) simultaneous surrender on the Eastern and Western Fronts;
b) simultaneous surrender in all theaters of war, including Norway;
c) all troops remain in their positions from the moment the surrender takes effect.

12:45

The Minister of Foreign Affairs informs the German people of the armistice in order to get ahead of the enemy and thereby preserve order among the people.









The Minister of Foreign Affairs informs the German people of the armistice in order to get ahead of the enemy and thereby preserve order among the people.

16:00

The return of General Jodl and his report on the negotiations

Present: Minister of Foreign Affairs, General Field Marshal Keitel, Commander-in-Chief of the Navy, Gauleiter Wegener, Fleet Admiral Wagner

Eisenhower is very rude and does not make any concessions. He forces our consent with threats to close the border (even for individual surrendering prisoners) and threatens to subject the still unoccupied northern part of Germany to air raids.
To this end, they are delaying the occupation of Schleswig, and if we reject Eisenhower's demands, the chances of saving the armies of the Eastern Front will be further reduced.
The general opinion after the discussion of this issue was that it was impossible to do otherwise.

19:00

The Minister of Foreign Affairs reports on the further tasks of the government.
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DIARY OF MEETINGS for 08.05.45

On the evening of 07.05.45 and this morning, the Grand Admiral, together with the Minister of Foreign Affairs, Reich Minister Backe, Gauleiter Wegener, General Kinzel, Admiral Bürkner, Admiral Wagner discussed the feasibility and possible right to exist of this government.
The Fuhrer died on 30.04.45. With this death, he gave his last debt to his people. He realized that it was no longer possible to change the end of the war with weapons. He could not take a different path and therefore sacrificed himself so that another person could end the war. This was the meaning of the task entrusted to the Grand Admiral.
With the signing of the surrender, this task was completed and it was the last independent action of the government. Now it no longer has any decisive rights. The country is completely occupied, the enemy rules it.
Wouldn't it be right for us to resign voluntarily under such conditions?

There are the following points for our voluntary resignation:
1) the government's task of ending the war has been accomplished;
2) Germany is completely occupied. The government does not have any rights within the country, as well as the rights of its representation abroad;
3) de facto the government is insignificant. It is deprived of the right to express its will, and even more so the right to rule;









4) in the present conditions it is possible that the enemy uses some ministers for its own purposes, but in any case it will not give any rights to the government as a whole;
5) the people are mostly indifferent to these issues. They are happy that the war is over and each person cares about the future only for personal reasons. We don't even know if the German people at all know about the existence of the Dönitz government (with the exception of the Flensburg population) and whether they recognize this government;
6) the further fate of the government is completely in the hands of the enemy, who can, not recognizing it, use it for its own purposes, or simply keep silent about its existence. The enemy can terminate the existence of this government by force or expose it to a laughing stock in front of the whole world, since even in Germany itself, the enemy has completely the press, radio and all means of propaganda;
7) preserving our personal honor and the honor of the empire requires our resignation.

Against our voluntary resignation there are the following points:
1) the empire interests;
2) some governing body must remain in order to prevent the complete collapse of the country;
3) the government must be with the people and have a common destiny with it. We cannot leave the people to their fate in such a difficult moment.









4) to use the slightest opportunity to alleviate the fate of the people, discarding all personal interests;
5) the personality of the grand admiral is for many people a guarantee of order, support in this chaos of events and a hope for the future;
6) the Grand Admiral at the head of state is the ideal and role model for youth;
7) vigorous solving of many issues is necessary in order to prevent famine and collapse in the country. These primarily include issues of supply, transport, agriculture and industry, finance and others;
8) it is possible that the enemy itself is interested in the existence of our government in order to:
a) keeping order;
b) to avoid responsibility for all subsequent events according to the old tradition;
c) it is possible that the political situation will develop in such a way that the existence of a small but strong Germany would be desirable for our enemies.

