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Old November 6th, 2017 #41
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2. Start making local contacts with friends, family, neighbors, co-workers, and even the strangers you meet regularly in your daily life. It can be done, it takes patience, politeness, and most of all, common sense.
 
Old November 6th, 2017 #42
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I think Confederate colors are too high spirited. I really like that white field with black X. I don't know if that's historical flag or not, but something akin to that. Black and white are serious. Heavy. Not precisely muted, but no rah-rah in them, which I think is good under current circumstances. We aren't trying for something universal backed God and cheerleaders, but are serious men, like garbagemen, out to take out the trash and reestablish cleanliness and order. Fuck christian univeralism, we're the white bollocks.
 
Old November 6th, 2017 #43
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Number one selling item at the second hand store down the road. For most people, the Confederate flag has become a symbol of resistance. Anyone remember seeing a news photo of a Confederate flag flying in the background as people were tearing down the Berlin wall?

The thread title is 'what we should be doing now?'

Skimming through, I see the discussion is what flag we should wave and how we should dress. While some say we should look tough so others will not mess with us.

Trust me, no is going to mess with any of you, they're too busy laughing.

What we should do:

1: Dissolve all organizations. Not one white nationalist organization has held a rally that has outnumbered a Detroit nigger family reunion in at least 20 years. Anyone remember the definition of insanity?
So I guess it is safe to say that you are no longer wearing the Swastika and SS regalia in public.

As far as rallies and numbers go, I am still waiting for the proof of this 5000 strong pro-White rally you claim happened less than ten years ago in Madisonville, Tennessee.

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Less than ten years ago just north of Madisonville, less than a three hour drive from Shelbyville, there was a rally attended by over 5,000 white men.
 
Old November 6th, 2017 #44
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The Southern Nationalist Flag, or Black Cross, was designed by Southern activists in Augusta, Georgia in the summer of 2013. It feautures a St. Andrew’s Cross (the black “X”), the basis for several of our ancestral flags in the British Isles, a few State flags in Dixie (Alabama, Mississippi, Florida and the former flag of Georgia) as well as the Confederate Battle Flag. It has since been adopted by much of the Southern Nationalist movement and has been used at events, rallies and protests across the South. Where ever people are at the vanguard of advancing Southern interests you will likely see Southern Nationalist Flags.


 
Old November 6th, 2017 #45
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What we should be doing now:

1) create a White council of distinguished elders, maybe 5 or 11
--council agrees we are pro-white sovereign nations, jews are our enemy
--council picks basic flag/symbols and basic dress acceptable any rally

2) develop White curriculum K-post-Phd
--start with anti-Frankfurt sexual training kit: facts about sex. where your individual behavior meets society, and why our enemy promotes what it does

3) Roof crew - self-chosen undergrounders who kill our enemy, focusing on softest targets (cuck media and pols - the goyim who serve the jews) among the tyrannical antiWhites, then expanding to jews as they gain expertise

4) anonymous poster activism - like 4chan It's Okay to be White. promote, support

5) White Liberation Army - ex-military leaders ideally. defends speakers. allows demos in hostile areas where speakers might address, for example, hush crimes

6) from the army evolves formal political party with inner core of lawyers/writers/speakers (White Articulators)

There can be work to help such as Trump or within the formal electoral system as now exists, but always with the understanding White Future Is Not Up For Vote. Our mission is not winning elections but an all-White, indepedent, sovereign nation.

7) support mechanism. this coordinates mainly the funding, secondarily any paper needs the party or military has. the public is directed to these people to become formal supporters, in whichever way
 
Old November 6th, 2017 #46
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What we should be doing now:

1) create a White council of distinguished elders, maybe 5 or 11
--council agrees we are pro-white sovereign nations, jews are our enemy
--council picks basic flag/symbols and basic dress acceptable any rally

2) develop White curriculum K-post-Phd
--start with anti-Frankfurt sexual training kit: facts about sex. where your individual behavior meets society, and why our enemy promotes what it does

3) Roof crew - self-chosen undergrounders who kill our enemy, focusing on softest targets (cuck media and pols - the goyim who serve the jews) among the tyrannical antiWhites, then expanding to jews as they gain expertise

4) anonymous poster activism - like 4chan It's Okay to be White. promote, support

5) White Liberation Army - ex-military leaders ideally. defends speakers. allows demos in hostile areas where speakers might address, for example, hush crimes

6) from the army evolves formal political party with inner core of lawyers/writers/speakers (White Articulators)

There can be work to help such as Trump or within the formal electoral system as now exists, but always with the understanding White Future Is Not Up For Vote. Our mission is not winning elections but an all-White, indepedent, sovereign nation.

