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Old March 23rd, 2007 #41
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Sevierville, TN County Courthouse



Approx. 26 miles from the city center of Knoxville.

White folk might be more inclined to join us here..........away from the Nigger horde in Knoxville.
Not bad, a good size town of about 15,000 folks near 95% White and close to Knoxville according to a detailed profile search on google. And a pro-White rally attracted a good crowd of locals a few years ago. How about a march with a rally at the courthouse.

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Old March 23rd, 2007 #42
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Has anyone on here met Dr. Fields before? I met him last year at an event in Clarksville, IN. Pretty neat guy.
 
Old March 24th, 2007 #43
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Has anyone on here met Dr. Fields before? I met him last year at an event in Clarksville, IN. Pretty neat guy.
I believe that he is originally from Marietta, G.A. Apparently he was one of the first Anti-Communist southerners to make the connection between Jews and the Negro Civil Rights movement.
 
Old March 24th, 2007 #44
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Ok, guys this is it. I just spent 20 minutes cleaning this thread up. The next flamer gets a week break. This thread stays on topic OR ELSE. If you have a problem with anyone who was posting on this thread, take it here: http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=46857. I'm being very lenient with some of you guys here, and you know it. Cut the shit.
 
Old March 24th, 2007 #45
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I don't think discussing the wisdom of inviting David Duke, who is not participating in this discussion, counts as a flame.

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Old March 24th, 2007 #46
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I don't think discussing the wisdom of inviting David Duke, who is not participating in this discussion, counts as a flame.
If I moved a post by accident I apologize, certainly you understand one could slip in when moving 2 pages worth. Direct me to the post you are referring to and if I accidentally moved it I'll put it back here.
 
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If I moved a post by accident I apologize, certainly you understand one could slip in when moving 2 pages worth. Direct me to the post you are referring to and if I accidentally moved it I'll put it back here.
Don't worry about it. It was confrontational.

Though not everyone here appreciates it, sometimes you have to stir the pot a bit to get people thinking -- and there are a lot of guys here -- mostly younger and / or inexperienced -- who just don't think when they're doing things.

The ANSWP is not going to actually protest this unless David Duke were to actually be invited and attend -- which he's not. In fact, Duke-affiliated organs, such as Stormfront, are actively banning discussion of this rally.

What I wish white activists like Hibernian and Ahnernerbe could see -- I don't have a lot of hope for changing Rounder's mind -- is that there is a segment of the white movement which is actively opposed to both VNN and the kind of organizing which is being discussed here. The arguments they make about uniforms and the like come from that segment of the white movement. Insofar as they advance those arguments, they hurt both the interests of the race and their own ability to organize.

Billy Roper tried the exact approach these guys are arguing for, and his White Revolution failed. National Vanguard tried it, and their organization failed. All white organizations that try that approach fail. They end up doing nothing, because they attract, by their nature, people who want to be part of an organization but don't want to go out in public and be confrontational.

In contrast, National Socialist organizations have always been very successful, except that they have always failed to attract good leadership -- and that leadership failure has always broken them in the end.

What people object to, with me, is that I go out and stir things up, when they just want to live their lives quietly and "politely" disagree with the system. There is no polite disagreement. If I went out and shot a dozen mixed-race couples, I would be attacked for "hurting the interests of the white race" because I was not being "respectable".

What folk need to understand is that the system exists to perpetuate itself. The standard of respectability exists to perpetuate the system. If you want to change the system, you have to step outside its bounds of respectability and force it to change itself to perpetuate you. This is the only approach that, in thousands of years of human history, has ever worked.

And, for the record, the ANSWP has, as of this morning, 197 people national knows about actively contributing to our organization, plus some more that I wish our state leaders were organized enough to send to national to get on our lists.
 
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Does anyone know how to get in contact with Prussian Blue to see if they would be willing to preform at the rally?
 
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Don't worry about it. It was confrontational.

Though not everyone here appreciates it, sometimes you have to stir the pot a bit to get people thinking -- and there are a lot of guys here -- mostly younger and / or inexperienced -- who just don't think when they're doing things.

The ANSWP is not going to actually protest this unless David Duke were to actually be invited and attend -- which he's not. In fact, Duke-affiliated organs, such as Stormfront, are actively banning discussion of this rally.

What I wish white activists like Hibernian and Ahnernerbe could see -- I don't have a lot of hope for changing Rounder's mind -- is that there is a segment of the white movement which is actively opposed to both VNN and the kind of organizing which is being discussed here. The arguments they make about uniforms and the like come from that segment of the white movement. Insofar as they advance those arguments, they hurt both the interests of the race and their own ability to organize.

Billy Roper tried the exact approach these guys are arguing for, and his White Revolution failed. National Vanguard tried it, and their organization failed. All white organizations that try that approach fail. They end up doing nothing, because they attract, by their nature, people who want to be part of an organization but don't want to go out in public and be confrontational.

In contrast, National Socialist organizations have always been very successful, except that they have always failed to attract good leadership -- and that leadership failure has always broken them in the end.

What people object to, with me, is that I go out and stir things up, when they just want to live their lives quietly and "politely" disagree with the system. There is no polite disagreement. If I went out and shot a dozen mixed-race couples, I would be attacked for "hurting the interests of the white race" because I was not being "respectable".

What folk need to understand is that the system exists to perpetuate itself. The standard of respectability exists to perpetuate the system. If you want to change the system, you have to step outside its bounds of respectability and force it to change itself to perpetuate you. This is the only approach that, in thousands of years of human history, has ever worked.