Discussing all the pros and cons leads to the following solution:
The resignation of the government is an irreparable step, so it should not be taken too hasty. But since there is a danger of being jesters in the eyes of the whole world, which will nullify the existing moments against our resignation, it is imperative that our resignation be timely.
First of all, it is necessary to closely monitor the course of political events so as not to miss the moment when our resignation will be timely.









First of all, it is necessary to closely monitor the course of political events so as not to miss the moment when our resignation will be timely. It is possible that Churchill's speech, scheduled for 15:00, will resolve this issue and the government will no longer have the opportunity to resign while maintaining its dignity. Therefore, the Grand Admiral decides (in connection with the acceptance of the unconditional surrender) to openly declare the situation to the German people and the world community.

12:30

Grand Admiral's speech on Flensburg Radio

13:30

Admiral Warzecha's report:
an English admiral in Kiel forbids the unloading of transports arriving from the East. His actions are contrary to the terms of the truce. The necessary steps are being taken to clarify this circumstance.

16:00

Admiral Godt and Captain 2nd Rank Hessler arrived from Norway.

16:30

Foreign Minister's report.

Churchill's speech was short and informative. He did not touch the issue of the existence of this government. In this regard, the decision on our resignation was postponed.
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DIARY OF MEETINGS for 09.05.45

10:00

Field Marshal Keitel reports the signing of the surrender.

11:00

The Grand Admiral's address to the Flensburg garrison officer corps.

12:00

Present: The Secretary of State Wegener, Admiral Wagner

Discussion of government issues. The basis for the continued existence of the German people is its unity, created by National Socialism.

12:30

Admiral of the Fleet von Friedeburg reports on the signing of the surrender.

13:00

Lieutenant Colonel de Maizière informs from Courland that the troops are perfectly fulfilling the terms of the armistice.

17:15

Meeting of the Minister of Foreign Affairs with the Secretary of State Wegener.

18:15

Vice Admiral Bürkner reports on the signing of the surrender.

The following picture emerges from various reports on the signing of the act of surrender in Berlin:









a) Berlin is a huge heap of ruins;
b) limited cooperation between allies;
c) the attitude of Russians towards the civilian population is very discreet. This attitude seem to be based on deeper reasons. Due to the decreasing population and the stable food situation in the German regions occupied by the Russians, it will not be difficult to create tolerant living conditions. The western regions of Germany, which have always been consuming regions and which are highly overpopulated, are threatened with famine and complete collapse, which is the best soil for the emergence of communism. Stalin can take advantage of these contradictions.
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DIARY OF MEETINGS for 10.05.45

09:45

Present: Commander-in-Chief of the Navy, chief of staff for the leadership of the war at sea, Admiral Wagner

1. The terms of surrender include the drafting of documents. The Commander-in-Chief of the Navy asks the question to what extent this condition should be met. We decided to voluntarily transfer everything we have. But keep duplicates of all important documents for our use.
2. Recently, among the SS men, cases of expressing a desire to be transferred to the navy have become more frequent.
The Commander-in-Chief of the Navy has not yet given his consent to this.
The admiral agrees that the high command of the armed forces will give uniform instructions in this regard for the ground forces, naval and air forces.
3. In some places, the occupation authorities have banned the wearing of swastika badges.
Currently, the admiral does not intend to issue an order to cancel these badges. The order will follow only after the urgent demand of the supreme occupation authorities.

10:30

Report by General Field Marshal Keitel.









10:45

Secretary of State Wegener decided that from the moment he left Berlin, he would look through and select all the documents in order to have them with him in case of drawing up protocols and for archives, as well as to resolve emerging state and legal issues.
The admiral approved of this.

12:00

General Field Marshal Keitel reports that the commander of the 11th British Tank Brigade demands that the military flag posted in front of the headquarters be immediately removed.
The requirement must be fulfilled. This example shows that in some cases it would be more beneficial for the German armed forces to carry out preliminary measures without waiting for an order from the occupying authorities.

12:30

Foreign Minister's report.

12:45

Colonel General Jodl awarded with "Oak Leaves."