7) support mechanism. this coordinates mainly the funding, secondarily any paper needs the party or military has. the public is directed to these people to become formal supporters, in whichever way
This sounds a lot like what was happening in the Turner Diaries and Hunter. What basically developed in both was two entities-one underground doing the illegal, dirty work of assassinations and such and the other was above ground doing the legal work that was necessary. It sounds like a good plan.
 
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This sounds a lot like what was happening in the Turner Diaries and Hunter. What basically developed in both was two entities-one underground doing the illegal, dirty work of assassinations and such and the other was above ground doing the legal work that was necessary. It sounds like a good plan.
An excellent plan to get white nationalists labeled as domestic terrorists, isn't that ADL's and the SPLC's wet dream?

The Turner Diaries and Hunter are nothing more than novels written by Dr. William Pierce as an exercise in improving his writing and a diversion from his other activities. Never were these books a blueprint for any type of revolutionary struggle.

Listen up numbnuts, I lived up on the Land and read all of the internal memos and pamphlets for Dr. Pierce's original Cosmotheist Community Church. Nothing to do with violence or creating a revolutionary struggle, instead Dr. Pierce was more focused on creating an all white community of like minded racialists, grounded in the reality of today, instead of speculation of what the future may hold for them.

Hunter and the Turner Diaries never should have been written.
 
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The SPLC are terrorists. I believe whites should fight back. The SPLC had prior knowledge of OKC bombing and stood by. Because they wanted it to happen. The SPLC has also put together a wink-wink hit list that includes all prominent White advocates.

Should whites fight back? Of course we should.
 
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Notice also the (((SPLC))) believe in guilt by association. By their own principles, they should all be in jail for murders committed by people using their implicit hit lists.
 
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But we'll leave that alone. This thread is for what Whites should do, and anyone is free to leave his ideas.
 
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The flag is good (other thread).

All is good, but I don't like no.3. No. 3 is what our CIA is right now, I know our Govt. kills people right now, yes, but that sucks. I guess it would be par for the course if one is honest in establishing a system that overthrows another, but it definitely has the 'recoil' effect for people if they're honest.

Re another thing: the cult-y shit where something is called 'The Land' in all caps, or the religion shit (Church of the Flying Aryan Subgenius for tax evasion purposes), or the ridiculous level of reverence for mortals: these are third world things.

PBUH and similar 'Hail Marys' should go. Certain important things are what matter. You will always have 'sub-groups' who share some specific thing they are working on, so there is nothing wrong with groups at all---but people who invented near everything useful should get off the hocus pocus mentality and do 'real', stop worshiping individuals (respect is not the same thing as worship).

...In future, if we claim something for ourselves and are not all murdered, it would be nice to have a purdier flag. This one is good for a 'stamp out' or 'take out the trash/we mean business' mentality.

Once we have something of our own, some flowers on the background or something for the wimmun.
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An excellent plan to get white nationalists labeled as domestic terrorists, isn't that ADL's and the SPLC's wet dream?

The Turner Diaries and Hunter are nothing more than novels written by Dr. William Pierce as an exercise in improving his writing and a diversion from his other activities. Never were these books a blueprint for any type of revolutionary struggle.

Listen up numbnuts, I lived up on the Land and read all of the internal memos and pamphlets for Dr. Pierce's original Cosmotheist Community Church. Nothing to do with violence or creating a revolutionary struggle, instead Dr. Pierce was more focused on creating an all white community of like minded racialists, grounded in the reality of today, instead of speculation of what the future may hold for them.

Hunter and the Turner Diaries never should have been written.
You should have told that to Dr. Pierce when he was alive. Besides, Pierce accurately predicted what was going to happen and it IS happening around us, if you would bother to take a break from that reality of today you say you live in and look the fuck around. Perhaps he did not intend these books as any kind of blueprint, but what he wrote IS happening. We need every kind of activity to save our race, even ones as unpleasant as assassination. Creating all-White communities is also one of those needed activities.

