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June 21st, 2009 | #1 |
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Neanderthals
One of science's most puzzling mysteries - the disappearance of the Neanderthals - may have been solved. Modern humans ate them, says a leading fossil expert.
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How the hell do they know that the unfortunate Neanderthal's own people didn't make a post-mortem or sacrificial jowl sammich?
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I'm always amused when scientists find one extreme example of something then present it as the norm.
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There is a new theory on why the Neanderthals died out. Infectious diseases which seem a lot more plausible to me than cannibalism, changing climate, competition from modern humans or absorption.
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There's so many theories of why Neanderthal suddenly vanished from the fossil record about 24,000 years ago, that they couldn't adapt, disease, extermination by cro-magnon, etc.
But there is another intriguing possibility, neanderthal still lives ...in us whites. I've always been fascinated by prehistoric cave paintings, especially those found in Europe (painted by our ancestors), they are far more sophisticated and numerous than similar works found anywhere else in the world ...almost like comparing a Michelangelo with a child's crayon drawing. And they are also older, again by far. Here's a few samples of cave art from Chauvet Cave, Vallon Pont-d'Arc France discovered in 1994. You are looking at art that is 30,000-32,000 years old according to radiocarbon dating, the oldest artwork produced by man found to date anywhere in the world. These ancient European artists used methods not seen anywhere else, like scraping the walls flat and clean of detritus before working on them, but the real kicker is when you view them by torchlight (the way they were meant to be viewed) ...it suddenly hits you that they used techniques in creating these works like perspective, shading etc. that supposedly weren't 'invented' until the Renaissance era. This cave was painted during a time when cro-magnon and neanderthal cohabited Europe. Europe (from Ireland to the Urals), the Middle East, North Africa and India are where most all traces of ancient Neanderthal are found, curiously our extinct human cousin's turf corresponds exactly with the traditional realm of the Caucasian race. Both human species had co-existed uneasily for two hundred thousand years, using similar tools and technologies and living somewhat similar lifestyles and then all of a sudden about 35,000 years ago there is this creative explosion in homo sapiens that noone really understands, and 10,000 years later neanderthal disappears from the planet. Might some genetic change have made possible the interbreeding of the two, and might the seemingly unlimited creative potential of this hybrid (us) have been made possible from the union of two related forms of man who up until that time the record shows had shown hardly any of the characteristic works of modern humans? Quote:
Updated Neanderthal physical reconstructions: Another article on the possibility of Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal interbreeding: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33721697/ Evidence of inter-species violence? http://www.livescience.com/history/0...al-murder.html Just a theory, but it seems more plausible than 'space aliens' altering the human genome to create an intelligent being from a semi-animal. The author of the article I quoted Stan Gooch is an odd individual, he's also reviled by leftists for assigning 'inferior' (Neanderthal) qualities to them and curiously, jews. One more thing to ponder. Last edited by T.Garrett; January 26th, 2010 at 08:12 AM. Reason: ooops, was half asleep when I posted this |
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I find this "science" ridiculously speculative.
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The main stream academic science is also speculative.... WHY would the Cro Magnuns wipe out the Neanderthals unless they were a threat and ugly as all get out....?...Think about it .... The idea of the "Boogyman" in our myths is the Neanderthal....IMHO. |
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200,000-year-old Neanderthal human remains found in Normandy
French archaeologists have discovered some 200,000-year-old Neanderthal human remains in Normandy in an extremely rare discovery in northwestern Europe. The three long Neanderthal bones - from the same left upper limb - found in September at Tourville-la-Rivière in Normandy and exhibited on Thursday in Paris are human fossils which are extremely rare in this part of Europe. The remains are attributable to the Neanderthal lineage - in the Middle Pleistocene era - and are aged between 236,000 and 183,000 years. The open-air site of Tourville-la-Rivière was discovered in 1967 as a sand and gravel quarry and has since been monitored by archaeologists. It is the second time such remains have been found in France. In the 1980s two partial crania from this period were excavated from Biache-Saint-Vaast in northern France. All known human fossils from this period have been found from ten sites in either Germany or England. The three bones most probably belong to an adult or an older adolescent but archaeologists said they were unable to tell if it's a male or female remain. The archaeological discovery was published on Thursday on the American sciences review Plos One. http://www.english.rfi.fr/visiting-f...ound-normandy? |
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Altamura Man yields oldest Neanderthal DNA sample
