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Are they? Is that why they were deemed "see kaffers"? Some were but not "many" by a long stretch of the imagination. Most of them were classified as non-White, which is why you won't find many Greeks or Portuguese eager to support Afrikaner Nationalism.
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I'll say this again clown, so you understand me perfectly clearly. The source cited by Diablobanco's link, took into no account the immigration since the original settlers, the 5 million or so mixed Capoids in the cape today which stands testament to the fact that the "mixed" were never "mixed" with enough to create a vast amount of 3.5 million people who appear white but aren't. Secondly the original researcher of this claim guessed the amount of non-White blood there was no sampling done with DNA on his behalf to even affirm that such is the case. What he did was look at 1200 cases from 1652 - 1868, and then concluded that given the time since then to now, 7% is the total allotted to EVERY Afrikaner. Never factoring in change in demographics, never factoring in racial laws, never factoring in the obvious mixed Capoid which suggests they were ostracized more than "accepted and mixed with happily and freely in a rainbow nation of love", and never factoring in genetic samples in order to support his theory, he simply guessed based on 7% of the allotted amount of people having mixed wayyy back then. Such crackpot rubbish could only be perpetuated by fools and liars. Which is why this asshole's work is hailed on the ANC website, him right along with his Communist comrades, who sought to distort history in order to topple the Apartheid Government, and give to the non-White what they "built". As far as your pictures are concerned, I frankly do not care. Last edited by Karl Von Clausewitz!; August 24th, 2009 at 12:39 PM. |
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Much racial mixture has thus occurred over the generations, between the Europeans, Indians, Malays, various Bantu tribes, along with indigenous Khoi and San. Photo Below: Picture of the “Cape coloured children in Bonteheuwel township (Cape Town, South Africa). Urbanized South Africans who have significant admixture of British, Dutch, and Indian (from India) blood. The “coloreds” constitute about 10% of the population of South Africa. |
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In South Africa, a large White population has existed since the 1600s, when Europeans first started settling that country. Over the 400 years since, the proximity of so many different races has inevitably led to a degree of interbreeding. Above: Sandra Laing and her parents. With no immediately obvious sign of Non-white ancestry, the particular combination of her parent's genes triggered the Mendelian effect of recombining a Non-white gene string, long hidden in the family, producing the very obvious mixed racial type. Sandra Laing was born in 1955 in Piet Retief, a conservative small town in what was then Apartheid South Africa. Her Afrikaans-speaking parents were classified White, as were her two brothers, and they all appeared on the face of things, to be White. However, when Sandra was born, her skin was noticeably darker, and became more so as the years passed. Her hair texture and features had become so obviously “colored” or mixed race by the time she went to school that she was forced to leave the White school systems and enter that set aside for non-Whites. The Sandra Laing case remains as one of the most striking examples of recessive alleles finally having recombined after several generations, and once again forming an individual reflective of racial mixing which occurred several generations previously. http://www.white-history.com/mendel.htm http://africanhistory.about.com/od/s...ikanerGene.htm http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2007/07...afrikaner.html http://www.geocities.com/kempcountrymen/afrikaner1.htm |
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The same way I suppose this is explained :
W.E. DU BOIS - "BLACK" AMERICAN ACTIVIST W.E. du Bois (1868-1963), was an African American activist who conducted the initial research on the Black experience in the United States. His work paved the way for the civil rights, Pan-African, and Black Power movements in the United States. He coined the phrase "Black Power" and who is still today highly regarded in Black American circles. Yet Du Bois himself , as can be seen from his picture (left) was clearly another example of the Mendelian Laws of Inheritance at work: and was, on the face of it, not "Black" at all. In his particular case, the recessive "White" alleles combined in his parents to produce a particularly White-looking individual. If you somehow find the urge which I am sure you will, to ask me "how do I explain this" yet again, or to paste another example of mixing in the Afrikaner people, feel free to read my post you quoted above. And continue to read it until it finally sinks into your numskull. Never have I said there was NO mixing to speak of, never have I said that there was NO instance of any one person appearing white but carrying non-White markers, and never have I said that the racial classification imposed was so excellent as to miraculously figure out those particular individuals are not European and would produce a non-White child. What I said plain and