13:00

Present: General Field Marshal Keitel, Admiral Wagner

Colonel Mayer-Detering reports on his visit to General Field Marshal Schörner. The purpose of the visit was to verbally familiarize General Field Marshal Schörner with the reasons that made us declare a general surrender and persuade him for its loyal fulfillment.









The purpose of the visit was to verbally familiarize General Field Marshal Schörner with the reasons that made us declare a general surrender and persuade him for its loyal fulfillment. General Field Marshal Schörner, having a clear understanding of the general situation, issued the most stringent orders regarding the fulfillment of the terms of surrender. However, until the entry into force of the clauses of surrender, the withdrawal of troops to the west continues, however, it, too, was also carried out at a fast pace before that. At the same time, Schörner warns that due to the uprising in Bohemia, communication does not work, and, therefore, the implementation of leadership, starting with the division headquarters and above, is impossible. Therefore, it should be feared that some units do not receive orders, or that the commanders of the lower units will independently withdraw their units to the west. Eisenhower's radiogram confirms these concerns. Once again, the cessation of hostilities was officially announced on the radio.
Eisenhower was briefed on the state of the communications network.
No incidents were reported in the afternoon.
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DIARY OF MEETINGS for 11.05.45

10:00

Presentation of a memorandum to the allied countries

Present: Minister of Foreign Affairs, The Secretary of State Wegener

The structure of the state and the life of the people in a whole series of important economic and domestic political issues require energetic leadership. Otherwise, the country is threatened by famine, unrest and the radicalization of the popular masses.
Until now, it is known that the enemy envisages only military control for certain occupation zones. This problem can be solved if there are good specialists and government representatives in each district. The German government is powerless to carry out the necessary measures. But it must render assistance to the German people as much as possible.
In this regard, the Grand Admiral ordered the delivery of a Memorandum to the commander-in-chiefs of the allied forces, which indicates the danger threatening the German people and its consequences. At the same time, practical proposals are being made for a number of necessary measures.









10:45

Report by General Field Marshal Keitel.
The Grand Admiral expressed a desire to establish direct contact with the high command of the armed forces, since all military issues at this time also have a political aspect. Therefore, the Minister of Foreign Affairs must constantly consult with the Grand Admiral.

11:15

Report of Captain 1st Rank Assmann.

11:30

Report of Gauleiter Wegener.

12:00

Present: Minister of Foreign Affairs, General Field Marshal Keitel

1. Recently, more and more information has been received about the intolerable condition and illegal actions taking place in the concentration camps.
It is necessary to make an official statement that neither the German people nor the German armed forces knew anything about the state of the concentration camps.
2. The commander of German troops in Norway reported that the occupation authorities are demanding the arrest of German soldiers from SS units and civilians who are party members.









This demand is impracticable and contradicts the terms of surrender. The circumstances of this condition are clarified.
3. The SS troops, as part of the armed forces, are disbanded. The armed forces had nothing in common with other formations of the SS and SD and do not currently control them.

13:10

Lieutenant Colonel Scheibe gives his impressions of Zhukov's headquarters in Berlin.

13:20

Before his departure, General Matzky reports.
Matzky was appointed chief of communications staff with Marshal Zhukov.
The Grand Admiral gives him the appropriate instructions.
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DIARY OF MEETINGS for 12.05.45

11:00

Report by Colonel General Jodl.

11:15

Report by the Secretary of State Wegener.

11:45

Present: Minister of Foreign Affairs, The Secretary of State Wegener

12:15

[Present are] the same persons and the head of the Department of the Ministry Ohlendorf, Fleet Admiral Wagner, captain 1st rank von Davidson

12:50

Minister of Foreign Affairs, Secretary of State Baron Steengracht

Report on the interview of the British correspondent Ward with the Minister of Foreign Affairs.

16:15

Report of the Minister of State Speer.