BTW, you still have not answered my question, dickhead. If you do not care to answer it then say so like a man. Stop punking out like a nigger.

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A large subset of the “AltRight” or whatever you wish to call it has pivoted recently, coalescing into agreement on an “American Nationalist” vision for White Nationalism. This essay is in keeping with their request that there be defined a vivid distinction in the public mind between themselves and National Socialists like ourselves. This isn’t the latest salvo in an ongoing argument between two camps. We agree entirely to their terms and conditions, gladly forfeit the “AltRight” label, and now exist as a separate and distinct movement, at their request. We are not American Nationalists, and we also believe it’s in everybody’s best interest that the alternatives are clarified.

“The bourgeoisie rules by intrigue, but it can have no foothold in my movement because we accept no Jews or Jewish accomplices into our Party.”

— Adolf Hitler

The growth of the AltRight has been an amazing phenomenon over the past several years. One of the problems of this rapid growth, however, is the amount of people who are coming forward with ideas and strategies that they think are new, but in fact have been tried again and again over the years. The ghost of American nationalism has long been with the nationalist movement in the United States and it once again is raising itself from the grave to haunt a new generation of activists.

Other elements of the AltRight are offering us ideologically and historically incoherent messages such as “Abraham Lincoln was an American Hitler,” and “We just need to take the American flag from conservatives,” but these messages are doomed to fail, for both ideological and historical reasons. We are fighters first and intellectuals second, but a complete abdication of a movement leader’s duty to learn about where nationalism has already been and why will assuredly doom him to repeat the well-documented mistakes.

One of the most important things for us as White Nationalists to remember above all is something simple: America is already dead. If immigration was ended today, White folks would still become a minority within the next generation. Out of reported births, not taking into account likely millions of uncounted non-White births, America already has a non-White majority of children being born. Illegal immigrants, of whom the Republicans are happy to naturalize in some pathetic attempt to get further “border security,” make up AT LEAST 13 million people, but is likely closer to 20-30 million according to recent studies.

Pro-immigration website Migration Policy reports that,

“The U.S. immigrant population stood at more than 43.3 million, or 13.5 percent, of the total U.S. population of 321.4 million in 2015, according to American Community Survey (ACS) data. Between 2014 and 2015, the foreign-born population increased by 899,000, or 2.1 percent, a slower growth rate compared to 2.5 percent between 2013 and 2014. According to the 2016 Current Population Survey (CPS), immigrants and their U.S.-born children now number approximately 84.3 million people, or 27 percent of the overall U.S. population.”



These are the official numbers. The reality is even worse.

When one accounts for the Black population (roughly 13-14% of the American population), the illegal immigrant population, and then the legal immigrant population and their children; we’re already on a razor’s edge of minority status. The ship has already taken on too much water, and is guaranteed to sink. White Americans are the demographic population that actually pays in more that we take out in regards to taxes, while the other ethnic populations take out more than they put in, in most cases. As the White population ages and dies off, especially the Baby Boomers, the demographic numbers will rapidly flip. The White demographic numbers are being artificially held up by aging Boomers living in their gated subdivisions and old folks homes, and Tim Wise is right about one thing, …tick, …tock, …a couple White Boomers just died while you were skimming this blog post.

With all of these demographic shifts, one might assume that “Hey, we’re still half the country, we can have real power!” But that assertion’s baseless. When Texas tips, and it will, there will be another seismic shift in American politics toward more overtly anti-White policies, with more immigrant-friendly policies which will add jerk to the acceleration of the demographic crisis.

The bulwark of the Republican Party has long been Texas. Texas is the second largest American State in regards to population, but it already is too far gone. Republicans must win Texas in order to have any chance of a Presidential victory, but Whites in Texas are already a minority at approximately 45% of the population. Non-White births in Texas account for 65% of births, and of course we have the illegal immigrant population that is not counted in these statistics.