by Bob Yirka r (Phys.org)—A team of researchers working in Italy has confirmed that Altamura Man was a Neanderthal and dating of pieces of calcite which were on the remains has revealed that the bones are 128,000 to 187,000 years old. In their paper published in the Journal of Human Evolution, the team describes how they extracted a small bone sample and examined it and what they found by doing so. Altamura Man was discovered in a cave in southern Italy in 1993 by cave explorers. The finding was reported to researchers at the University of Bari. The remains were embedded in rock and were covered in a thick layer of calcite (they lie in a karst borehole rich in limestone amid running water.) It was thought that excavating the remains would cause irreparable damage and thus, they have remained in situ for over twenty years, leaving researchers to rely on casual observation for their studies. For that reason, there was some debate initially about morphology and age. Subsequent study led to a consensus that the remains (only the head and part of a shoulder are visible) were that of an archaic Neanderthal, of a Homo genus believed to have been widespread in Europe 200,000 to 40,000 years ago. The researchers with the current project began their work six years ago—a tiny part of shoulder bone (and stalactite fragments) was extracted and brought back to the lab for study. Analysis by Uranium-thorium dating revealed that the calcite was formed 172,000 to 130,000 years ago—during the penultimate quaternary glaciations period. The team also reports that samples of DNA have also been retrieved from the sample, and because of the age, represent the oldest such samples ever recovered from Neanderthal remains. It is believed that Altamura Man wound up in such a peculiar spot after falling in a well and getting stuck—it is assumed he starved to death, or died from lack of water intake. The researchers next plan to test the DNA sample to see if it can be sequenced—if so, they are hopeful it might reveal new details about the evolution of hominids in general and perhaps more about the early history of the Neanderthal. In 1993, a fossil hominin skeleton was discovered in the karst caves of Lamalunga, near Altamura, in southern Italy. Despite the fact that this specimen represents one of the most extraordinary hominin specimens ever found in Europe, for the last two decades our knowledge of it has been based purely on the documented on-site observations. Recently, the retrieval from the cave of a fragment of bone (part of the right scapula) allowed the first dating of the individual, the quantitative analysis of a diagnostic morphological feature, and a preliminary paleogenetic characterization of this hominin skeleton from Altamura. Overall, the results concur in indicating that it belongs to the hypodigm of Homo neanderthalensis, with some phenetic peculiarities that appear consistent with a chronology ranging from 172 ± 15 ka to 130.1 ± 1.9 ka. Thus, the skeleton from Altamura represents the most ancient Neanderthal from which endogenous DNA has ever been extracted. http://phys.org/news/2015-04-altamur...rthal-dna.html |
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http://www.irishexaminer.com/world/n...ry-338751.html Neanderthal DNA discovery
291823 Wednesday, June 24, 2015 By John von Radowitz DNA from a Romanian who lived in a prehistoric “dark age”, when early modern humans and Neanderthals were neighbours, is strong evidence that the two groups interbred in Europe. It had been thought that early humans leaving Africa mixed with Neanderthals in the Middle East 50,000 to 60,000 years ago, before migrating to Europe and Asia. The new evidence shows that early-modern humans, and their sub-species cousins, interbred more recently, during the 5,000 years they co-existed in Eurasia, before Neanderthals became extinct. The owner of the jawbone from which the DNA was extracted had a Neanderthal in his family tree as recently as four to six generations back, the research shows. advertisement READ NEXT: West African lions critically endangered Nine percent of his genome, or genetic code, may have been Neanderthal in origin. The Neanderthal contribution to the genomes of non-African people living today is between 1% and 3%. Professor Svante Paabo, from the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology, in Germany, said: “It is such a lucky and unexpected thing to get DNA from a person who was so closely related to a Neanderthal. I could hardly believe it, when we first saw the results.” Neanderthals had been living in Europe for 200,000 years when the first, early-modern humans left Africa to colonise Europe and Asia. The two groups were different in appearance — Neanderthals were shorter and stockier, with prominent brow ridges — but genetically close for interbreeding. Neanderthals died out 40,000 years ago. Perhaps they were unable to compete with more sophisticated, modern humans for resources, such as food and shelter. They may also have been ‘assimilated’ through interbreeding. Archaeological evidence, including changes in tool-making technology, burial rituals and body ornaments, indicates cultural exchange between the two groups when they co-existed in Europe. But because of a lack of skeletons, scientists know little about these people’s physical and genetic make-ups. The rare jawbone was unearthed from the Pestera cu Oase (“cave with bones”), in the Carpathian Mountains of south-west Romania, in 2002. Radiocarbon dating determined it was between 37,000 and 42,000 years old, and the presence of both X and Y sex chromosomes confirmed it was male. Results of the genetic analysis appear in the latest online edition of the journal, Nature. Co-author, Dr David Reich, from Harvard Medical School, in the US, said: “The sample is more closely related to Neanderthals than any other modern human we’ve ever looked at before. We estimate that 6% to 9% of its genome is from Neanderthals. ” |
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Neanderthal DNA
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DNA from Neanderthals is very close to modern African DNA. Africa is also considered as the first continent with living people. |
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That's a new one on me, Ian Zonja. I see the contrary opinion expressed many times in the last year or two, on several various sites, that blacks are probably the only extant hominoid race with -0- Neanderthal admixture.
But just last week I stumble upon this 7-1/2-year-old TBS article by Willis Carto, that Jews are perhaps mostly Neandertal (and the photos are exceptionally persuasive! -and the illustration is not bad either.) https://thechosenites.files.wordpres...eanderthal.pdf "For the past 50 or 60 millennia, Neanderthal/Semites have tried to interbreed with Cro-Magnon/Aryans.This has somewhat improved the Jewish phenotype at the expense of the latter."
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Dig site in Tuscany reveals Neanderthals used fire to make Tools A team of researchers from several institutions in Italy has found evidence of Neanderthals using fire to craft tools approximately 171,000 years ago. In their paper published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, the group outlines where the naturally preserved wood artifacts were found and how they discovered their purpose. https://phys.org/news/2018-02-site-t...tools.html#jCp |
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