16:30

Present: Commander-in-Chief of the Navy, Fleet Admiral Wagner

The Commander-in-Chief of the Navy reports:
1. It remains to be seen whether all submarines are aware of the cessation of hostilities order, given the poor communications in submarine warfare.
It is possible that some submarines are still fighting.
The Grand Admiral replies that the occupation authorities have been notified of this fact on several occasions.
2. The enemy offered favorable economic conditions to the famous German scientists and researchers. The Commander of the Naval Forces requests guidance on such cases.









The Commander of the Naval Forces requests guidance on such cases.
A n s w e r: The placement of German scientists at the disposal of one or another enemy country is an extremely important political issue, so decisions should not be made too hasty.
Report all such cases immediately.

17:00

Field Marshal Keitel's Report.

1. The issue of flags.
The occupation authorities have banned the hanging of flags with a swastika.
2. In some localities, Allied soldiers distort and destroy the portraits of the Fuhrer. The issue arises as to the need to order the removal of the Fuhrer's portraits in order to prevent such cases. The Grand Admiral rejects this proposal, as there have been only a few cases so far.
Recently, especially during the battles for Berlin, the head of the personnel department was not able to carry out leadership in matters of production for ranks and awards, therefore the Fuhrer endowed lower officials with appropriate powers. This led to the fact that now, in the days of defeats, awards and promotions took on a mass character.
The Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces in his order dated 11.05.45 in these two areas made the corresponding restrictions.









18:00

Present: Minister of Foreign Affairs, Albert Speer, The Secretary of State Wegener, General Field Marshal Keitel, Colonel General Jodl, Fleet Admiral Wagner

Three main issues were discussed:

1. The issue of our voluntary resignation (see the minutes of the meetings of 08.05.45), while several new circumstances of fundamental importance were noted:

a) The allied media have changed their previous attitude towards the Dönitz government: to some extent they don't recognize it, but at the same time they polemicize about it. This fact indicates that the enemy's problem about our government has become urgent, but it has not yet been resolved. Solving this problem by our voluntary resignation means indirectly helping the enemy.
b) According to the constitution, a head of the German state is also the supreme commander of the armed forces.
The constitution prohibits the separation of these two functions.
Therefore, rejection of only one of them is impossible, just as the recognition of one of them forces the recognition of another function.
c) The German armed forces took the oath of office to the Fuehrer. According to the constitution, the Fuhrer appointed a deputy for himself, therefore, there is no doubt that the effect of the oath extended to the deputy. The Grand Admiral has no right to break the oath in relation to his soldiers in the same way as every German soldier in relation to him.









The Grand Admiral has no right to break the oath in relation to his soldiers in the same way as every German soldier in relation to him.
d) The Grand Admiral, having received the appointment from the Fuhrer, legally became the head of state. This legal fact is not affected by the temporary loss of sovereignty.
According to the constitution, a head of state can resign only after he has appointed someone to replace himself. If this appointment does not happen, then a president of the state court becomes a head of state.
Consequently, the abolition of the office of the head of state is excluded by law. Thus, consideration of the issue of voluntary resignation becomes redundant.

2. Developments in Germany:
a) To the east of the Elbe, the Russians occupied rich agricultural regions.
At present, due to the small population in these areas, it will be very easy for the Russians to create tolerable living conditions for the German people.
This fact, as well as the skillful method of dealing with the population and propaganda will lead to the fact that the majority of the population will be Bolshevized.
b) The West [of the country] is poor in agricultural terms. Due to evacuation, the region is heavily overpopulated. Their own food supplies will only last for a few weeks.









The districts military authorities could not find a way out of this situation, which resulted in famine, epidemics and radicalization of the masses.
The problem with housing, unemployment, poverty and knowledge about the better provision of the eastern regions of Germany will contribute to the spread of Bolshevism in the western regions.
c) The war not solve the world problems, and especially the problems of Europe, on the contrary, it complicate them and pose them in all their acuteness.
The premonition of future disagreements and the hope for an improvement in our fate make the people look for ways with the least sacrifices. And in this case, the tempting thought is the thought of oriental orientation.
d) The complete misunderstanding of these problems by the Anglo-Americans and their short-sighted colonial policy towards the German people continue to contribute to the fact that the German people will be forced to side with the Russians.
If the above-mentioned problems are not resolved vigorously in the near future, the circumstances will be in favor of the Bolsheviks.