When Texas goes Democrat–not if, …when–there will be no road to victory for the Republican Party. When the Republicans lose Texas, that will mean that the Presidency, then the Supreme Court, then the Senate, will all go Democrat; where the best we can hope for is a Hillary Clinton, no longer our worst nightmare. North Carolina, the home of the largest Klan chapter in the 1960s and the Tar Heel State where my ancestors came from and fought for, has also been a long-held Republican area. North Carolina is expected to flip Democrat within a decade or so, a demonstration of how demographic and social changes are turning the Solid South into the multicultural cesspit of the “New South.”

Hillary Clinton came within three points of taking North Carolina, won Virginia (the former home of Robert E. Lee and the Confederate government), and was within five points of Trump in Georgia. The American Republic, long since on life support, is already over. White people will not have an ability to control the future of the American Empire. We can either get off the sinking ship or we can go down with it, and for the sake of my children, I know what option I choose.

One of the points brought up by American nationalists is that by using symbols of Americana we can appeal to average everyday people. The growth of nationalist sentiment among the youth of the previous few years shows the exact opposite of this. And capitalism is certainly a no-go for the generation which has only known this pathetic, soul-sucking “service economy.” We didn’t create the Alt-Right by waving American flags. We made it by saying that separate from conservatism and Americana, we are a distinct people, with a distinct history, and our own culture and symbols.

Regardless of what America does, with the insane concept of “magic dirt” baptizing a Haitian into being an American, and its endless warmongering and active policies of our demographic displacement; the Alt-Right was free of this, instead setting our own course forward. This broke us free from reactionary politics, and put us on a path of revolutionary politics. And even if you think you’re winking and nodding at me while secretly being a true radical, that flag you’re waving is going to attract large crowds of reactionary losers in search of low-risk, confrontation-free, philo-semitic, “Democrats are the real racists” solutions.

If you want bulls to charge toward you, wave a red flag. If you want cucks to charge toward you, wave an American flag.

The unity White Nationalists enjoyed on the streets of Charlottesville has been discarded in favor of unity with civic nationalist reactionaries who want to “bring Americans together” and incrementally reform the federal government from within its pre-existing institutions to approximate a political order which depended entirely on a demographic, geopolitical, and economic context which has completely vanished. The idea of taking the American flag as a symbol of American National Socialism is contrary to the founding principles of the nation, and our historical experience. While our founders may have been racialists by our modern standards, they believed above all in the Enlightenment era principles which soon culminated in the French Revolutionary bloodbath. The Enlightenment entered the ideas of “Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité” into the consciousness of Europeans.

Instead of having a sovereign leader of the nation, as is tradition in both European and non-European societies, the Enlightenment gave us the principle that there should be a new elite. Instead of an aristocracy ground in blood, soil, and history; the democratic model ensured that inevitably America would be run for and by the merchant class, Jewish and Gentile alike. Corneliu Codreanu spoke of the failure of democracy when he wrote,

“Democracy cannot wield authority, because it cannot enforce its decisions. A party cannot move against itself, against its members who engage in scandalous malfeasance, who rob and steal, because it is afraid of losing its members. Nor can it move against its adversaries, because in so doing it would risk exposure of its own wrongdoings and shady business.

Democracy serves big business. Because of the expensive, competitive character of the multiparty system, democracy requires ample funds. It therefore naturally becomes the servant of the big international Jewish financiers, who enslave her by paying her. In this manner, a nation’s fate is placed in the hands of a clique of bankers.”

Through basing the American system on a rebellion against hierarchical authority, either that of the religious institutions, tradition, or outright force; we ensured that those with money would inevitably become in charge of American politics. This was not an accident, for many of the founders of America were Freemasons, the Gentile lackeys to the Jewish power structure. Call it a conspiracy, but George Washington swore his oath of office on a Masonic edition of the Bible, and, excepting some populist hiccups here and there, has followed the Masonic principles and priorities ever since.

The abstraction of American Nationalism is also a fundamental failure versus the traditional, and National Socialist view, of a nation being born through blood and soil. While the founders may have limited immigration to “White persons of good moral character” originally, they had no definition on what that actually meant. The persecution of Irish, Italian, and even German settlers into the United States put forward the first question of “What is an American?”

Instead of clearly defining and sticking to a definition of an American being an Anglo-Saxon or a Celt, the line of “what is American” was allowed to shift over the generations. It would have been found laughable by the founders to think that a Han Chinese or a Guatemalan would one day be American, it also would have been laughable to tell them that a Russian would one day be an American. The “magic dirt” theory was a failure built into the American experience, by not originally and clearly defining who was a member of the national community.

