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Old June 22nd, 2004 #41
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Oh yes, compulsive liars and prevaricators, the whole lot of us.
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Old June 22nd, 2004 #42
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Here ! Did BNP leader Nick Griffin come back from Sweden ?

Because he has gone again......well, he has gone somewhere

Perhaps he has gone to Sitzerland, they have loads of banks there
 
Old June 22nd, 2004 #43
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Sitzerland with a 'w'
 
Old June 22nd, 2004 #44
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Here ! Did BNP leader Nick Griffin come back from Sweden ?

Because he has gone again......well, he has gone somewhere

Perhaps he has gone to Sitzerland, they have loads of banks there
WELL YOU DID VOTE GRIFFIN IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Old June 22nd, 2004 #45
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And now I want to vote him out again

We can't have these whippersnappers walking over the BNP party constitution on race

No blacks, jews or turks in the BNP ! Just right !
 
Old June 23rd, 2004 #46
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And now I want to vote him out again

We can't have these whippersnappers walking over the BNP party constitution on race

No blacks, jews or turks in the BNP ! Just right !
You'd have more luck telling it to the BNP you dumb fucking moron. It does no good writing it over on every thread on VNN, in case your peabrain hasn't noticed. Racialists today are the dumbest fucking morons around!
 
Old June 23rd, 2004 #47
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Who is this wanker mithras ?
 
Old June 23rd, 2004 #48
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Those were their own words, you bloody moron!
Their own words, that it was the "founding principle" of the party? Hardly. Because the party was founded in 1988, whereas that statement was made at a meeting last year, and isn't even in the party program or principle program last time I checked, which was on the internet two minutes ago.

Hmm, got anything else? Besides, didn't you say you wouldn't reply to any more posts of mine? Changed your mind? And I would still be interested to hear if you have any more sources about Swedish nationalism than the small amount of propaganda and information posted in English at those two parties' websites -- you have avoided that question thus far.

(Party websites -- exceptionally uninteresting sources of information. Read the BNP and WNP websites and you'll be confused, since it seems both parties will take over Britain tomorrow after tea. Who to believe? Maybe BBC can help out with that one. )

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Old June 23rd, 2004 #49
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From the interview with Enhärjarna at vikingarock.se:

What is patriotism to you?
Here I was lifted, on my father's arm, Here I was rocked, safe in mother's care, Here I wore out my first pair of shoes, Here I have my sister and my brother . . . . thanks Janne!

Hehe, yes, I like that Ultima Thule song, one of the best viking rock ballads. It continues with a reference to the Swedish national anthem, with increasing intensity: Here I want to live, here I want to die, here I live my life in freedom!

That's a part you're supposed to stand around in a circle on Midsummer listening to, shouting it out loud with your buddies and raising the beer cans high in the air.
 
Old June 23rd, 2004 #50
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You'd have more luck telling it to the BNP you dumb fucking moron. It does no good writing it over on every thread on VNN, in case your peabrain hasn't noticed. Racialists today are the dumbest fucking morons around!
Well said!!

If you think he is dumb wait till you hear from WNP brighton
 
Old June 23rd, 2004 #51
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Well your hardly a fuckin genius are you Scotland 88 ?
 
Old June 24th, 2004 #52
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Their own words, that it was the "founding principle" of the party? Hardly. Because the party was founded in 1988, whereas that statement was made at a meeting last year, and isn't even in the party program or principle program last time I checked, which was on the internet two minutes ago.
You stupid niggerbrained reject, why are you lying again? They wrote FUNDAMENTAL principle not "founding" principle. What I wrote was a cut and paste directly from their english-page website. I didn't realize that your world would come crashing down, but that is that. Maybe you can act a little less like a pansy?
 
Old June 28th, 2004 #53
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Blah, blah, blah.... You are holding on for dear life to the single sentence you have that gives you a glimpse of something in Sweden. That's admirable: many kids today have much shorter attention spans, whereas yours seems to have developed into an obsession that won't let go once you have your focus on something you hope to be able to use. Seriously, who do you think you're kidding?

But I must say, fantastic what an expert you are on Swedish politics, Mithras my homie, without even a shred of knowledge about the country! But don't you worry, we know that deep inside that untrained, immature facade there's a cuddly little teddybear, trying to get out.


Or, maybe I am not giving you enough credit. Maybe you're a veritable professor on Swedish nationalism, as your aggression when questioned would suggest. I'll give you a chance to prove your superior knowledge in the matter. Help the audience out with the following questions:

Should Swedish nationalists advocate the taxes be lower or higher or remain the same, and on what grounds?
What should the nationalist atittude be toward the government monopoly on universities, hospitals, pharmacies and liquor stores?
Have Swedish nationalists emphasized the OECD enough?
In what way do Swedish nationalists tie back to thoughts that appeared within Socialdemokraterna and the right-wing Moderaterna in the early 20th century?