simply and what you fail to understand is that it's useless to categorically assume each and every Afrikaner is part non-White based on a singular example, and on the findings of a Communist doctor who never took any samples to support his thesis, guesstimated the percentiles, took into no account the influx of immigration from Europe into Southern Africa after the founding effect ended, and never took into account the vast amount of mixed individuals (which you so eagerly presented us as proof of the fact that they had not categorically intermixed with them). Should I take Du Bois as an example that every American is some parts black and some parts Indian? Should we examine the Australian and the New Zealander as well? You and your pseudo-Guentherian studies are playing with fire here, kaffertjie. By the way, your sources contradict one another. Kemp says 7% of people who CLAIM to be Afrikaner are non-White. The second uses the findings of the crackpot I demonstrated to have used questionable methods, and claims every one has 7% non-White blood, and the individual's (Jaco) he admits that his own findings do not represent that of the Afrikaner but merely himself. He continues to state : I am not aware that this estimate has been validated for any other Afrikaner individual, but it will be interesting if this can be confirmed for more Afrikaners. Presently, most white and black South Africans are equally incredulous at the prospect that Afrikaners have such a rich genetic heritage. Hopefully, with time all South Africans will celebrate the fact that Afrikaners are, and continue to be, a proudly south African concoction. And there we get at the crux of it, "rainbow nation" bullshit. It's the same rubbish we saw when the out of Africa theory was the fad, thousands of people were shown to have "non-White ancestry" in order to perpetuate the now defunct "Out of Afreaka Theory". And the fourth one uses the same crackpot the second one uses, why not simply quote the ANC Government website as a fifth? who also uses this same crackpot. There are many biologists in this country who find Heese' work questionable, that some try today to claim non-White ancestry like the American claims non-White ancestry is not in the slightest bit scientific studies. And for you to perpetuate it as though it is, speaks poorly of yourself. Last edited by Karl Von Clausewitz!; August 25th, 2009 at 06:26 AM. |
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Should we hold the Boer to a different standard here, Kaffertjie? Or are you implying that I am a "jew" while citing the article that shows 80,000 jews were in this country? Sorry to disappoint you, "holland" but I'm not one of your kin. Last edited by Karl Von Clausewitz!; August 25th, 2009 at 09:41 AM. |
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A number of non-professing Jews were among the first settlers of Cape Town in 1652, despite restrictions against the immigration of non-Christians. Religious freedom was granted by the Dutch colony in 1803. Many Yiddish words have entered the Afrikaans language as Yiddish-speaking South African Jews assimilated into the community, and the languages cross-pollinated each other. Sammy Marks, a Lithuanian born Jew, who came to South Africa from England in 1868, amassed a fortune from diamond, coal and gold mining and from liquor distilling, and became a trusted friend and advisor of President Kruger of the Transvaal. Specially since the discoveries of gold and diamonds, Jews love shinning objects.Harry Oppenheimer (1908-2000) (born Jewish but converted to Anglicanism upon his marriage), the richest man in South Africa and the arch-capitalist chairman of the De Beers and Anglo American corporations. Some Jews also settled among and identified with the rural white Afrikaans-speaking population; these persons became known as Boerejode (Boer Jews). A measure of intermarriage also occurred and was generally accepted. Jews fought on both sides during the Second Anglo-Boer War (1899-1902). Some of the most notable fights during the three years' Boer war — such as the Gun Hill incident before the Siege of Ladysmith — involved Jewish soldiers like Major Karri Davies. Nearly 2,800 Jews fought on the British side and the London Spectator counted that 125 were killed. (Jewish Encyclopedia). Around 300 Jews served among the Boers during the second Boer War and were known as Boerjode. When the Afrikaner-dominated National Party came to power in 1948 it did not adopt an anti-Jewish policy. In fact, during that year, the modern State of Israel was created, and the Afrikaners identified with Israel. In 1953 South Africa's Prime Minister, D. F. Malan, became the first foreign head of government to visit Israel though the trip was a "private visit" rather than an official state visit. This began a long history of cooperation between Israel and South Africa on many levels. The proudly Zionistic South African Jewish community, through such bodies as the South African Zionist Federation and a number of publications, maintained a cordial relationship with the South African government even though it objected to the policies of Apartheid being enacted. South Africa's Jews were permitted to collect huge sums of money to be sent on as official aid to Israel, in spite of strict exchange-control regulations. Per capita, South African Jews were reputedly the most philanthropic Zionists abroad. During the 1980's Harry Schwarz, a prominent Jewish anti-Apartheid politician engaged in private meetings with Israeli Prime Minister's Shimon Peres and Yitzhak Shamir and was assured by them that Jews in South Africa would not become isolated and links with Israel would be maintained. Quote:
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Although the Jewish community peaked in the 1970s, about 70,000 mostly nominally Orthodox, remain in South Africa. Despite low intermarriage rates, approximately 1,800 Jews leave the country for economic reasons every year, mainly to Israel, Australia, Canada and the United States. The Jewish community in South Africa is currently the largest in Africa, and, although shrinking due to emigration, it remains one of the most nominally Orthodox communities in the world. The South African Jewish Community is widely reputed to be among the most vibrant diaspora communities in terms of Jewish communal and religious life. Although the numbers have reduced over the last three decades, the community continues to thrive. A high crime rate in South Africa and various other factors are the driving force behind emigration. The community has remarkable support structures and is distinctly self sufficient. Levels of anti-semitism in South Africa are among the lowest in the world. The community has become more observant and in Johannesburg, the largest centre of Jewish life, with 66 000 Jews, there is a high number and density of Kosher restaurants and religious centres. In politics, the Jewish community continues to have influence, particularly in leadership roles. Helen Zille, the mayor of Cape Town and leader of the Democratic Alliance South Africa's main opposition party, is from a Jewish background. Her parents, who are both half-Jewish immigrants, fled from Europe to South Africa during the Second World War. As leader of the party, she is also the successor of Tony Leon, who also has a Jewish background and led the opposition party between 1994-2007. I am not disapointed "Clausewitz" is a Jewish name. |
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Wherever there is money to be made, Jews will be there to make it, I fail to see what it is you're trying to prove here, clown. Quote:
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Your poor attempt at appearing well read failed. You summed up in google sessions what I have said before and never intended on hiding, your revelation is a waste of bandwidth space. Your country and every Western Society known to man is guilty to an equal degree of fraternizing with the Jews, I dare say, far more than the Boer people. Quote:
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You are arguing an obvious non-sequitur you absolute twit. Incidentally arguing Clausewitz is a jewish name is simply hilarious and shows you to be the howling buffoon that you are. Go on tell me where it is listed as such or do a little intellectial doggy-paddle and try and explain why you thought Karl von Clausewitz was Karl's actual name and didn't know about the famous German military author of that name.
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Clausewitz is a patronymic based on an ancestor's first name, usually from a father's first name. It can be German of Polish origin or Polish Jewish or even German Jew of Polish origin. Ending -itz is also typical for Slavic names which were changed into german or yiddish. About the Claus name the earliest of all recordings are to be found in German charters and registers of the medieval period. These include examples such as Henricus Claus of Eblingen in 1323, Wolframus Klusner of Goddelau in 1398, and Tobias Clausnitzer of Thun, christened there in 1619. |
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Clausewitz is a typical Old Prussian last name, it's not remotely Polish in origin. While it is true that it's origin is from Baltic Slavic people, 600 years of German mass immigration, Germanization of the people...it's hardly wise to call it him a "Slav" or a "Slavic Jew" based on his last name alone. I do find it ironic that you think a last name surpasses all biological knowledge of a person, given the dubious nature of your own. Quote:
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if your last name has 'witz' in it then you're a kike.
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The Port of the Gauls currently has several nationalities living there. No one of them can lay claim to national exclusiveness. It is simply a country of different tribes, as major ocean ports often become.
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Percy isn't an Afrikaner. |
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Saying that Portugal had a race of poets and explorers, was civilized, imaginative, intelligent, and daring people it is a bit exagerated it was like that in the capital because of the royal court and because of the main harbour of the country not in the whole country which was mostly rural until the XIX century ... The only thing that the United States had in common with Portugal in the 16th century was a big amount of Jewish capitalists financing the discoveries that is why the wealth and power was in Portugal. Quote:
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This is amazing. I had never heard about this negro factor in portugal before. It explains a lot of things
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