We as National Socialists understand that there must clear definitions of who is and who is not a member of our People’s Community. We as Whites have taken our heritage from dozens of European nations to form, through ethno-genesis, our own unique culture, identity, and series of traditions. We are a people, a distinct people, but we are a people without a homeland of our own. We may have originated in England, Ireland, Italy, or Russia, but we’ve become Amerikaners, the primordial ethnogenetic soup from which an entirely new nation must be born in the wake of this failed “American” experiment.

America also fundamentally failed with its own principles within the first years of its founding. The Whiskey Rebellion of 1791 originated over the unfair taxation of farmers, that due to the climate and lack of transportation, would distill their crops into whiskey so it could be then traded for necessary supplies. The Federal government began taxing these farmers, in some cases to death, for distilling spirits, even though that was the only way that farmers could maintain the wealth they had created through backbreaking labor in the fields throughout the year.

The farmers on the frontier only had whiskey as a way to make a proper living, as transporting grain over the mountains would often lead to the grain rotting or was simply impossible. These taxes targeted small farmers for the benefit of larger landed aristocracy in the new nation, showing from the very beginning that Washington was under the boot heel of finance above all.

The farmers revolted against this tax, and George Washington marched soldiers against men, many of whom were Continental army veterans, to seize property and both kill and arrest those who were fighting for the basic ability to care for their families. The blood of Continental war veteran Major James McFarlane and others was proof that the new government was willing to kill even its own men, who fought for the stated of the revolution, in order to serve the money masters behind the revolution.

The financial crisis in America only ended after the First National Bank was established, a bank that had over 70% of its backers from international sources, including a strong influence from the Jewish Rothschild bankers, the same Jewish bankers who have long controlled the United Kingdom. The book, The Second Bank of the United States, identified that this control continued under the Second Bank of the United States when “Foreign holdings of the Second Bank of the United States grew from just under 30,000 shares in 1820 to over 84,000 shares in 1832. James de Rothschild of France was rumored to be a principal investor in the new central bank.”

The issue of using the old national flag versus one of the new revolutionary movement is not a new one. As with most things, our forebears struggled with these same issues. Adolf Hitler identified this in Mein Kampf when he wrote,

“As sacred and dear as the old and beautiful colors must be, especially when they were fresh and youthful, to every decent German who has fought for them and has seen the sacrifices of so many under those colors, that flag is not the symbol for a battle of the future.

[…] The old flag really was beautiful, but only for the old Empire, just as the Republic has chosen a new one that is suited to itself.
This was the reason why we National-Socialists could not consider raising the old flag as a symbolic expression of what we were working for. After all, we did not want to awaken the old-dead Empire, which was destroyed by its own faults. We wanted to build a new State.”

We are not trying to remake America; with its congenital failures of democracy, capitalism, Masonic Enlightenment, and Jewish influence. Instead, we are working to build a new nation for our people. It is time to retire the American flag, as it is time to retire America in general; and pick up the banner of revolutionary National Socialism.

You cannot go back in time, you cannot simply turn back the clock to the “good ol’ days” of whatever period best suits your worldview. We must be adults in this decision, and know that if we are to go anywhere, it is only through forward motion. While we maintain our traditions and our history, we cannot simply “Make America White Again” or fix the structural problems of having a republic as the very bedrock of the national political and social reality. We’re not going to confuse the flag waving reactionaries one step closer to our radical agenda, and we are only confusing ourselves with the American Nationalist misfire.

When I got involved in nationalism during my time in college, I remember the Americana. Most AltRight guys probably don’t remember that from the 1920s onward, the American White Nationalist scene was inherently American, calling for “100% Americanism” and using these same talking points being dredged up all over again. From the Second Klan of the twenties, the John Birch Society, to the Tea Party movement; we’ve done this already, we’ve tried to dog whistle, appeal to sentimental nostalgia of Americana, and it has utterly failed. American patriotism was far higher in the 1920s, 1960s, and 1990s than it is now; and if appealing to Americana didn’t work then, it certainly won’t work now, especially among the youth.