3. The government behavior.
The position and freedom of action of the government depend on the enemy. Probably, the Anglo-Saxons are only interested in the Grand Admiral as the supreme commander of the armed forces, whose authority will ensure the surrender.









They do not seem to even think about giving him, as head of state, and his government freedom of action. However, this does not remove the responsibility of the government to provide assistance to the German people wherever possible. For this, the following activities are planned:
a) to explain to the enemy the main problems listed in paragraph 2 by means of a memorandum, and, if the opportunity is appropriate, verbally;
b) to make a number of practical proposals to improve the plight [of the people];
c) to provide the enemy with well-known specialists in various fields. Since it is solely about the welfare of the German people, in this case it is very important to provide the enemy with the best people for military control.
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Interesting material for historical research to see Soviet documents relating to the end of WW2 in Europe. Thanks for posting and translating them, Alex.
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Interesting material for historical research to see Soviet documents relating to the end of WW2 in Europe. Thanks for posting and translating them, Alex.
Ray, thanks a lot.

I thought that your first post that I will see will be about the disappearance of Maria Zakharova with the demand to return her


By the way, I did not explain where I got the documents that I posted in this thread.

I took them on the Foreign Ministry website - http://agk.mid.ru
The secretariat of Molotov - http://agk.mid.ru/fonds/sekretariat-v-m-molotova/
Опись 7 - http://agk.mid.ru/fonds/sekretariat-...-m-molotova/7/
page 4 - http://agk.mid.ru/fonds/sekretariat-...a/7/?PAGEN_1=4
And the last folder at the bottom (Фонд 06 - Опись 7 - Дело 63 - Папка 6).
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DIARY OF MEETINGS for 13.05.45

09:30

Colonel General Heinrici (former Commander of Army Groups Vistula) makes a report.

10:00

Major General von Trotha makes a report.

10:15

Vice Admiral Bürkner's Report. Discussion of impressions received during cooperation with the Control Commission of Allies.

10:30

Report of the head of the department of the Ministry of Ohlendorf on the development of internal political events (see the diary of yesterday's meetings).

11:00

The head of the control commission under the Supreme Command of the Armed Forces, General Rooks, invited the Grand Admiral for 12:00 on board a ship "Patria".
Conversation on this issue with the Minister of Foreign Affairs.

12:00

Visit to Major General Rooks.
1) A report that [General] Rooks has received an order to arrest General Field Marshal Keitel.
2) Discussion of the current economic situation and necessary measures.
Details about this are contained in the records.









Field Marshal Keitel is arrested by [General] Rooks aboard the ship "Patria".
Conversation with the Minister of Foreign Affairs, the Secretary of State Wegeneg, Colonel General Jodl, Fleet Admiral Wagner about the visit to [General] Rooks.

12:45

A report on the arrest of General Field Marshal Keitel.

12:50

Vice Admiral Bürkner's Report.

13:00

Present: Minister of Foreign Affairs, The Secretary of State Wegener

The invitation to [General] Rooks followed in an unusual and impolite form (telephone conversation with an officer-translator).
The reason for this, obviously, was a fear that Keitel's arrest might otherwise be complicated.
We did the right thing by accepting the invitation.

16:00

Colonel-General Jodl has been appointed Deputy Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces.
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DIARY OF MEETINGS for 14.05.45

01:00

A report that Captain 1st Rank Lute was shot dead by a German sentry in the area of the Naval Academy under tragic circumstances.

09:30

A report that during the accident the guard battalion of Captain 3rd Rank Kremer was on guard duty.

10:00

A report on the appointment of Captain 3rd Rank Schütze as military commandant of Flensburg-Mürwik.