What areas in Stockholm are the best for recruitment? Which of the Riksdag parties are the best for recruitment?
What are the differences in attitude toward nationalism in Skåne and Norrland, and what are the historical reasons for this?
Which town should be the easiest for recruitment, Malmö or Visby?

And now, to the parties and organizations:

Should the members of Nordiska rikspartiet join Nationalsocialistisk front, and are their policies compatible? Which of the two carry on hardcore nationalism the best?
What happened to Hembygdspartiet and Konservativa partiet?
Why were Riksfronten and Nationella alliansen dissolved, and who carry on their message today?
Is there a difference between Nationell ungdom and Svenska motståndsrörelsen? Which of the two is the most successful? Where are they concentrated geographically?


I am eagerly awaiting your reply, oh Guru of Swedish Nationalism!

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Old June 28th, 2004 #54
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You get even more pathetic and babyish by the day.
 
Old June 29th, 2004 #55
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Hush, little cub. If you can't answer my questions, then it's clear to all you don't know squat about Swedish nationalism, and so you are merely a poseur in this matter. So why write more nonsense and confirm the suspicion, hmm? Besides, what happened to your swearing you would never reply to anything I wrote again?

Now, listen to Papa Bear instead, I will show you something. This just in:

Dagens Nyheter:

Leading National Democrat Suspended

The National Democrats have suspended their own top candidate in the EU election. Tor Paulsson was arrested on Saturday night suspected of having threatened and beaten his co-habiting girlfriend. Together they were poster names in the party's campaign against violence against women in the last Riksdag election.

Tor Paulsson is the step-son of National Democrat party leader Anders Steen. He has a central role as the party organizer and is considered to be the leader of the party behind the stage. He works full-time for the party and campaigned all over the country in the campaign for the EU election.

This Monday he was suspended from all party duties.

--If the information that has been brought forward is true we expect him to resign his party membership voluntarily, says Anders Steen.

Last Saturday night Tor Paulsson and his girlfriend held a party together with several other active National Democrats in the girlfriend's house in Gagnef, Dalarna. According to the statements given to the police he started beating his girlfriend before the gathered party comrades. Police were called to the scene and Tor Paulsson was apprehended, suspected of aggravated battery. Several witnesses were heard yesterday. The district attorney is expected to make a decision on criminal charges this Tuesday.
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Now, to be fair this is not the first time someone embarrasses Swedish nationalists, but it is by far the most serious blow to the ND during its short history (2001-). Like the article says Tor Paulsson is the "party organizer," and all agree he is the de facto party leader. He could scarcely have hurt the party more: how it must pain the membership cadre, especially since the ND evolved into basically a personality cult around TP. But given his long record of aggressive behavior it was only a matter of time when he would be standing before a court of law (again).

Beating his girlfriend! Before witnesses! She is also a party member.

It remains to be seen whether Anders Steen can keep the party going now; he probably can, but it will no doubt come to look different, and I wouldn't be surprised if they would lose many of their most active members, who loved TP's authoritarian style. (In fact, many of the top names have already left the party, and some have returned to the SD. They were told by TP and AS it would be an easy thing to take over SD members and voters, but as time went on they became disillusioned.)

Also, the organizer of the ND Youth, Marc Abramsson, is facing jailtime for beating up a faggot at a "Pride" Festival last year. Without him I can think of only one man who could boost party morale at this time (not the party leader); we shall see whether he will step up or not.

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Old June 29th, 2004 #56
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I still can't believe that about Marc. He's such an obvious nerd.
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Old June 29th, 2004 #57
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True, reminds you of a MUFer; I don't believe it either. The ND claim there's a video that shows he didn't do anything, but it is also said the video is so grainy you really can't see much.

A politically motivated conviction, no doubt.
 
Old June 29th, 2004 #58
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Hush, little cub. If you can't answer my questions,
Little cub? Are you a faggot?

Your questions had nothing to do with the SD writing about how they made the UN human rights declaration a fundamental part of their party. Or are you still denying they wrote this? Blaming it on the jews?
 
Old June 29th, 2004 #59
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Stop trying, cub scout, you don't know anything about our country, except perhaps that it's full of people with a higher IQ than yours.

On the other hand, you could prove me wrong by replying to the very easy questions I asked you about Swedish nationalism. Ooor, prove your worth by admitting you're a tiresome poseur who would do best to listen to your betters when it comes to Swedish politics (and much else, one would suspect). The choice is yours.

And hey, didn't you say you wouldn't be writing to me anymore, since I'm such a meanie? Didya forget that, or are you just too fond of company to stay away?
 
Old June 29th, 2004 #60
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Why should Swedish nationalism be any different than British or German nationalism? You think they should live by different standards because they are Swedes? Of course, you're a capitalist pig, the enemy of nationalism. Why should anyone have to prove themselves to you?

BTW, let's see the injury report on TP's girlfriend.
 
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