Everyone’s got the right to rehash the Second Klan, but TradWorker has its agenda firmly locked in place and will not falter or change course. From time to time, strategies and tactics must be updated. But our principles, priorities, and vision are set in stone. Our leadership is pioneer stock, and we’re not beholden to any bygone or foreign national vision. We are beholden to the vision of a post-American, post-colonial, National Socialist future for our Amerikaner people. We can embrace our pioneering history, our innovative spirit, our creativity, and our legendary industriousness without embracing that tired, tyrannical, and tacky symbol of our humiliation. And if you really want to press the matter, what’s more “American” than opposing your tyrannical government?

At its very best, America is a self-correcting problem.

Millennials and Generation Zyklon have never really experienced the association between the federal government and the White American identity that Boomers and Gen Xers often remember from their youth. For them, it has always been an evil warmongering empire run by exotic globalist technocrats that glorifies our subjugation and takes pleasure in spitting upon us. From sending many of us off in imperialist pursuits for Zionist interests, to leaving us a lower standard of living than our parents, to denying many of us basic access to healthcare or First World infrastructure, we didn’t leave America, America left us. We have never had a stake in America the way that a Boomer or older generations might have known it. We have no sentimental attachment to the fifty star Masonic dishrag. That flag to us only represents our demographic, social, and economic displacement. We identify with our tribe, not this Great Satan. We desire something greater than America could ever be.

For decades, that flag has not only been grinding away at its founding stock at home, but grinding through millions of civilians, women, and children in endless colonial wars of resource extraction and Zionist servility around the world. The world’s been waiting a very long time for a sign that the folk of this nation don’t actually stand in solidarity with its war crimes, its brutal starvation sanctions, its regime changes, its color revolutions, and now its robotic flying death drones.

To quote the article CON/CUCKSERVATIVE, REACTIONARY, REVOLUTIONARY from Iron March’s zine Rope Culture on this very topic,

“This is something that the German thinker Ernst Niekisch had spoken of after Germany’s defeat in the First World War, describing the conflict between the generations, namely the generation of old men who lost the Empire and the young generation who never got to know the Empire of their ancestors:

‘These young hearts have never been impressed and inspired directly by the proud grandeur of their Fatherland. Political anger, social poverty, economic decline – that is what is self-evident to them, always in their face, their personal experience. Prewar Germany was nothing more than historical memory, akin to the memory of the Empire of Otto I, Frederick Barbarossa, with the memory of the great and incomparable state of Prussian King Friedrich.

But if the old generation were to chide the youth for such “historical” viewpoint of Bismarck’s empire, it might have received a reply in the form of bold and impertinent questions: Wasn’t the fate of this empire in your hands? Were you not the ones who lost this empire in the first place? How do you have the audacity to still so arrogantly claim your own importance on the political scene?’”

We in the Traditionalist Worker Party understand that we cannot be either racist liberals or racist conservatives. If we lived in an all White America under either conservative or liberal principles, we would still be marching and fighting for a National Socialist future. Conservatism and liberalism mean the eventual death of our folk, our values, and our traditions. It isn’t enough to want to stand in line at an all White Starbucks on the way to your corporate wage slavery to pay off your usurious mortgage while your community disintegrates into radical materialism and nihilism; we as National Socialists call for both physical and spiritual revolution, something totally alien to the liberal or the conservative.

The time now is for us to raise the flag of a new nation, the one we will build with our sacrifice, labor, and martyrdom. The flag of the Masonic Empire is one that should be left in the dustbin of history, because if this flag and the values it represents are allowed to continue waving, it will be the death of us. Reject the siren song of “American Nationalism,” and be a revolutionary National Socialist, the only path forward for victory!

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Civil War: Mass Society, Mass Murder, and Sutherland Springs
November 6, 2017

Sometimes it’s a white guy. Sometimes it’s a Muslim guy. Sometimes it’s a black guy. Sometimes it’s a leftist. Sometimes it’s a right-winger. This guy in Sutherland Springs looks like a left-leaning degenerate dirtbag. The statistics on these things, in aggregate, confirm my right-wing nationalist perspective. But that’s beside the point.

I WANT OUT

With the exception of the Islamic terrorists who are straightforward military actors simply bringing our Jewish wars abroad back home to our doorstep, the real common thread of all these mass attacks is a neurotic country where nobody knows anybody, nobody has anything in common, nobody likes anybody else, everybody is alienated, and we’re all wrapped up like feral cats in a potato sack in a shared “mass society” and failed “American” political experiment.