11:00

Lieutenant Colonel Boehm-Tettelbach reports on his impressions of yesterday's conversation between the Grand Admiral and Major General Rooks.

12:00

In connection with new incidents, the chief of the main headquarters of the armed forces again raises the issue of the portraits of the Fuhrer. The Grand Admiral on this issue makes the following decision: to take portraits of the Fuhrer in those rooms where business meetings with members of the occupation government take place.

12:45

Present: Minister of Foreign Affairs, Minister Backe, The Secretary of State Wegener, The Secretary of State Rike

The chief of staff of the Control Commission of Allies on the ship "Patria" asked R. several questions about the state of food.









R. described in detail the present situation and the problems ahead. Centralized management is required, and this requires establishing communication with all other subordinate goverment bodies of the Ministry of Food Industry.
In his remarks, the grand admiral once again reminds us not to waste time, since, as it turned out, help by sea will be provided very late.

13:15

Present: The Secretary of State Wegener, Fleet Admiral Wagner, captain 1st rank von Davidson

1) Wegener was appointed chief of the civilian cabinet, and Wagner was appointed chief of the military cabinet;
2) Wegener reported on the demands of the occupation government of Allies in Flensburg to repeal a number of laws of the 3rd Reich.

17:40

Colonel General Jodl.
The Grand Admiral was reading the minutes of the conversation with Major General Rooks. He does not agree with a solution of the issue of medals. Medals and badges of honor are protected by popular rights, so he would under no circumstances agree to their abolition. He orders to clarify this issue.
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DIARY OF MEETINGS for 15.05.45

09:30

Present: Fleet Admiral Godt, Minister of Foreign Affairs

Godt reports on his activities at the Eisenhower headquarters.

10:00

Major General Rooks' communications officer said by telephone that Minister Backe (a specialist in the food industry) should immediately fly to Eisenhower's headquarters.
This corresponds to a wish of the Grand Admiral for the cooperation of specialists with authorities of Allies in the interests of the German people.

11:00 (?)

The Fleet Admiral Godt describes the current situation and plans for the future.

11:30

Present: Fleet Admiral Wagner, captain 1st rank von Davidson

12:00

Report by Colonel General Jodl.

12:50

State Minister Speer makes a report.

15:30

Present: Head of Department of the Ministry Ohlendorf, Fleet Admiral Wagner, captain 1st rank von Davidson

Ohlendorf report on finance and economic situation.

17:00

The commander of the naval forces gives a report on the mood and attitudes of soldiers and officers.
Cohesion and strong leadership are needed.
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DIARY OF MEETINGS for 16.05.45

10:00

The funeral meeting dedicated to the memory of Captain 1st Rank Lute is held in the hall of the Naval Academy. A speech in memory of the deceased is delivered by the Grand Admiral.

17:00

Present: Minister of Foreign Affairs, Minister Speer

Speer reports on a lengthy and detailed conversation with American Air General Henderson, who is in command of American bomber aircraft in Europe. In the conversation, only the issues of past events were touched upon (the consequences of air raids on transport, in the urban economy and industry). The problems ahead were not discussed.

17:15

Foreign Minister's speech.
1. The state of affairs in Germany (see minutes of 12.05.45) gives rise to serious concerns. The government itself cannot take any measures, as well as raise this issue before the appropriate authorities of the enemy. It is also unthinkable to allow events to develop by themselves. The Grand Admiral decides to receive the English correspondent and, after frankly explaining the situation to him, try to establish contact with some authorities of Allies in this way.









2. A report on the project of Ohlendorf: organization and tasks of the security service. Sending this report to the military authorities of Allies is not advisable yet.

17:30

Present: Minister of Foreign Affairs, Colonel General Jodl, The Secretary of State Wegener, Admiral Wagner, General von Trotha

Reports continue to flow that enemy propaganda is increasingly concerned with the state of the German concentration camps. In this regard, it is necessary to openly declare that neither the German army nor the German people knew about this state of affairs and therefore cannot be held responsible for what happened in the camps (see the protocol for 11.05.45 - 12:00).
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DIARY OF MEETINGS for 17.05.45

11:00

A report by Minister Speer.