And, for the record, the ANSWP has, as of this morning, 197 people national knows about actively contributing to our organization, plus some more that I wish our state leaders were organized enough to send to national to get on our lists.
I don't find much to disagree with in your above posting. And frankly, if I was running the Knoxville gathering, I wouldn't object to NS's or the swastika being there. Been there, done that and for 4 long years with the old NSPA.

But Alex is running the thing. And Alex is boss. To go against the boss is bad, bad, bad. Gotta support the boss. Otherwise we'll help cause a circle jerk - confusion, chaos, guaranteed embarrassing failure.

The boss said no swastikas, but black attire and/or black armbands. And his stated purpose for the demonstration is not to provoke another Toledo, but rather to focus public attention on the nigger butchers, and the jewsmedia's silencing of them, while publicizing VNN to the max in an attempt to bring more people to VNN and turn them into contributors to VNN activism projects, such as VNN radio and VNN's newspaper. And of course, expose the god damned jews as persuasively and as extensively as we can via the demonstration and via whatever media opportunities become available. These are worthwhile objectives for any public demonstration. And they'll be better advanced by the appearance of a large crowd of supporters. The larger the better, in fact.
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Old March 24th, 2007 #50
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I'm convinced that the white masses in general, particularly in the south, are not nearly as turned off by the swastika now, as they were in the 80's. Back then illegal aliens weren't even an issue to them, for just one example. But it sure as hell is now.

Finally, whites are realizing this isn't their country anymore, and that this government doesn't give a damn about them, but cares far more for foreign muds, and illegal mud aliens.
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Does anyone know how to get in contact with Prussian Blue to see if they would be willing to perform at the rally?

That's really a great idea...however, if they agreed to do it, they'd probably get banned from Stormfront.


I was BANNED simply for posting a link to the rally. (I think)

Imagine if they agreed to perform?


Sorry for wandering off topic a tad.


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Not bad, a good size town of about 15,000 folks near 95% White and close to Knoxville according to a detailed profile search on google. And a pro-White rally attracted a good crowd of locals a few years ago. How about a march with a rally at the courthouse.
Hey Ron...I don't know too much about Dr. Fields, other than the obvious. (The Truth At Last)

He's gotta be a fairly respectable guy...right? He can't possibly be a "crazy-talking loony"...or can he?

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As far as we know, there is no rally planned or scheduled in Knoxville concerning this crime. However if there are Stormfront people there who are willing to move forward with such plans we are listening.

As for the blog noises about such a rally, we should make it perfectly clear, again, that Stormfront will have nothing to do with any toxoid project or promoting any crazy-talking looneys, should any such people decide to go down there and rant from the courthouse steps.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/show...&postcount=122

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Old March 24th, 2007 #53
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Well, I guess at this point, if WN posters on SF want to know more about the event, I guess they will have to come here.
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Alex has actually not said "no swastikas". Some people have put those words in his mouth to create divisions.

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Alex has actually not said "no swastikas". Some people have put those words in his mouth to create divisions.
I'm paraphrasing but I believe Alex said he wouldn't enforce a dress code but that he preferred no clown uniforms or pointy white hats.
 
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Alex has actually not said "no swastikas". Some people have put those words in his mouth to create divisions.
For the record, here's what Alex said about dress: (It's pretty obvious he doesn't want NS uniforms or swastikas, but you're right, he didn't say so specifically. He oughta clarify his position).


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Black is appropriate for this rally. We are memorializing the lives of two good, solid White people. Our focus is entirely on 1) their lives, 2) the System that facilitated their murder, 3) what we can and must do to correct the situation.

You calling attention to yourself by playing the fool, by dressing the collectible - I'm not going to strip you if you dress up, but you are going against my wishes and the wishes of the vast majority of people.

I will wear black shoes, khaki dress pants, and some kind of black top. My hair will be medium-short, cut, not shaved. Again, however you choose to dress, carry yourself like a man.

What do people see when they look at you? Do they want more or less of that set of qualities?
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I see people are still crying about nazi and klan uniforms. I got a few legit questions: How should I do my hair? What color socks should I wear? Boxers or briefs? What type of soap should I clean with before the rally?
 
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I see people are still crying about nazi and klan uniforms. I got a few legit questions: How should I do my hair? What color socks should I wear? Boxers or briefs? What type of soap should I clean with before the rally?
Hey Mike,

Maybe you didn't see this:


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Maybe you didn't see this:




Guess we'll be seeing you in a week.
I didn't attack anyone. I asked a few questions. If I attend, I wanna make sure I look good enough for Linder, the messiah of Knoxville.
 
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Does anyone know how to get in contact with Prussian Blue to see if they would be willing to preform at the rally?
You gotta be kidding...

On another note, why do some people insist on trying to bring their fucking nazi uniforms ? Can't you attend ONE rally without them ?

"Bouhouhou no nazis at the rally, nazis have to stand up for white people". Tragic isn't it ? Why don't you let this be a MAINSTREAM rally by whites for whites instead of hollywood nazis vs EVERYONE ELSE.

As far as i understand it, this rally will be just for anyone who supports it, not "the movement" vs "joe sixpack american idiot".

First nazi uniform/reference and the whole thing will turn to shit because there will be more people protesting your presence than supporters!

Also the media will not make it "white community rally against black violence", it will be another national coverage about "illiterate neonazi fools protest poor oppressed black community".
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