A third of these hostile strangers are hopped up on illegal drugs. A third of these hostile strangers are hopped up on even more potent and dangerous prescription drugs. And the rest of them are off their meds.

I want out of this diseased, degenerate, and lethally dangerous mass society.

In the build up to war, it’s necessary to try to dehumanize the enemy, to convince you that he’s evil, stupid, malignant, …and not truly human like you are. As America’s World War II machine geared up, Hollywood’s Looney Tunes animation factory went from churning out lovable slapstick classic cartoons to producing hilariously racist depictions of Japanese people as a race of sinister insect-like villains. Germans were a bit harder to dehumanize, since they’re pretty much America’s founding racial stock, so the cartoons depicted them as the zombified victims of a mind virus of “Nazism.”

Regardless of the ethics or accuracy of dehumanization, it’s one of those necessary things you need to do before you send one group of people to try to go kill another one. But what’s happening in America on a mass scale is a sort of turning in on itself of this phenomenon, where Americans are coming to dehumanize and despise their own countrymen as a popular and widespread phenomenon. To claim that there’s no sense of fellow feeling among Americans would be an understatement. The other cars on the road aren’t neighbors, friends, and fellow countrymen, but a throbbing mass of evil and stupid wretches.

Bowling Alone leads simply and directly to mass murder as cathartic entertainment. It’s what we’ve just seen in Sutherland Springs, what we saw in Vegas a month beforehand, and what we’ll keep seeing until we abandon the American experiment in consumerist, globalist mass society once and for all. It’s a behavioral sink where our own neighbors and countrymen matter no more than us than animals. What typical American wouldn’t rather shoot his neighbor than shoot his dog? These people who snap are sick and I’m not making excuses for them. But there’s a stifling, alienating pressure weighing down on all Americans produceing the pressure to snap.

Ignoring the Islamic radicals, the only common pattern you’ll find is that these killers tend to belong to alienated mass society rather than cohesive communities of some kind. Sometimes they’re immigrants who’ve arrived here and failed to make themselves at home in this toxic new land with all of the money and “opportunity” and none of the social ties neurotypical humans actually need more than mere wealth. Sometimes they’re white guys, forgotten and left behind in some relative’s basement or subletting some room in some contemptible stranger’s dark and sad little apartment. Sometimes they’re black guys. Trust me, I believe in racial differences. But with one lone exception, there is no type of human who actually seeks out and would actually wish for and thrive within a world where nobody knows, trusts, or likes his neighbor.

A new and strange sort of civil war is already underway, and these are shots fired in a very real war. It has yet to receive a name because nobody has yet fathomed a war of this nature. Unlike our first American Civil War where you had two well-organized and well-defined belligerents squaring up on the battlefield, this second American Civil War is a massively disorganized, ill-defined neo-Hobbesian war of all against all. We’ve all been conditioned to varying degrees to dehumanize and despise our fellow Americans, and civic nationalist or “patriotic” attempts to encourage us to all get along will only reinforce the enmity, since the tribal ties that bind have long since degraded and eroded away.

We at TradWorker don’t know how it’s all going to end. But what we do know is that new neo-tribal networks can be developed which can save individuals at the local, grassroots level. What’s needful are local solutions to the globalist problem, because there is no mass solution to the problems of mass society. We can start coming together and working toward communities where we do know, like, and trust one another again. Those who can work toward developing new communities from within the mass capable of overcoming the problem of alienation and isolation will thrive and survive to arrive at whatever comes after America. Those who remain committed to this American experiment–either willfully or ignorantly–will continue to sink into the snake pit.

School and church mass shootings are nothing new. Sometimes people just snap. VDare has identified Immigrant Mass Murder Syndrome, but all Americans, including founding stock White Americans, are rapidly becoming foreigners and strangers in this country. Often research on these mass murderers is difficult since the killers had no close friends, few if any family members in contact, and no impact whatsoever on their neighbors and communities. Nobody even knew these souls existed until they flipped out and took several innocent souls with them. Then everybody starts looking for reasons and solutions. The reason is alienated mass society and the solution is a wholesale, radical rejection of this consumer capitalist globalist mass society in favor of new communities.
 