11:30

A report of the Chief of the Directorate of Personal Affairs, Lieutenant General Westhoven.

11:45

Present: Dr. Reesner, Admiral Wagner, captain 1st rank von Davidson

Dr. Reesner reports that more and more supporters of the Eastern orientation are appearing among the troops and among the officers. Opinions are openly expressed that the German fleet should have gone not to British ports, but to Kronstadt, and that due to the insufficient respectful treatment of the authorities of Western countries with German servicemen, it would be more expedient to move to the East.
Along with the moments specified in the protocol of 12.05.45 (Assessment of the situation), the arguments for the eastern orientation are the following factors:
a) a hope for a quick restoration of a united Germany (Stalin's words: "Germany should not be divided");
b) clearly predominant force in the East;
c) every soldier who is a specialist has more opportunities to work in his specialty in the east.









The Grand Admiral considers this opinion extremely short-sighted. At the moment, indeed, all chances are on the side of the eastern orientation, but at the same time no one thinks about the price that will have to be paid in the future. This price is the existence of the German people. Since it is impossible to influence the army through radio and the media, all that remains is verbal propaganda, which should reach the largest possible number of German soldiers in order to save them from serious delusion.

12:30

A report of the Secretary of State Wegener.
The Presidium of the German Red Cross, all of which has been in Flensburg lately, cannot continue to work, since almost the entire leadership, due to its belonging to the SS, has been arrested by the occupation authorities. Indeed, the identity of the president, Professor Gebhardt, has not been verified in accordance with the regulations. But on the other hand, it is now that the Red Cross must run smoothly, especially in relation to its responsibilities towards refugees. It is necessary to recruit new personnel in accordance with the rules of the International Red Cross.

13:00

A report of the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy on the moods and opinions in the troops and the officer corps that disturb him. Continuous monitoring and stringent measures are required.









13:30

Foreign Minister's report.

18:30

BBC Correspondent Mr. Ward. The interview without permission to publish (see minutes for 16.05.45 - 17:15).
The Grand Admiral openly describes the present situation, life problems, psychological mistakes of the Anglo-Saxons and the course of events in Germany.
The effect of this interview is highly questionable, but it should, albeit to a small extent, help to make Anglo-American circles understand the magnitude of the impending danger.

19:00

Present: General Field Marshal Busch, Colonel General Jodl, Admiral Wagner

1) General Field Marshal Busch reports on collaboration with Montgomery. In contrast to previous negotiations, the attitude [towards the field marshal OR/AND towards the military OR/AND towards the civilian population] (?) is extremely unworthy (many examples are given). As a result of the measures taken by the British, public life completely stopped. They don't recreate it, but on the contrary drown it out, work slowly, little and approach their work in a bureaucratic manner.

2) The situation in the armies:
a) a significant improvement in discipline can be noted, which can be attributed to the gathering of all the loitering soldiers in the camps;









b) the implementation of the terms of surrender in Holland (the army of Colonel General von Blaskowitz) is proceeding according to plan;
c) the disarmament of Blumentritt's army began. It should be noted that there is good cooperation and consistency in meeting the conditions;
d) Colonel General Lindemann's troops are on their way from Denmark. The troops are making a good impression. There is a shortage of vehicles;
e) the most difficult moment is the mood and opinion of the troops. Every soldier is sure that in the East he would be well fed and treated well, while in the West he is forced to starve and endure an unworthy attitude.

3) On the removal of medals and badges with a swastika.
General Field Marshal Busch reports that the corresponding order is already being prepared. This order says about removing the swastika badges and the German cross, as well as replacing a German cross with a Knight's Cross. There is no more new information on this issue. The Grand Admiral has not yet made any decision.