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Matt Parrot:

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Regardless of the ethics or accuracy of dehumanization, it’s one of those necessary things you need to do before you send one group of people to try to go kill another one.
You lost your fucking mind Matt Parrot?

Who's the "you" that's going to send people to kill others - you?

Who are the others? The race mixing slut one of your crew repeatedly slugged in the head after the Shelbyville rally? Great optics there, bonehead.


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An excellent plan to get white nationalists labeled as domestic terrorists, isn't that ADL's and the SPLC's wet dream?
I saw the following article article coming from a mile away:

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/...kill-our-enemy

Ok, numbnuts, let's start from the top,

What we should do?

1. Disband all white nationalist organizations.

America is a very large country made up of several different regions. If we are going to seriously turn things around, we will have to start at the local level, and build from there.

Starting a national organization, then look for local leaders does not work. Even the National Alliance, with a $800,000.00 war chest, couldn't get 2,000 paying members and supporters any given month after 20 years with Dr. Pierce. And neither will Parrot, Anglin, or Wallace.

Time to try something else.
 
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Time to try something else.
You are big on mouth and small on suggestions. What, oh what, Herr DILDOway, will get 5000 White men to a rally? Inquiring VNNers want to know.
 
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I don't understand why Anglin thinks he needs a change of branding. His site is so successful that it set new precedents: it was banned at the registrar level, causing the CEO and founder of GoDaddy, the largest registrar in probably the world, to step down following the aftermath. I'm not sure how a change of branding, along with appeals to the middle class, can possibly make his site more successful, nor why those appeals are even desirable. However, his book club idea is spot on. "Step 2" of his master plan should be to expand out-reach via the book clubs, while using his successful website to drive the campaign. Once again, how does a change of branding aide him in this?
 
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I agree with one of the posts and pictures advocating secession. Get past trying to save America. As Dr. Pierce once said: "Some people think that a Pat Buchanan or a Rush Limbaugh is going to come along and save America. Forget about trying to save America. America is finished!". Yes, he really did say that.

Let's start agreeing with the anti-Whites. They don't like us and we don't like them. So let's just separate. Everyone gets what they want. How about a third political party? The Separatist Party.

And let's get past the who is White bullshit. We can have our own "big tent". Any and all European Americans. If you say you're White, you're White.
 
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I agree with one of the posts and pictures advocating secession. Get past trying to save America. As Dr. Pierce once said: "Some people think that a Pat Buchanan or a Rush Limbaugh is going to come along and save America. Forget about trying to save America. America is finished!". Yes, he really did say that.

Let's start agreeing with the anti-Whites. They don't like us and we don't like them. So let's just separate. Everyone gets what they want. How about a third political party? The Separatist Party.

And let's get past the who is White bullshit. We can have our own "big tent". Any and all European Americans. If you say you're White, you're White.
One problem with the last part: there are folks who admire white culture and will want in the tent who are not White, so there would have to be a line drawn somewhere.

"No, Julio, I don't care if you are 1/4 White and listen to Toby Keith, you go join the Reconquista movement--to Aztlan!"

Yet another side-effect of race mixing that is overlooked, mental health of people who identify with what they clearly know is their 'better half', the White half, and they know their brown 'bruthas' hate them due to their superior genetics...yet cannot be fully White. It's an odd conundrum, and totally wrong to encourage more of it.

I do agree on any who are truly European being welcome, of course. Ethnic diversity within our own 'genome', we would have ethnic groups that ban together separately in likelihood, as always, but an overall big tent of 'European' being the criteria for entry.
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I agree with one of the posts and pictures advocating secession. Get past trying to save America. As Dr. Pierce once said: "Some people think that a Pat Buchanan or a Rush Limbaugh is going to come along and save America. Forget about trying to save America. America is finished!". Yes, he really did say that.

Let's start agreeing with the anti-Whites. They don't like us and we don't like them. So let's just separate. Everyone gets what they want. How about a third political party? The Separatist Party.

And let's get past the who is White bullshit. We can have our own "big tent". Any and all European Americans. If you say you're White, you're White.
How do the jews feel about letting whites secede? No one cares what niggers want, they're not the ones running the show. They are a crowbar wielded by the actual rulers.
 
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