20:00

A Russian control commission arrived at the headquarters of the high command.
The chairman is Major General Trusov.






The text was translated by:

a lieutenant - (Manevich)
a senior lieutenant - (Preobrazhenskaya)



Everything written here is right:

The Head of the 1st Subdivision of 4th Directorate of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Red Army

a lieutenant colonel - (Korbut)
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Translation from German

21.05.1945

The headquarters of the operational leadership of the armed forces.
Foreign Information Department.



Record of a conversation between Colonel General Jodl and American Major General Rooks and British Brigadier General Foord.

(The conversation was attended by Vice Admiral Bürkner, Lieutenant Colonel of the Air Force General Staff Boehm-Tettelbach and an interpreter)


1) Removal of medals and badges of honor: (See Appendix)

2) About hand salutes
Major General Rooks.
He informed about the order of the commander of the 21st British Army Group, according to which, officers of the troops of Allies performing official duties should be given a hand salute, in other cases a hand salute is not necessary. He sent the corresponding order to the High Command of the German Armed Forces. Major General Rooks requested that this order be carried out. For example, he is hand saluted by German officers and soldiers, and he also does hand salutes in return. These actions don't contradict the accepted agreements.









3) The radio message about the transfer of German troops from the North to Belgium, France and Holland:
Colonel General Jodl:
This radio message will cause excitement and undermine discipline in the German forces of the Northern Region.
Major General Rooks:
He prefers to conduct a conversation with Colonel General Jodl using official data. Radio messages don't meet these criteria. On the other hand, it is possible that such an event is planned by the allies.
The Major General asks the Colonel General if he has any proposals to the constructive side of the issue.
Colonel General Jodl:
According to our data, the Allies in the West have about 1.5 million German prisoners of war. In my opinion, it is more expedient to use these troops at work in the places where they are located than to send them to Germany, where they hope to be demobilized. In reality, they will be sent back [to the front], and this may cause discontent among the troops.
Major General Rooks:
He gratefully took into account Colonel-General Jodl's wishes. The American general believes that German officers should prepare their soldiers to carry out such orders.









Colonel General Jodl:
He is confident that this requirement will be fulfilled, however, provided that officers and ordinary soldiers are together.

4) Requirements made by the control commission to the Supreme Command of the Armed Forces:
Colonel General Jodl:
These demands are very high and they have increased especially since the Russians joined the commission.
However, the Colonel General is not complaining about his work (since he has been accustomed to working hard for a number of years), but that there is a danger that it will be impossible to fulfill the demands of the Allies and that the control commission may get the impression that Germany is slow to fulfill these demands. And this, as I said, is not the case, although the division of the High Command into parts has an adverse effect in this regard.
Major General Rooks:
He stated that he and his officers would make every effort to resolve this issue.

5) Major General Rooks resolved the issue with radio and media.
In England and America, neither the media nor the radio is controlled. Censorship by the Allied Command in the occupied areas only controls military matters.









Every correspondent and radio can publish and report whatever they want, especially in the field of politics.
Colonel General Jodl:
He stated that he lived both under the Kaiser and under the existence of a democratic-socialist republic, therefore such rules are familiar to him, but he doubts their application to the German people and the army.

6) In conclusion, Major General Rooks thanks the Colonel General for the conversation and promises to resolve the issue with the medals as soon as possible.


Distribution list:
To Adjutant of the Grand Admiral
To the Chief of Staff of the headquarters of the operational leadership of the armed forces
To Deputy the Chief of Staff of the headquarters of the operational leadership of the armed forces
To the Minister of Foreign Affairs
To the liaison officer from the German government
To the Operations Department of the Ground Forces
To the Operations Department of the Navy
To the Operations Department of the Air Force
To the Demobilization Department
To the Foreign Information Department
To the command [of Army Group] (?) "North"






The text was translated by:

a lieutenant - (Novikova)




Everything written here is right:

The Head of the 1st Subdivision of 4th Directorate of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Red Army

a lieutenant colonel - (Korbut)
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